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Old 12-02-2001 | 11:40 PM
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20's????

I was just wondering if anyone has put 20's on a 5th generation Max. I am getting rims this summer and i want 19's or 20's if they will fit. If someone has any pics or knows that it fits without doing any work to the car to fit them let me know.
Old 12-03-2001 | 12:25 AM
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in reality

you don't want 20s... they may look good... but you will pay an arm and a leg for it.... feel every little bump on the high way, and bend a rim easy..... not worth it in my opinion
Old 12-03-2001 | 08:25 AM
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They fit, and if you read an article in Car & Driver almost two years ago about plus sizing you'll see that tire technology has evolved so much that these low profile tires do not affect the ride THAT much. The article was about a BMW 7 series where they plus sized all the way to plus 3 like you want to do for the Maxima. Yes, you have a bigger chance of tacoing a rim cause there is less rubber to take the impact, but the difference in ride quality is not as bad as most claim. My friend has an Expedition on a 3/5 drop sitting on 285-30/22 and it rides great.
Old 12-03-2001 | 09:24 AM
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Your friends Expedition is defintly hott. Thanks for the info.
Old 12-03-2001 | 10:47 AM
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The tires arn't the most important part in comfort. Of course they do play a role but the suspension is the most important part.

With that said I saw a 2k with 20" fittapaldi Argus on at a show awhile ago looked great...I recomend them. Said it rode pretty soft and wished it was firmer...so. Do it.
Old 12-03-2001 | 12:17 PM
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Thanks for that plug jay! I have a set of 20" fittipaldi Arguses silver w/ a polished lip for 1700.00. Brand new in the box!



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The tires arn't the most important part in comfort. Of course they do play a role but the suspension is the most important part.

With that said I saw a 2k with 20" fittapaldi Argus on at a show awhile ago looked great...I recomend them. Said it rode pretty soft and wished it was firmer...so. Do it.
Old 12-03-2001 | 12:23 PM
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Hey rocket..How many sets of rims do you have??? You buy rims every other month or what??? :P
Old 12-03-2001 | 03:05 PM
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No, I have a business that my friend and I own that deal with wheels and aftermarket accessories! I have a contract with the local Infinity, Volkswagen, MBZ, Lexus, Cadillac, Audi and BMW dealers and I customize their cars per the customers request. I have packages that I offer for every car which includes, aero kits, sport tuned exhausts, mobile media, suspensions and things of that nature! A have these fitipaldi b/c they were origanlly supposed to go on a Q45 we customized and at the last min. the dealership said that they wanted chrome 20" argus'. I got the chrome ones and in the midst of me sending the silver ones back, fittipaldi folded!




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Hey rocket..How many sets of rims do you have??? You buy rims every other month or what??? :P
Old 12-03-2001 | 04:13 PM
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Oh...that explains it. Does that $1700 include shipping?
Old 12-03-2001 | 04:44 PM
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Nope! It will be 75.00 shipped 2day air.


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Oh...that explains it. Does that $1700 include shipping?
Old 12-03-2001 | 04:52 PM
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Wow...thats not a bad deal. How much do the rims weigh?
Old 12-03-2001 | 06:13 PM
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Not to try to hurt the deal or anything but how come your selling them so cheap? They retailed for like 750 a peice for 20"s.
Old 12-03-2001 | 06:30 PM
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These are not chrome. They are silver w/ a polished lip. Of course i got them at cost and I am selling thme for what I have in them!


Originally posted by max'n out
Not to try to hurt the deal or anything but how come your selling them so cheap? They retailed for like 750 a peice for 20"s.
Old 12-03-2001 | 06:45 PM
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If you are only really concerned about the looks of your car then try out the 20s...but when you get em say goodbye to the maxima performance. I personally think it would LOOK good but I would never consider getting anything bigger than 17s because I dont want to spare any performance...maybe if I get a supercharger id consider 18s but even though im not soo sure.
Old 12-03-2001 | 06:51 PM
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Some 20's would look hella of tight during the summer. For cruising or just showing off the car. I have a set of chrome for the summer and silver for the winter.
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Last I knew the non chrome ones the ones with fully polished lip where 750 for the wheels for 20"s Cuz i looked at gettin um. But oh well just wondered.

