any ever try them for the 02-03 max...fitment?...hp gains?...overall quality...their 877$ for headers and ypipe....seem good to me lol

 

Not worth it. You can cattmans for the same price which are the best your buy or OBX's off of cheapbay for half the price.

 

OBX FTW... $400

 

Ima get them too.

 

Stillen.... HAH! LMAO! I knew I had to read this as soon as I saw the title. They still make those? I guess there are some poor souls out there that still buy them since they're still available. "God bless their souls." Anyway maximadude do yourself a favor and try either Cattman or OBX. Or your gonna want to kick yourself in the rear. Better yet take a pic of the Cattman and OBX and compare the structural quality to Stillen. Then try to find someone with the Stillen and ask them how they like them. Oh. Good luck with that. I have OBX and I like them. If I had the extra money then I would have bought Cattman. Just cause its Stillen doesn't mean its the best in the world.

 

well i have stillen catback, and if i knew then what i know now, i woulda gotten greddy from ebay., stillen headers look like the ones on ebay to be honest

 

Stillen headers were dynoed with minimal or zero whp gains...some may have lost horsepower.

Avoid Stillen like the plague, it's a joke.

 

I have heard both good and bad things from Stillen. Main bad thing is their prices. And I have also heard about the zero gains from headers. How is that even possible???

 

Shorty header design and their Y pipe sucks.

 

Grab the OBX headers/y-pipe off eBay. Stillen's headers/y-pipe isn't worth the $877.

 

thanks guys lol ima prolly save up and go with cattman then lol

 

I heard that the obx headers for the 5.5 gen is a fitment problem. You have to shave down a piece of the cross member and I think motor mount too. Not to sure about it. I'm trying to save up for the cattmans myself. On Youtube.com, everyone is using cattmans, haven't seen any videos for the obx's yet.

 

incorrect... if you were to follow up on that thread you would've seen that the OP had other issues with the car and once those were fixed then there were gains........ they do provide decent gains but not for the $$$ spent... one guy did 13.7 in his auto with stillen headers (no way a NA auto running those numbers with no gains from headers)

 

its not

 

yes you have to shave the crossmember but its nothing damaging or a PITA

 

Cattman Gen III / Y-pipe.



/any&all"isstillentehgood?"threads

 

I am so glad I read this, I was going to buy stillen but now Im gonna check out cattman... Thanks!

 

okay I am searching online with no luck... Where can I order the cattman headers for my 02??

 

Do not buy Stillen headers. That's all I have to say for now.

 

Before someone takes advantage of the fact that you forgot your fire-retardant suit, give Brian a call. (520) 575-6195. He'll tell you everything.

 

I had Stillen headers on mine when I got the dyno in my sig. They're not the best. Cattmans FTW by far, OBX follows. But as far as no performance gains for Stillen, that's BS.

 

well actually OBX FTW then follow Rattman... Datdude20 has the OBX and is dynoing more than just about everybody with same mods and Rattman

 

Hotshot headers a very good as well.
i Just had mine installed last week and i felt a great amount of powergain.
My buddy had the same 03max with stillen headers with a minimal power gain.

i would have gone with cattman but got a better deal with hotshot

 

hotshots are awesome, too bad they went out of business..im glad i got mine!

 

Haha, we'll see who's calling Brian "Rattman" when the OBX's crap out on you guys in a year or two

...when a company's slogan is "**** is good!", you can't help but wonder...

Plus, I'd much rather support the professionalism, research, time-honored reputation of quality work then "good ****"...

 

Good cripes, "Rattman"? ..

 

 

TY I will do that. I dont get the suit joke tho...

