5.0 Gen Front Brakes
5.0 Gen Front Brakes
Not getting any help over in the advanced suspension, chassis, and braking section. Hopefully someone can help me out here!
So I am pretty sure my front brakes are experiencing the infamous warping/shuddering and am ready to replace the rotors and pads. I've been doing some research and if possible, would like to up the size of the front rotors with as little modification as possible. I know the 6th gen rotors are a popular upgrade, but they do NOT fit underneath my 5.0 AE wheels.
Since the 6th gen BBK upgrade is out of the question, my next option is to upgrade the fronts to 5.5 gen rotors. I've been searching around and would like some clarification on upgrading to this size. I found this thread and the OP states he did this upgrade. Is all I need to make the 5.5 rotors work with my 5.0 calipers the 5.5 caliper bracket?
I'm planning on replacing the rotors with brembo blanks, which seems to be the consensus choice. As far as pads, I've read a lot on here about how everyone likes the Hawk HPS pads. I've also been hearing about EBC pads (anyone have opinions on ebc's?). Also have been looking through the Group Deal. They have the zinc plated brembo blanks for 89-01 but not for 5.5 gens, they are RTP. How do they compare in quality/stopping power/reliability to the brembo blanks?
I know there's a lot here, but any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
So I am pretty sure my front brakes are experiencing the infamous warping/shuddering and am ready to replace the rotors and pads. I've been doing some research and if possible, would like to up the size of the front rotors with as little modification as possible. I know the 6th gen rotors are a popular upgrade, but they do NOT fit underneath my 5.0 AE wheels.
Well, I have some good news and some bad news..
With a warm day here, I did some brake maintenance, and while at it did a test-fit (dry run, no lines or anything) of the 2004 maxima calipers (and rotors) on my 5th gen....
The bad news now:
The will NOT fit beneath our OEM 17" rims (and definitely not the 16's). The OEM calipers come out about 1 1/4" from the rotor face, while the 2004 calipers come out a little over 1 1/2" from the rotor face. SOOOOOO. After test-fitting everything, the wheel will not go on all the way. Damn. (and now I have 2 brand-new caliper assemblies sitting around...)
With a warm day here, I did some brake maintenance, and while at it did a test-fit (dry run, no lines or anything) of the 2004 maxima calipers (and rotors) on my 5th gen....
The bad news now:
The will NOT fit beneath our OEM 17" rims (and definitely not the 16's). The OEM calipers come out about 1 1/4" from the rotor face, while the 2004 calipers come out a little over 1 1/2" from the rotor face. SOOOOOO. After test-fitting everything, the wheel will not go on all the way. Damn. (and now I have 2 brand-new caliper assemblies sitting around...)

I'm planning on replacing the rotors with brembo blanks, which seems to be the consensus choice. As far as pads, I've read a lot on here about how everyone likes the Hawk HPS pads. I've also been hearing about EBC pads (anyone have opinions on ebc's?). Also have been looking through the Group Deal. They have the zinc plated brembo blanks for 89-01 but not for 5.5 gens, they are RTP. How do they compare in quality/stopping power/reliability to the brembo blanks?
I know there's a lot here, but any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Why even bother upgrading to 5.5...just go ahead to do teh 6th gen swap...its not hard nor expensive, then just pick up some stock 6th gen 18 inch wheels to clear the calipers. If I, a 22 yr old, part time working, full time student can find a way to afford it so can you.
Why even bother upgrading to 5.5...just go ahead to do teh 6th gen swap...its not hard nor expensive, then just pick up some stock 6th gen 18 inch wheels to clear the calipers. If I, a 22 yr old, part time working, full time student can find a way to afford it so can you.
I could be wrong but I believe the 6th gen brake setup would work if you get wheel spacers. It saves you having to buy new wheels (since you don't want).