Chill will. Keep in mind that the factory 17"s are not light. It's not just the size. My 19"s don't weigh more than the factorys and believe me performance does not sufer. Plus you also have to look at things like handling a car with bigger wider wheels than a car that doesn't have that should handle better. After all how many people have a max just to take down the strip.
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20s on a max?

i would defitnetly get a body kit if i was to put 20s on a max. it just has the hot wheel effect with no body kit. just my 2cents.
Old 12-03-2001 | 10:11 PM
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Re: 20s on a max?

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i would defitnetly get a body kit if i was to put 20s on a max. it just has the hot wheel effect with no body kit. just my 2cents.
Acually if he would get 20"s he'd need coilovers. Well not need but definitly need somthing where he could adjust it, a reg drop ain't gonna cut it. But yeah coilovers 20" fit's and a kit....WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

And I don't say that often.
Old 12-04-2001 | 12:35 PM
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20's?

Does anyone know the biggest tires you can put on 20's if you don't lower the Max any? And still not have them rub?
Old 12-04-2001 | 01:07 PM
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Re: 20's?

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Does anyone know the biggest tires you can put on 20's if you don't lower the Max any? And still not have them rub?
245-35. But if you do 20"s you need to change the suspension. Why. Severel reasons one being it would be in the clouds if you don't. And thats chessey. Two you don't want the factory suspension bouncy around when you got 20"s. Three I said so four. You need control over the way it sits and rides.
Old 12-04-2001 | 01:09 PM
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Re: 20's?

Originally posted by D Love
Does anyone know the biggest tires you can put on 20's if you don't lower the Max any? And still not have them rub?
Following the + sizing rule you'd need a 245/30/20 tire on a 20" rim to keep the speedometer reading correctly. I'm not certain if that will actually fit on a Max. A 235/35/19 fits correctly on a 19" rim on a Maxima. Supposedly a 245 will rub on a 19" rim.

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Old 12-04-2001 | 02:43 PM
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Re: Re: 20's?

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Following the + sizing rule you'd need a 245/30/20 tire on a 20" rim to keep the speedometer reading correctly. I'm not certain if that will actually fit on a Max. A 235/35/19 fits correctly on a 19" rim on a Maxima. Supposedly a 245 will rub on a 19" rim.

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You don't want a 30 series tire on a 245 wide thats not gonna be very much rubber. Forget about keeping the speedo right it's not gonna be way off. Being as I have 245-35-19 I can say that it would only rub if your shocks give alot on big dips, thats the only time. And it's not a big deal. Infact you could go 255 with a 19" if you'd like and still be fine most of the time.
Old 12-05-2001 | 12:58 AM
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See what I dont get is how you wont bend a 20? I bent my 17s on the highway past week when I went on a 800mile trip from DC to Birmingham. All highway, and some of the bumps on the highway are vicious, and I think one of them bent my two front wheels, Now I gotta get new ones.

This is nonsense, I hate bent rims.
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bent rims

its just falls under the price ya gotta pay to play. ive curb up all four rims. if i had stockers that would not have happened. just gotta be real careful.
Old 12-05-2001 | 10:30 AM
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Well, bent wheels are the cause of poor structure. When I had my 19" MOMO's I never bent a wheel and I had 235/35 tires and where I live is pothole USA. , But I had a set of enkei G-Zeros on my 95 Max some years back and I think I bent all four wheels. Ironically those ETX's you have are made by enkei! The metal is to soft. You are also more likely to bend a wheel that has a lip on it as well!