 

ppl keep saying when it goes out, when it goes out... i see there will never be a brand ever in life that can make something sooo good as rattman... if it goes out in a yr, i will buy another one and still come out cheaper than rattman... yall dont understand that it is made of the same material as hotshot and rattman... yall will just never give anything else a chance, idk what the slogan is... im not installing a slogan on my car

EDIT: on the second part of ur post... you dont think OBX did any research at all??? i would think research is the reason why they changed their designs... something Rattman did 3 times, i guess he was just slow "no offense to Brian C Catts" the guy is great, has great products, and is very proffesional, but $$$ is way too much

 

I'm not sure where I stated the absolute that OBX did zero research, but I'll let it fly. And "way to much" is very subjective. It is a matter of justification. There are reasons luxury and super cars are priced so high. Yes, there is some demand factored in, but its mostly due in part to how the vehicles perform and what they are capable of. Moreso, they provide a piece of mind...similarly to Brian's product, something OBX will remain to fall short on.

I really don't want to turn this into a "these are better because x" argument. You're money is earned by you and you therein hold the right to spend it as you desire.

 

When I bought mine, Cattman was the only reputable design out there. Hell, mine are made for 4th gens.

 

yea u have heard...everybody always go by ear and thats y most of the poeple have the same set-up on here because they go by ear and follow what someone else does...ur gonna spend 400 bucks more for the same thing...i have had my obx headers since February and the only problem i have had was the flex pipe and that was because i hit a speed bump to hard other than that they are fine...but do what u do " mr underglow"...one minute u tell me u getting obx then cattman...lol..u dont know what u want
and u act like u are the one putting the headers in..im sure u arent going to so im sure the so called fitment issue doesnt even matter
and that was untuned and corrected numbers...so i dont know what else to say...it shouldnt even be a debate really..but whateva...idc

 

if you are willing to pay that much for stillen you mine as well get the cattman headers or obx....i dont know much about the stillen headers

 

For the threads sake:

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...1hp-232tq.html
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...rs-ts-ecu.html

Stay away ....

Back on the thread tugger:

OBX's design looks a lot better than it uded to ... So, IMO, I'd leave the decision up to said buyer. plenty of info out there (lucky shats, not like that in my day). So .. at least we have a choice to allow us to 'argue' ..

 

at one point the only thing to get was cattman...u cant find hotshot anywhere

 

way to prove the point here............. you'd prefer the Rattman's over Hotshots and its dyno proven that Hotshots make the most gains this forum is too funny, everybody just swings off rattman's ***** sack, buy hey as long as max.org and cattman exist, there will never be anything better produced than cattman's... Brian is God

 

Like the comparison (though i dont see how in life u can use that as reference to headers)... Let me ask something, so because a car costs more that means its more durable???... better yet why do a 96 I30 cost more than a 96 max???... there is so much more as to why a car cost more than the other, and its only two things to compare with headers, (power gains and durability) power gains are there, and no one owned the headers long enough to assume anything... ppl act as if when u buy rattman headers, they are unbreakable...

I agree that you do get what u pay for (headers)... with the comparison with cars that u made, Stillen should be the best thing ever shouldnt it?... u do get what u pay for right???? the more u pay the better (according to maxima.org)... let me see if i got this correct
Rattman headers- $800 or what ever the cost
Hotshot (when they exist)- $500
Hotshot- more gains, durable if not more durable but yet cattman is better

 

the reason im not going with obx is i want something that will bolt right in and have no fitment issues...i dont wanna be under my car doing other mods to other things to get something to fit right when it shuld in the begginning....yes its about 3-4 hundred dollars cheaper then cattman...but id rather go with cattman anyway...jus my .02

 

you know what dude, if most ppl would just come off like that, then its more acceptable, the problem is when everybody bashes everything if its not Rattman, like i said, i definately have no problem with his mods (other than price) but i can understand if you just dont want to do any extra, $400 isnt worth it for most i guess... im not for a bunch of extra modification either, it can be frustrating, but if that mod saves me $400, im definately for it, especially if its not a PITA or damaging to my car

 

^^ yes i heard and read that cattman is very good...but i would never bash on obx because i have cattman lik....or the opposite...both companys make good products...obx just need some moding to other parts...if your willing to do that then go for it...but do you see the differnce?...obx is 400$ cheaper because they kno it has fitment issues and needs modding to fit correctly...were *** cattman is a bolt right in and drive away product(thats why its so expensive)...if any1 sees were im tryin to get at....w.e people like theil get...but dont bash on other companys