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Old 12-17-2009 | 05:59 PM
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nice to see you cleaning up ricers who think you got a fart can!

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Plus, if people DO think I'm just a random ricer, it's just all the more surprise
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nice to see you cleaning up ricers who think you got a fart can!
Ha, I haven't had any of the local ricers bite. I occasionally ride around town with open Y-pipe (when I'm out tuning), and have on occasion sprayed nitrous on them while they were standing around in a big group at the local "hangout" McDonalds parking lot (I had dual purge lines running out of the upper grill). For some reason, they're not interested in trying.
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Perhaps I over-generalized, and should have said usually rice.

If it sounds good, and performs well... that's cool. As long as it doesn't stick 6" out from the back like some stainless steel phallus. I love the Maxima, and that's a difficult thing to see.
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Perhaps I over-generalized, and should have said usually rice.

If it sounds good, and performs well... that's cool. As long as it doesn't stick 6" out from the back like some stainless steel phallus. I love the Maxima, and that's a difficult thing to see.
It's almost perfectly flush with the lower part of the bumper where it exits, but sticks out about 1/2" which is optimal if you don't want carbon deposits all over your bumper. I'll take a couple of detailed pics when it's daylight out. Also, I have to admit that if any flames are coming out, it looks cooler from a single tip... but that may also be considered rice to you
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
It's almost perfectly flush with the lower part of the bumper where it exits, but sticks out about 1/2" which is optimal if you don't want carbon deposits all over your bumper. I'll take a couple of detailed pics when it's daylight out. Also, I have to admit that if any flames are coming out, it looks cooler from a single tip... but that may also be considered rice to you
Sure! Let's see the photos.

I'm predisposed in my opinion here, but would happily think otherwise.
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Sure! Let's see the photos.

I'm predisposed in my opinion here, but would happily think otherwise.
Yeah, well pretty much if a large-ish single tip is straight rice for you, then any will be rice. I think it's ok if tastefully done on most imports since that's always been the style. It's a little iffy on a maxima (imo) since it's more of a luxury car, but the sound it makes probably quickly quells that. haha.
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Sounds good man...now I am second guessing the magnaflow muffler that I have awaiting installation, lol. And there are worse things than having the single tip on maxima's, I've seen them on minivans before
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Sounds good man...now I am second guessing the magnaflow muffler that I have awaiting installation, lol. And there are worse things than having the single tip on maxima's, I've seen them on minivans before
Why are you second guessing it? If you don't have headers, it hardly matters what muffler you install, it will still be nice and quiet and it's not going to sound anything like mine.
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Maybe "second guessing" was bad choice of words, I suppose I should've said "regret." I debated about that catback b/c of the price but decided against it b/c I was unsure how'd it look (looks good btw) and the build quality (which you seem happy with)...that' all.
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
Ha, I haven't had any of the local ricers bite.
I've noticed ricers tend to stay away from Maximas, especially 5.5 gens.
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Yeah, um, no. Sorry man, just one guys opinion. I respect what you did, just don't like the look.

omg, I just noticed your license plate. Wow! Look at that!
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Yeah, um, no. Sorry man, just one guys opinion. I respect what you did, just don't like the look.

omg, I just noticed your license plate. Wow! Look at that!
Oh I understand. Like I said, if you hate single tip mufflers, then you hate single tip mufflers.

Just don't get stuck next to me at the track.. You'll be getting a good look at it
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Just don't get stuck next to me at the track.. You'll be getting a good look at it
I don't track. But I see those quarter times in your sig, so yes, that's pretty much what would happen. I get that.

(but i also know what I have, and how well my car runs, so it wouldn't be a total slaughter.)

