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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 12:26 AM
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Whats all this silly talk about a Max with bolt ons can keep up with a G8 GT? lol

Only Max on here that stands a chance is Chernmax
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 01:20 AM
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 02:02 AM
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pillar tape removed? is that a mod?

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You are on crack. A STOCK G8 GT has 355hp, if you want the GTP version, that has 415. You would have to have a very highly modded Max to even come close to a G8 GT.
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BLACKNESS MONSTA
Whats all this silly talk about a Max with bolt ons can keep up with a G8 GT? lol

Only Max on here that stands a chance is Chernmax
Best stock time that i have found is a 13.50, I can do that along with 47 other max's on here according to the timeslip database

BTW, you need to get out more. Chern isnt even the fastest max on this site

As a disclaimer, I really like the G8's. I would seriously consider trading the max for one if that option came up. Im just a bigger fan of the truth than of G8's

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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 02:48 AM
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02 Maxima SE 6MT: 0-60 in 6.3 seconds, 1/4 mile in 14.9 seconds at 95.6 mph

08 Pontiac G8 GT: 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, 1/4 mile in 13.6 seconds at 105 mph

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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BLACKNESS MONSTA
Whats all this silly talk about a Max with bolt ons can keep up with a G8 GT? lol

Only Max on here that stands a chance is Chernmax
lol, a full bolt-on 5.5 gens runs times that are faster than a G8, it wont take boost to beat one, Sparks and Jay_Pee can both possibly bust 12s on street tires.
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 04:59 AM
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im sure drunkie is guna have some good input on this one lol
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BLACKNESS MONSTA
02 Maxima SE 6MT: 0-60 in 6.3 seconds, 1/4 mile in 14.9 seconds at 95.6 mph

08 Pontiac G8 GT: 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, 1/4 mile in 13.6 seconds at 105 mph

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LOL

guess you've never seen jay_pee's N/A 12 second pass with just bolt on's
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 05:37 AM
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im sure drunkie is guna have some good input on this one lol
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 05:59 AM
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LOL

guess you've never seen jay_pee's N/A 12 second pass with just bolt on's
Yep... just boltons and tune and these cars can trap 105-109 (skill makes a big diff here) and ET low 13s on street tires. Jay's 12.58 was done on DRs, though.
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BLACKNESS MONSTA
02 Maxima SE 6MT: 0-60 in 6.3 seconds, 1/4 mile in 14.9 seconds at 95.6 mph

08 Pontiac G8 GT: 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, 1/4 mile in 13.6 seconds at 105 mph

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Umm, No.


http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...iac-g8-gt.html

This was posted before in this thread

Has the G8 GT:

0-60: 5.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.95 at 101.3

Actually kind of disappointing for a 360 hp, 385 lb-ft V8. Barely out of the 14's.

Faster than a stock Max, of course... but certainly not out of its reach. Although it is silly to think there are "tons of maximas" that could beat it... of all maximas out there, probably 0.0003% of them could do better.
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Rydicule
Umm, No.


http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...iac-g8-gt.html

This was posted before in this thread

Has the G8 GT:

0-60: 5.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.95 at 101.3

Actually kind of disappointing for a 360 hp, 385 lb-ft V8. Barely out of the 14's.

Faster than a stock Max, of course... but certainly not out of its reach. Although it is silly to think there are "tons of maximas" that could beat it... of all maximas out there, probably 0.0003% of them could do better.
It is heavy thou, i believe it tips the scales at 3900lbs
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Crusher103
It is heavy thou, i believe it tips the scales at 3900lbs
Base 3.6L V6 - 3885lbs
GT 6.0L V8 - 3995lbs
GXP 6.2L V8 - 4050lbs

