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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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ebay fstb vs stillen

Anybody have the ebay front tower strut bar? I wanted the stillen but its $100+ and the ebay one is only $10... I dont really care about the looks its more about the function and affordability, but if the ebay one totally blows I wont bother.... opinions or thoughts?
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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Its just a strut bar, I have an Ebay one and it works fine, if you get a Stillen one, you would just be paying for the name and looks, the function the same.
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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IMO honestly im sure it isnt "that" dramatic of a difference between brands im guna get a ebay one too, i had F+R strut tower bars from ebay on my last car and they were great
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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ya, thats pretty much what I thought... stillen isnt that great anyways, I dont have any other stillen gear, no need for a flashy fstb... I didnt see a rear ebay one... I'll keep searching, Im ordering the front right now.

How much of a difference does it make vs stock? I've never had these before. Does it feel better in corners?
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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yea i feel a little better in corners, I heard with the combination of FSTB RSTB and sway bar it handles very good.
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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I cant find rstb on ebay... the search continues. I dont know why sometimes I cant find anything... I couldnt find the megan exhaust anywhere and somebody else posted up a link and I bought it right away... wierd stupid ebay search function is crap
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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I don't think RSTB were ever made for the 5th gen. Besides, they don't make a huge difference on the Max. I've had mine on for about 7 months. I noticed it was a bit more responsive, but not much..

I also had it off for a time when I first dropped my Max, and when I put it back on, I didn't notice much of a difference, really.

You'd be better off saving and buying into Blehmco's LTBs or struts and shocks for your Max.
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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You'd be better off saving and buying into Blehmco's LTBs or struts and shocks for your Max.
hmmm... is stage II worth the extra $100?
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 10:42 AM
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I don't think RSTB were ever made for the 5th gen.
Stillen made a RSTB...don't think it's really worth the money...With the Stillen FSTB your paying for the looks and the name.
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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hmmm... is stage II worth the extra $100?
I've never owned one personally, but from what I've heard, plenty of the .org members were very happy with the Stage II bar. You just have to be careful if you live in an area with rough roads.
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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Stillen made a RSTB...don't think it's really worth the money...With the Stillen FSTB your paying for the looks and the name.
Oh really? I never saw it on Stillen's site.

Did they discontinue it? I'm guessing it was never too popular.
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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Oh really? I never saw it on Stillen's site.

Did they discontinue it? I'm guessing it was never too popular.
no its still there alright. its pretty much identical, maybe thats why you didnt notice it.
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The image below will link you to the Stillen Website, $151.

I talked with Brian Catts about this a few months ago after buying a Progress RSB from him. He said the RSTB has a very minimal impact, and is mostly for people who track their cars, having already done everything else possible suspension-wise.

Or for people into the bling. It's in your trunk... so I'm not sure about the whole "bling" thing anyway.



All that said, I personally think it's very cool looking. But I'm also not going to buy one. RSB and FSTB are plenty enough enhancement to handling in the way of stiffening the chassis. There are other options, but not so much for the daily driver, IMO.

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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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Your car does feel tighter, and a little less flex, but its hard to tell since our rears are beam axle. Sway bar helps more. Too bad you cant get the alutec anymore. That this is 2lbs total.
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Bump.

Good posts.

+1 on purchase of eBay FSTB $28.50

current ebay auction

store
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You know, different front braces will all have different clearance from the intake, which might be an issue if you're thinking about installing intake spacers.

The Stillen and Racingline models have the necessary clearance. I don't know about the ebay ones.

Just one more thing to consider.
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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FSTB dont really matter RSB does... my ebay FSTB should be here sometime next week $30
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
You know, different front braces will all have different clearance from the intake, which might be an issue if you're thinking about installing intake spacers.

The Stillen and Racingline models have the necessary clearance. I don't know about the ebay ones.

Just one more thing to consider.
are u serious or are u just tellin us what u think??? i've never heard of that problem, and manny (datdude20) has the ebay one and also has spacers
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
are u serious or are u just tellin us what u think??? i've never heard of that problem, and manny (datdude20) has the ebay one and also has spacers
What has you confused? There are a bunch of different tower braces on Ebay... the aren't all the same. Stillen's installation instructions recommend you grind the top of your intake to fit, even though you don't have to. And my Racingline has room to spare, which I'm happy about.

I'm not sure how to respond, Hustler. You could try reading slower, if that helps.
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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lol... i just thought all of the will clear... i understand though... u kno i never understood why ppl called me hustler???
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
FSTB dont really matter RSB does... my ebay FSTB should be here sometime next week $30
Of course the FSTB matters. After you get the brackets mounted, drive with it and without it a number of times. You'll see the difference on the sharp turn-in, and when pulling hard out of a turn from launch.

It's much more evident if you experiment with the FSTB handling without the benefit of a RSB. If you already have the RSB, you may not notice.

But more to the point... if it doesn't matter, why are you buying one?
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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honestly bro... i bought it just for looks and to add to the mod list
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I reading reading Hustler.. LOL
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I reading reading Hustler.. LOL
HAHAHAHA! Instead of, "read slower, Hustler" -- I should have said, "Read Hustler slower". Too funny.