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See what I dont get is how you wont bend a 20? I bent my 17s on the highway past week when I went on a 800mile trip from DC to Birmingham. All highway, and some of the bumps on the highway are vicious, and I think one of them bent my two front wheels, Now I gotta get new ones.

This is nonsense, I hate bent rims.
Old 12-05-2001 | 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by BigDogJonx
See what I dont get is how you wont bend a 20? I bent my 17s on the highway past week when I went on a 800mile trip from DC to Birmingham. All highway, and some of the bumps on the highway are vicious, and I think one of them bent my two front wheels, Now I gotta get new ones.

This is nonsense, I hate bent rims.
Some wheels just bend easy. Chrome wheels tend to be real soft, some wheels just bend easyer than others too. I can tell ya that I have hit many bumps that I wondered if the rim was still intact but it was fine. I also run the same size tire that I told him to get for the 20"s. All in all it really comes down to the rims.
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hey rocket do u have pictures for the wheel? thx
Old 12-23-2001 | 05:55 AM
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Re: 20's????

Originally posted by 2001MaximaSe
I was just wondering if anyone has put 20's on a 5th generation Max. I am getting rims this summer and i want 19's or 20's if they will fit. If someone has any pics or knows that it fits without doing any work to the car to fit them let me know.
I would'nt get 20's...I mean, if you're into the looks more than the performance then I guess its ok. But if you get 20's then I would'nt bother wasting any more money on performance mods...just go for looks. I wet from the stock 17's to chrome 18's and I noticed a BIG difference in handling! Not necesasarily worse handling but "diferent"...it took some getting used to when the front wheels would take off when I started out hard...sorta turn themselves to the right or left automatically! I can imagine what 19's or 20's would do...not to metion you'll probly be running with like an inch to an inch and a half of tire between the rim and the road....Anyway, just my opinion but, I would'nt do it! You'll look just as nice w/17's or 18's and a nice drop!


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I would'nt get 20's...I mean, if you're into the looks more than the performance then I guess its ok. But if you get 20's then I would'nt bother wasting any more money on performance mods...just go for looks. I wet from the stock 17's to chrome 18's and I noticed a BIG difference in handling! Not necesasarily worse handling but "diferent"...it took some getting used to when the front wheels would take off when I started out hard...sorta turn themselves to the right or left automatically! I can imagine what 19's or 20's would do...not to metion you'll probly be running with like an inch to an inch and a half of tire between the rim and the road....Anyway, just my opinion but, I would'nt do it! You'll look just as nice w/17's or 18's and a nice drop!


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Your right on the last sentence, I mean I dropped my car and with my Chrome 17s, I get alot of people asking me if they are 18 or 19s?

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Old 12-23-2001 | 11:36 PM
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Did I miss the weight of the 20's...fittipaldi Arguses? This size thing is important cause I'm considering 18" SSR Comps, but don't want to gain too much poundage.
Old 12-23-2001 | 11:47 PM
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Did I miss the weight of the 20's...fittipaldi Arguses? This size thing is important cause I'm considering 18" SSR Comps, but don't want to gain too much poundage.
I don't have the weight sorry but I can tell you that there pretty light and very strong, Great racing wheel company. I looked in to getting them b4 I got the ones I have and liked um I suggest them highly.
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Originally posted by max'n out


I don't have the weight sorry but I can tell you that there pretty light and very strong, Great racing wheel company. I looked in to getting them b4 I got the ones I have and liked um I suggest them highly.
Are speaking of the SSR's or Fitti's?
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Originally posted by ehughes


Are speaking of the SSR's or Fitti's?

not max'n out but most likely he's talking about the SSR's.