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I don't track. But I see those quarter times in your sig, so yes, that's pretty much what would happen. I get that.
Hoping for a 12 second pass N/A this weekend, even with my fart can.
Old 12-18-2009 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sparks03max

thats exactly how mine sits.

it even looks like the same exhaust it is diff tho mine came with a ricey looking silencer I can put in there.

http://forums.maxima.org/album.php?a...ictureid=12997

I have a few pics in that album of it.
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Originally Posted by hot_wax_tree
thats exactly how mine sits.

it even looks like the same exhaust it is diff tho mine came with a ricey looking silencer I can put in there.

http://forums.maxima.org/album.php?a...ictureid=12997

I have a few pics in that album of it.
Looks like yours has some holes drilled in the tip? Mine doesn't have that at all. Does yours have any company emblem on the side?
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Originally Posted by Rochester
I don't track. But I see those quarter times in your sig, so yes, that's pretty much what would happen. I get that.

(but i also know what I have, and how well my car runs, so it wouldn't be a total slaughter.)
oh!!! I think its on now man you two...maxus its on.
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Looks like yours has some holes drilled in the tip? Mine doesn't have that at all. Does yours have any company emblem on the side?
the holes are for the silencer you can see the silencer in a diff pic in the album I put it in it just has two bolts.

I cant see one I just went and checked but I kinda remember one being there. but not certain
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Originally Posted by Rochester
I don't track. But I see those quarter times in your sig, so yes, that's pretty much what would happen. I get that.

(but i also know what I have, and how well my car runs, so it wouldn't be a total slaughter.)
Hey, a loss is a loss, and without headers, a tune, and good '60 foots on those tires you'd be in bad shape. I think you'd be surprised how quickly you can run 1+ second slower.

But hey... that's all bench racing. Come to maxus and show me. I'll be that ricer with the fart can

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Originally Posted by sparks03max
Hey, a loss is a loss, and without headers, a tune, and good '60 foots on those tires you'd be in bad shape. I think you'd be surprised how quickly you can run 1+ second slower.

But hey... that's all bench racing. Come to maxus and show me. I'll be that ricer with the fart can
No. No, no, no. I was just trying to salvage a little bit of pride. Just a teeny bit. Heck, I'd probably loose 2 whole seconds just freaking out from the adrenalin. It's been almost 25 years since I've raced on a 1/4 mile track. (Just as long for racing 1/4 mile street, but we don't talk about that.) You've gone all the way with your mods, and proven yourself at the track, with and without the juice. From what I've read, that's your sandbox, Sparks.

I actually will be at Maxus this year. You'll be the ricer with the fart can. I'll be the suburban dad with his inconspicuous Maxima parked safely in the lot.

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You'll be the ricer with the fart can. I'll be the suburban dad with his inconspicuous Maxima parked safely in the lot.
And that just illuminates the difference between our opinions. I still think that a tastefully done and nice sounding single-tip muffler is an import style thing that will never go away. For me it was less expensive and probably looks a little neater with flames coming out of it than a dual-tip option.

If you want to get real literal about the meaning of "rice", you could talk **** about people putting over sized dual tips on the end of a single 2.5" exhaust *cough*.

People will get mufflers with 6" tips and put them on civics, sentras, you name it, just like rednecks will straight pipe (or flowmaster) v6-optioned and early model american v8 cars thinking they'll sound/look like a straight piped high performance V8 car. In many cases, these people will form bad opinions in others about the ones that aren't so distasteful.

Either way you spin it I am OK with this exhaust, completely happy with how it sounds, and I can accept that sound is coming out of a single-tip muffler. Obviously if you don't come to the same conclusion then you can spend the extra money on dual tips. Just remember that those dual tips aren't any more functional than a single tip and your high horse isn't quite as high as you think.
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And that just illuminates the difference between our opinions.
Yep. Different priorities, different opinions. But I think we both respect automotive performance, and disparage hardcore rice.

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If you want to get real literal about the meaning of "rice", you could talk **** about people putting over sized dual tips on the end of a single 2.5" exhaust *cough*.
Oh, I'd agree with that right away. Clown wheels fit that definition as well.
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Well I've decided I'm going to have the front part of my old exhaust (with the flange and 2 resonators) welded in place of the piping that connects to the test pipe and before the first resonator on this catback due to rasp. It should be an easy/cheap job since they'll just be cutting the 2 pieces and putting in 1 weld, but I'll have to make sure and baby sit to be sure they get the length right and stretch the mild piece instead of use a reducer and screw up the piping ID.