I'm done for the night. Been getting the "why don't you spend time with your children" speech.
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Of course the FSTB matters. After you get the brackets mounted, drive with it and without it a number of times. You'll see the difference on the sharp turn-in, and when pulling hard out of a turn from launch.

It's much more evident if you experiment with the FSTB handling without the benefit of a RSB. If you already have the RSB, you may not notice.

But more to the point... if it doesn't matter, why are you buying one?
actually RSB makes 10 times the difference than a FSTB, i've also owned one before, makes no difference at all, maxima's suffer from oversteer so the rear will most likely give out than the front hence why a RSB is better
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HAHAHAHA! Instead of, "read slower, Hustler" -- I should have said, "Read Hustler slower". Too funny.

I'm done for the night. Been getting the "why don't you spend time with your children" speech.
somebody should make this a sig
Old Aug 27, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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This is such a n00bish question.

The reason the Stillen one costs so much is cuz it makes your car go around corners faster.

STILLEN = GTR handling. Just crank the wheel on corner entry at WOT and the FSTB will just drive you around the corner.









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Originally Posted by Rochester
You know, different front braces will all have different clearance from the intake, which might be an issue if you're thinking about installing intake spacers.

The Stillen and Racingline models have the necessary clearance. I don't know about the ebay ones.

Just one more thing to consider.
aww well I guess I will find out cuz I already ordered ebay fstb and I am getting the nwp spacers next month...
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I have noticed better handling, although mine is neither the ebay one or the stillen one. I have one that says factory tuned on it(heard it was a failed attempt of falken getting into the tower bar business). It cost me 40 dollars because I bought it when they were liquidating the product line. It is pretty darn solid, and looks good(although I need to polish it now due to some wear). For someone with very little suspension mods, I have found it to be beneficial (though that may be due to some placebo effect)
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Anyone try out the eBay one(s) yet? For 28 bucks I might have to just give in & buy one.
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^^^ yea, me and datdude20, and iirc phantomv has em on our 5.5, fits well, if i was reading earlier i would've snapped a pic, mines is off now because im doing my headers
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as i took it out the wrapper
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as i took it out the wrapper
was it a direct fit? ive heard of some modification needed for some ebay ones.. but the one u bought might have been a direct bolt on.. if so, i might be purchasing one, was just waiting for someone else to try it first lol
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Originally Posted by nzelinsky
ya, thats pretty much what I thought... stillen isnt that great anyways, I dont have any other stillen gear, no need for a flashy fstb... I didnt see a rear ebay one... I'll keep searching, Im ordering the front right now.

How much of a difference does it make vs stock? I've never had these before. Does it feel better in corners?
on a scale of 1-10 FSTB vs stock= 0.0000000000000001 Difference
Old Sep 1, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tookrzy4u192
was it a direct fit? ive heard of some modification needed for some ebay ones.. but the one u bought might have been a direct bolt on.. if so, i might be purchasing one, was just waiting for someone else to try it first lol
man, you guys are so afraid to try crap... gotta learn to be difference makers, stop listening to idiots that make up non sense, whenever the word Ebay comes up somebody will make up something just because.... if u look in the background of this pic you would see that minse is already installed, no modification needed JUST SO EVERBODY KNOWS, THE STRUT BARS ARE ADJUSTABLE... ALL OF THEM ARE SO IT WILL FIT

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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
as i took it out the wrapper
Naw I just got mine last week from Ebay. It fit right on and has made a big difference in the handling department. Looks exactly like yours.
Old Sep 1, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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If i said i was going to buy illumina's off ebay i gurantee somebody will come on and say "i hear the ones off ebay dont last as long an you will have to refill the gas in the struts" or "MY FRIEND has one that he bought from ebay and they broke in two while the car was just sitting in the garage overnight" ppl will continue to tell Bold face lies
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Naw I just got mine last week from Ebay. It fit right on and has made a big difference in the handling department. Looks exactly like yours.
Trust me dude, it made no difference, its all in the mind... you install it and then go for a drive and try to pay keen attention to your suspension so you pay more details to lil stuff thats been there that u havent paid attention to before, so you think its the strut bar... i gurantee you if you could some how test you car to see how fast it can go around a corner with and without the strut bar i can 99.9% gurantee you there would be no MPH difference... RSB is what makes a difference, maxima's dont have problems with understeer so the FSTB doesnt do much if anything, we suffer from oversteer so we need the RSB to keep our chassis from giving out around turns hense why the RSB is 100 times better and more expensive
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Personally I've lost a lotta faith in stillen products. Things like headers, catback, and FSTB are best bought on eBay. I see no difference in performance gains, just a fancy sticker or the the etched in.
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GH - you're not driving fast enough, lol!

I just got it to see if it'll at least attenuate some of my excessive roll (and bump steer) I experience...for $28, worth a try; but there was no way that I was gonna be modifying/cutting/etc. my car to make it "work" - just wanted to make sure it was a direct fit.

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