The Fittapoldi's are some heavy wheels. One of my friends has the tubalare 18's and they are heavy! I think they are 35+ lbs per wheel. Nice wheels though. I would just have to say if you are going for 20's you are not really going for "go" mods. I have 19's and they are not light. I don't plan on racing anyone any time soon either. Now max'n is different ... he's got boost, and light wheels so he's just fine.
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Originally posted by ehughes


Are speaking of the SSR's or Fitti's?
Accually I'm talking about the fits. To an extent the fit argus 20"s are sorta heavy but any 20 is gonna have some weight you gotta expect it. But in a comparision to other 20's there not bad. Also there much much more derable than the ssr's. The reallity is if you bought the max cuz you wanted it to be ultra fast you bought the wrong car. So if your conserned about wheels slowing the car down to much maybe you should have bought a porche. One other thing I know for a fact that the 20" argus runs for $720 per wheel if you din't know. Not bad for a 20 really. Another option would be to look into voxx argus same exact wheel and they have 19"s which fit don't. I can't speak to much on the quality of voxx though don't know to much about um.
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Originally posted by max'n out


Accually I'm talking about the fits. To an extent the fit argus 20"s are sorta heavy but any 20 is gonna have some weight you gotta expect it. But in a comparision to other 20's there not bad. Also there much much more derable than the ssr's. The reallity is if you bought the max cuz you wanted it to be ultra fast you bought the wrong car. So if your conserned about wheels slowing the car down to much maybe you should have bought a porche. One other thing I know for a fact that the 20" argus runs for $720 per wheel if you din't know. Not bad for a 20 really. Another option would be to look into voxx argus same exact wheel and they have 19"s which fit don't. I can't speak to much on the quality of voxx though don't know to much about um.
Thanks for the wheel info. Why do you think the SSR's would not be durable? I am learning.

Actually, I did buy my car for the quickness/power/whatever. Not many 4drs can keep up. And I had to have a 4dr for my business and did not want to spend $45k. I would rather surprise someone in my Max that give them what they expect in a Porsche! (Wouldn't turn one down though )
Old 12-27-2001 | 11:04 AM
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I have 19" z5000 on a 2k2 and have had no problems. As a matter of fact this setup rides/handles/feels better than the 17" MHT rims that were on my 97 SE
Old 12-27-2001 | 12:23 PM
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Hmm...Know I'm thinking of getting some 19's. Post some pics trans
Old 12-27-2001 | 02:09 PM
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does anybody have 19" C5 rims? i want the silver 19" c5 on my white max but i wanna see how they look first...
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Originally posted by ehughes


Thanks for the wheel info. Why do you think the SSR's would not be durable? I am learning.

Actually, I did buy my car for the quickness/power/whatever. Not many 4drs can keep up. And I had to have a 4dr for my business and did not want to spend $45k. I would rather surprise someone in my Max that give them what they expect in a Porsche! (Wouldn't turn one down though )
If you bought the car to be quick in comparisin to say ac's and such then ok but like you said it's not a porche or even an m5. If you run 20inch wheels or 19's you run small tires which means less possible protection and Ive heard some ssr's being bent the biger they go. Where as the fits are just real strong and pretty light. i don't think my wheels slowed the car at all. Then again it's blown.
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well I have 19" momo's and it slowed my car down. they are heavy as hell though ... i'd say about 38-45 lbs per wheel. Like I said before ... i bought my car b/c of the power it had, but once the wheel option came, it was either "show" or "go." I chose "show" because I love the wheels. Now if you are getting 20's once again I'll go out on a limb and say you aren't that interested in "go" unless you are livin' large. Those wheels are going to be expensive, but any lightweight "race" wheel in that size (if it's even made - I've never seen any) is going to cost a small fortune!

Max'n is an exception ... he's got a super charger with his 19's but for those of us without forced induction ... we aren't going to pickin' on m5's or porches (at least I'm not ... ego is to breakable) and expect to win with those large wheels.

My 2 cents, if you are looking for speed get some lightweight 17's. If you are looking for a "show" car look and make people break their necks looking at you as you drive by ... get the 19+ wheels.

But that's just my opinion.



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