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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 07:33 AM
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Just like everything else, it depends on who did the test. Car and Driver got a 0-60 in 5.2 w/13.8 quarter for the G8. This is really a joke as far as performance goes though. I had a nicely modded 2k2 Maxima, a 2k7 G35S Sedan and now a G8 GT. The power from the L76 is simply in another league, especially when mods are introduced. Mods are extremely cheap for the G8 and they add tremendous power. Long Tube headers add 45 rwhp. A simple tune with CAI can add 35+ rwhp, and the list goes on and on. Stock for stock there's no comparison and mod for mod there's no comparison. Not trying to bash here. I absolutely loved my 2k2 Maxima and was saddened the day someone hit me and totaled it. I loved my G35S as well, but the power and torque output of the LSx motors is simply breath taking to say the least.
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Virus
Just like everything else, it depends on who did the test. Car and Driver got a 0-60 in 5.2 w/13.8 quarter for the G8. This is really a joke as far as performance goes though. I had a nicely modded 2k2 Maxima, a 2k7 G35S Sedan and now a G8 GT. The power from the L76 is simply in another league, especially when mods are introduced. Mods are extremely cheap for the G8 and they add tremendous power. Long Tube headers add 45 rwhp. A simple tune with CAI can add 35+ rwhp, and the list goes on and on. Stock for stock there's no comparison and mod for mod there's no comparison. Not trying to bash here. I absolutely loved my 2k2 Maxima and was saddened the day someone hit me and totaled it. I loved my G35S as well, but the power and torque output of the LSx motors is simply breath taking to say the least.
I agree with what you are saying, but the comparison that is being made is a STOCK G8 vs a full bolton/tuned 5.5.

Nobody is saying a Maxima will keep up mod for mod, we aren't that stupid. It's cute of you to take it that way, though
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Virus
Just like everything else, it depends on who did the test. Car and Driver got a 0-60 in 5.2 w/13.8 quarter for the G8. This is really a joke as far as performance goes though. I had a nicely modded 2k2 Maxima, a 2k7 G35S Sedan and now a G8 GT. The power from the L76 is simply in another league, especially when mods are introduced. Mods are extremely cheap for the G8 and they add tremendous power. Long Tube headers add 45 rwhp. A simple tune with CAI can add 35+ rwhp, and the list goes on and on. Stock for stock there's no comparison and mod for mod there's no comparison. Not trying to bash here. I absolutely loved my 2k2 Maxima and was saddened the day someone hit me and totaled it. I loved my G35S as well, but the power and torque output of the LSx motors is simply breath taking to say the least.
i find it hard to believe that simple bolt on mods like that can add that much HP. following that philosophy you can get close to 450+ hp. Maybe im wrong (i tend to be a lot) but that sounds nuts

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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by NissanMan97
i find it hard to believe that simple bolt on mods like that can add that much HP. following that philosophy you can get close to 450+ hp. Maybe im wrong (i tend to be a lot) but that sounds nuts

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I don't know how big the gains seen with bolt-ons in the GM motors are, but I know my friend's LT-1 Camaro gained about 30 HP just from a solid dyno-tune.
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by NissanMan97
i find it hard to believe that simple bolt on mods like that can add that much HP. following that philosophy you can get close to 450+ hp. Maybe im wrong (i tend to be a lot) but that sounds nuts

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A head/cam/bolton (long tubes)/tune LSX can top 500whp N/A. Most H/C/bolton are around 420-480whp, though.
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 08:12 AM
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A head/cam/bolton (long tubes)/tune LSX can top 500whp N/A. Most H/C/bolton are around 420-480whp, though.
see heads and cam along with boltons i can believe. but just headers, CAI and tune adding 80+hp. that sounds WAY to good to be true.

again following that logic you could add that crap to the new 5.0 mustang and be close to 600hp. different car and motor so maybe not but im not to crazy to make an assumption like that

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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Rydicule
Umm, No.


http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...iac-g8-gt.html

This was posted before in this thread

Has the G8 GT:

0-60: 5.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.95 at 101.3

Actually kind of disappointing for a 360 hp, 385 lb-ft V8. Barely out of the 14's.

Faster than a stock Max, of course... but certainly not out of its reach. Although it is silly to think there are "tons of maximas" that could beat it... of all maximas out there, probably 0.0003% of them could do better.
13.95 LOL...That is really sad. I guess weight makes a huge difference, My old CBR 929 weighed in at 582 lb with me on it w/128hp and I ran 10.53 @ 139, Probably could have done 9's w/a few more mods.
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for those of u that are wondering how it gets so much power off of simple bolt ons, the LSX has a pretty high compression ratio, its equal to the VQ and then its displacement is also high, so just getting it to breath is going to make a dramatic difference in power.
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This is all BS.
ANY maxima can take a G8 GT without a problem, mods or not.
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lol, a full bolt-on 5.5 gens runs times that are faster than a G8, it wont take boost to beat one, Sparks and Jay_Pee can both possibly bust 12s on street tires.
I ran one from a light before I got the SSIM/Z injectors and 3" exhaust and we were even til about 80 when we couldn't keep going because of traffic. It didn't seem that fast, but it is a heavy ******.