I believe they go for around $80-100
I believe they go for around $80-100
Please stop telling me to buy new wheels. I've already said I do not want to to do that. It's upgrading to the 5.5 brakes or sticking with the 5.0 gen setup. How many times do I have to say it? I also do not want to buy wheel spacers. /rant
I have been happy with hawk hps pads (currently not running them because I got too good of a deal on my monroe ceramics when doing the 6th gen bbk). One thing with hawks is that they put out a lot of dust. Just be prepared for that.
fyi: i sold my 16" maxima wheels w/tires for $225 to some altima owner who's car went offroad and damaged 3 wheels. I purchased 04 SL 17" wheels on craigslist for $250. Sold the tires which came with the wheels for $50. Made $25 on the entire swap, but had to buy new tires (expensive!). The reason I am suggesting this option to you since you can swap your tires over.
fyi: i sold my 16" maxima wheels w/tires for $225 to some altima owner who's car went offroad and damaged 3 wheels. I purchased 04 SL 17" wheels on craigslist for $250. Sold the tires which came with the wheels for $50. Made $25 on the entire swap, but had to buy new tires (expensive!). The reason I am suggesting this option to you since you can swap your tires over.
Last edited by unrealii; Mar 4, 2010 at 09:11 AM.
Have you considered doing the 6th gen BBK and simply adding a 5mm spacer to your stock wheels for clearance?
One rotor which is affordable and great quality is Centric Premium, the hubs (IIRc and vanes too) are painted black so no ugly rust occurs. Hawk HPS is good but unless you are going to use them i.e. hard braking from high speeds you can easily settle for something cheaper like Axxis Ultimates or Hawk ceramic...etc.
One rotor which is affordable and great quality is Centric Premium, the hubs (IIRc and vanes too) are painted black so no ugly rust occurs. Hawk HPS is good but unless you are going to use them i.e. hard braking from high speeds you can easily settle for something cheaper like Axxis Ultimates or Hawk ceramic...etc.
To answer your original question, yes - all you need to do the 5.5Gen swap is the caliper brackets. I'm the OP in the other thread you referenced. I used ATE Powerslot rotors and ceramic pads from Advance Auto Parts. I did do a pad change after a HARD track day about a month after I first did the swap, but I did not have the rotors turned. 2 years and 50K miles later, still NO warpage or discernable rotor wear, or even rust on the rotors!
Have you considered doing the 6th gen BBK and simply adding a 5mm spacer to your stock wheels for clearance?
One rotor which is affordable and great quality is Centric Premium, the hubs (IIRc and vanes too) are painted black so no ugly rust occurs. Hawk HPS is good but unless you are going to use them i.e. hard braking from high speeds you can easily settle for something cheaper like Axxis Ultimates or Hawk ceramic...etc.
One rotor which is affordable and great quality is Centric Premium, the hubs (IIRc and vanes too) are painted black so no ugly rust occurs. Hawk HPS is good but unless you are going to use them i.e. hard braking from high speeds you can easily settle for something cheaper like Axxis Ultimates or Hawk ceramic...etc.
brembo blanks get good reviews, i have the ATE slotted rotors and so far so good. I have Haws hps pads and love them but the Axxis pads are good as well from what i have read here
I've also heard reports of hawk pads not aging well at all. Apparently they lose their bite.
With how most of these cars are used i see no reason to spend a fortune on brake pads.
Brembo Blanks, Akebono pads
Like many I used to have the same warping/shudder problem. I got a set of brembo blanks and had the Axxis Ultimate pads (group buy) - lots of dust though. Recently switched to Akebono Ceramic pads and have been really happy with them. Great stopping and literally no noticable dust. Better than OEM I would think for most uses - I don't take my 5th gen to the track.
Not sure you'll get a huge difference when upgrading to a 6th Gen kit over a really good set of 5.0 gen quality brake parts....So if you're trying to save money and keep your wheels spend the money on quality 5.0 parts...IMHO.
Not sure you'll get a huge difference when upgrading to a 6th Gen kit over a really good set of 5.0 gen quality brake parts....So if you're trying to save money and keep your wheels spend the money on quality 5.0 parts...IMHO.
Think I'm going to go with the zinc coated brembo blanks in the group deal. Now I just need to decide on pads. Looks like the Hawk HPS fit my driving style the best. Don't think I need ceramics.
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