That means I'll have 3 14" resonators in line, and although overkill, I know there won't be any rasp!!!

I'll recommend to Custom Maxima that when developing the dual tip and 3" versions, they should consider a price increase in exchange for running a bigger resonator to cut down rasp on vehicles with headers or at least offer an option for a bigger resonator. This would also prove once and for all that they aren't just reselling Ebay catbacks.
Old 12-19-2009 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
It's been almost 25 years since I've raced on a 1/4 mile track.
1982 for me.

Only raced off a pro tree, unless you count the sportsman tree the Top Eliminator cars at Speed Zone use...and I'm still good enough off a tree to beat both my kids.
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Well I installed 1 magnaflow 14" resonator (one of the 2 from my old exhaust) in place of the test pipe directly behind the Y-pipe to get the most effect from it. The rasp that I was noticing at around 3000-3500 rpms is completely gone and the drone is at a level that turning the radio to a low comfortable volume makes it unnoticeable.

I'll try to get another exhaust video (this time from a distance so the mic doesn't cut out) at some point.

Another positive is that I can now sell my test pipe. It's the 2.5" one selling on ebay for $56 shipped.

The guy at the muffler shop gave me one of these when I showed him my old under-car dump exhaust (that just happened to fit in the trunk...lol) and told him that it'd been on the car for almost a year and then gave me another funny look when he saw the shiny cattman headers/Ypipe. Then when I pulled it out of the bay, he said to rev it up to make sure it sounded right. After revving out to redline he had a huge grin on his face and said "man that thing turns some revs, don't it!? Damn!!" Just thought I'd share that since it was pretty entertaining to me.
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Here is a new sound clip taken with my laptop (not the best), but it came out OK and you can very obviously tell the difference. It sounds alot more exotic and deep with zero rasp.

I hosted it on box.net, which seems reliable enough for hosting sound files.

http://www.box.net/shared/at0ybu1pxp
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Here is another taken from further away from the car. Less microphone cutout.

http://www.box.net/shared/xgsmko7ugt
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I also have a love for this high pitched, exotic, almost bike-sounding note that I have...
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Here is another taken from further away from the car. Less microphone cutout.
You're right, it does sound like a bike.
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You're right, it does sound like a bike.
Yeah I love it! It's just a quieter (and somewhat deeper) version of what it sounded like with the resonated open dump, with a bonus of not decimating my ear drums inside the car. It is literally 1/10th as loud inside as it was before. Probably not so much outside but that's fine with me.

I'm really interested in how it's going to sound by summer.
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That does sound pretty good, usually theres some kinda rasp with headers.
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That does sound pretty good, usually theres some kinda rasp with headers.
Yeah for sure. There IS something that normally remedies that without too much extra resonation. Wrapping the headers. I've seen 2-3 N/A build threads on my350z where they wrapped their headers to decrease underhood temperatures and ended up with far less rasp and drone, even a deeper exhaust note. If my heads come off at some point, I'll be taking the time to do a good coat/wrapping job on my headers while they're removed anyway.

Also if your exhaust rests on anything (even if you can't hear it knocking around), it will create a lot of artificial rasp.
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Wrapping the headers. I've seen 2-3 N/A build threads on my350z where they wrapped their headers to decrease underhood temperatures and ended up with far less rasp and drone, even a deeper exhaust note.
I've never heard of that before. What do you wrap them with?

I'm just curious.
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I've never heard of that before. What do you wrap them with?

I'm just curious.
You use the combination of silicon coating and header wrap. There are plenty of kits out there that you can buy. It can mean huge drops in underhood temps too, which is pretty great for those of us using a SRI. I'm still going to figure out some kind of a heat shielded box that pulls air from the bumper one of these days. I may have to leave my foglights out for ram air holes, haha.
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