My buddy has a Trailblazer SS and I can keep up with him after the new mods (not from a roll, of course) but thats like 5500lbs or something nuts like that.

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This is all BS.
ANY maxima can take a G8 GT without a problem, mods or not.
I agree, stock 1st gen would wipe the floor with that G8 GT
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 09:38 AM
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Yo Brett, Mike did tell me he had a run in with a G8 today

Thug-life over here....





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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 09:41 AM
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This is all BS.
ANY maxima can take a G8 GT without a problem, mods or not.
hell yea especially those AT 4th gens with an intake and strut bar, jesus those things are quick:

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see heads and cam along with boltons i can believe. but just headers, CAI and tune adding 80+hp. that sounds WAY to good to be true.

again following that logic you could add that crap to the new 5.0 mustang and be close to 600hp. different car and motor so maybe not but im not to crazy to make an assumption like that

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Yes, headers+exhaust, CAI, and tune can add 80WHP to most stock LSX options. You have to consider it's a large displacement engine, and their stock equipment is not nearly as efficient as the stock equipment of our VQs.

Also, you are mistaking wheel HP and crank HP. The new mustang 5.0 will probably be roughly equal with a LS2 for wheel horse power... That 400 number is crank HP. The 5.0 is also smaller displacement and more efficient in stock form (not as likely to gain from mods).

You can't apply the "same logic" to every platform. Nobody is saying you should. It just so happens that the stock manifolds/intake and tune on most stock LSX applications are restrictive and can allow for huge gains with the right aftermarket parts.

Proof can easily be shown by bolton-only LS1 F-bodies running 11s, cam+bolton-only running 10s... While stock LS1 F-bodies tend to run mid/low 13s with some high 12s. Plus all the dynos that can be found on LS1tech proving large gains on minor boltons and tune.
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Yes, headers+exhaust, CAI, and tune can add 80WHP to most stock LSX options. You have to consider it's a large displacement engine, and their stock equipment is not nearly as efficient as the stock equipment of our VQs.

Also, you are mistaking wheel HP and crank HP. The new mustang 5.0 will probably be roughly equal with a LS2 for wheel horse power... That 400 number is crank HP. The 5.0 is also smaller displacement and more efficient in stock form (not as likely to gain from mods).

You can't apply the "same logic" to every platform. Nobody is saying you should. It just so happens that the stock manifolds/intake and tune on most stock LSX applications are restrictive and can allow for huge gains with the right aftermarket parts.

Proof can easily be shown by bolton-only LS1 F-bodies running 11s, cam+bolton-only running 10s... While stock LS1 F-bodies tend to run mid/low 13s with some high 12s. Plus all the dynos that can be found on LS1tech proving large gains on minor boltons and tune.
Here is an example of the G8 GT dyno
Headers + Tune:


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Here is stock vs Intake vs Intake + Tune:

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Shouldn't this thread be moved to the Other Cars forum? Why is a street-race thread still here... about a Pontiac, no less?

I've test-driven the G8-GT, and sure, it's fast. It's also fat, with sloppy fit-n-finish. Typical GM, Australian build notwithstanding.
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Here is stock vs Intake vs Intake + Tune:

That's impressive for just an intake and a tune. I remember feeling a lot more power and responsiveness out of my Trans Am after I swapped in the ram air box, too.
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Shouldn't this thread be moved to the Other Cars forum? Why is a street-race thread still here... about a Pontiac, no less?

I've test-driven the G8-GT, and sure, it's fast. It's also fat, with sloppy fit-n-finish. Typical GM, Australian build notwithstanding.
Well, it started out as a 5.5 vs G8 thread.

People are trying to debate what's faster now, I guess.
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 10:54 AM
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Even the 7th gen is 0.5+ seconds slower to 60 mph:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._g8/index.html
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This is all BS.
ANY maxima can take a G8 GT without a problem, mods or not.
Didn't realize all Max's did high 13's
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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lmao @ this thread.
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im sure drunkie is guna have some good input on this one lol
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I already did
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Lets keep beating this discussion to death....who really cares.

I'm sure there are plenty of Maxima's on the org that are faster than the G8 or my Grand Prix, so be it. When you have to argue to death about how this car is that and this car is this and it no longer becomes fun....then what's the point?
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i just raced in my super-cool intake only auto 4th gen against a G8 GT that was parked in a parking lot.....yea i won.

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