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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 09:58 AM
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After another 2k2 SE owner told me about his wheels being stolen, I went out and got myself a set of wheel locks.

dumb question number 1: Which way do I turn to remove lug nuts? Counter-clockwise?

dumb question number 2: How important is it to use a tourque wrench? The manual suggests tightening to 80 lbs. What is the tollerance?

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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 10:02 AM
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righty tighty, lefty loosy

torque lugs between 75 and 85 ft-lbs...
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 10:03 AM
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#1 Righty... tighty, lefty... loosey.

#2 Very important. You might warp the rotors if you over-torque. 5th gen Maximas are known for having warped rotors.
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 10:25 AM
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Righty tighty???
You're such a dork...

So, what happens if I don't torque my lugs?
Will my rotors stay straight?


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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by adman
Righty tighty???
You're such a dork...

So, what happens if I don't torque my lugs?
Will my rotors stay straight?


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It's an easy way to remember which way tightens/loosens.

Your wheels would fall off if you don't torque your lugs. You can confirm my statement by doing an experiment.
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
You might warp the rotors if you over-torque. 5th gen Maximas are known for having warped rotors.
Gen6 Accord V6's have similar issues with over-torqued wheels so it's not just Maxima's. A fellow Accordian thinks that dealerships overtighten lugs just to make more money on brake work. This is the latest conspiracy theory, esp if the dealership is the one that does it
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 11:16 AM
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Another dumb question

How much should I expect to pay for a tourque wrench? While on my lunch break I went to Home Depot and saw one for $55. This one was capable of 250 lbs. I'm hoping I can get one for significantly less than that, but what do I know.

Thanks for all your help.
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 11:17 AM
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torque wrench...

if all you are going to use this for is your lugs and maybe a FSTB later then just get one of these

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...itemnumber=239

btw, they are only like $11 in the store, if one is in your area. Again, this thing wont stay calibrated long for day to day use, but is great for this stuff. And re-checking after your tires are replaced or rotated. It will save you many trips to service for warped rotors.

somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I think its a 21mm socket.
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 11:32 AM
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Re: torque wrench...

Originally posted by TimW
somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I think its a 21mm socket.
You're right.
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
Gen6 Accord V6's have similar issues with over-torqued wheels so it's not just Maxima's. A fellow Accordian thinks that dealerships overtighten lugs just to make more money on brake work. This is the latest conspiracy theory, esp if the dealership is the one that does it
I agree with your fellow Accordian. I would guess that the majority of people that bring their cars in to get serviced don't work on their own cars.

The theory can be applied to tire shops (i.e. Firestone). Throw small metal object in front of the shop so you'll have return customers. hehehe
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
The theory can be applied to tire shops (i.e. Firestone). Throw small metal object in front of the shop so you'll have return customers. hehehe
Like mysteriously placed thumb tacks and other sharp objects just down the road from a tire shop (true stories on this).

Old Nov 27, 2001 | 11:44 AM
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I have never heard of this....

Someone actually worries about tightening down the lug nuts to spec! I am surprised nobody mentioned that they should be tightened in a criss-cross fashion. Also...it is a good idea to re-check the lugs after a day of driving.

BTW....I can't imagine going out a buying a torque wrench for this type of duty....trust me the dealers don't do this, and neither does NASCAR (Maybe they should...it would be fun seeing them use the torque wrench on each lug!)
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 11:52 AM
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Re: I have never heard of this....

Dealers should torque lug nuts properly, as it can cause warped rotors if they're too tight, but they mostly just use air wrenches.

I don't think NASCAR drivers would care about warped rotors over 500 miles though. They use some fancy high-speed stuff, though. Those suckers might actually kick off at whatever torque setting they want them tightened at
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 11:57 AM
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of course dealers dont do this...

rotors keep warping. Shops rely on the airtools to torque the lugs. There are also clutches on the air guns that can be preset at some torque level. unfortunately, they simply dont work. I saw my car done this way.. I had 110ft-lbs when he had dialed in 90. I immediately retorqued them in the parking lot. the owner came out and asked me what I was doing, I said "saving you from buying me new rotors." he thanked me.


the cross pattern is in the owners manual, you're right that's car maintenace 101.
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 12:08 PM
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Yes, please tighten lugs in a criss-crossed fashion.
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Yes, please tighten lugs in a criss-crossed fashion.
You mean, like how you rotate your tires...
driver front=> passenger back=> etc.


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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by adman


You mean, like how you rotate your tires...
driver front=> passenger back=> etc.


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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by adman


You mean, like how you rotate your tires...
driver front=> passenger back=> etc.


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Again, tell us what happens when you do that. I'm assuming you have tires (with tread patterns) that can be rotated only one way.
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 01:24 PM
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yeah...

once again.. Owner's Manual? Highly over-rated!
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Again, tell us what happens when you do that.
You warp your rotors, silly!

Geez...


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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by adman


You warp your rotors, silly!

Geez... :rolleye


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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


You can confirm my statement by doing an experiment.
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 05:06 PM
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That was a dumb question...but some of these answers are even funnier...
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