Windows Up w/ Remote?
04-13-2010, 04:52 AM
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Windows Up w/ Remote?
OK, so I know the two front windows go down if you hold the unlock button on the remote (on 5th gens at least) but I'm sitting here in my office on the 4th floor of my building and just accidently put my windows down. Had to go all the way back down to the car to put them up. Pissed me off.
Has anyone ever come up with a way to make them roll up from the remote? They'll go up if you hold your key in the lock position in the door, so I would imagine there's a way to make them go up with the remote (and without the $150 module from KP Electronics.)
Any thoughts? I've searched and found nothing.
Has anyone ever come up with a way to make them roll up from the remote? They'll go up if you hold your key in the lock position in the door, so I would imagine there's a way to make them go up with the remote (and without the $150 module from KP Electronics.)
Any thoughts? I've searched and found nothing.
04-13-2010, 05:18 AM
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OK, so I know the two front windows go down if you hold the unlock button on the remote (on 5th gens at least) but I'm sitting here in my office on the 4th floor of my building and just accidently put my windows down. Had to go all the way back down to the car to put them up. Pissed me off.
Has anyone ever come up with a way to make them roll up from the remote? They'll go up if you hold your key in the lock position in the door, so I would imagine there's a way to make them go up with the remote (and without the $150 module from KP Electronics.)
Any thoughts? I've searched and found nothing.
Has anyone ever come up with a way to make them roll up from the remote? They'll go up if you hold your key in the lock position in the door, so I would imagine there's a way to make them go up with the remote (and without the $150 module from KP Electronics.)
Any thoughts? I've searched and found nothing.
04-13-2010, 06:00 AM
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I remember reading about these here on the forum, not sure if anyone's ever used it that can comment...
http://www.kptechnologies.com/products.php#/17
http://www.kptechnologies.com/products.php#/17
04-13-2010, 06:11 AM
#4
It's funny you write about this. I just had this conversation with my wife. I previously had an 06 350z and now have a 2010 Maxima and I still wonder why if they can make it go down with unlock, why not up with lock? Makes sense to me. I would love that feature.
04-13-2010, 07:54 AM
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I thought that was a feature that was skipped on the 5th generations (at least mine doesn't do it, but my '98 used to have it). Is that from the stock remote?
Wish it did though...
04-13-2010, 11:40 AM
#10
And yeah, my front windows roll down with the key fob. Sometimes they only roll down 4 inches and I have to do it twice to get them to roll down all the way. Sometimes they go all the way on the first try. Almost 8 years now, and I still can't figure out what the difference is.
04-13-2010, 11:49 AM
#11
Stick your key in, and depending on the way you turn it (assuming they're not already up or down) they will go up or down, depending on the way/direction (CW/CCW) you turn the key.
00-01 skipped out on this 'feature'.
I know you can roll down from the remote from 95-99 and 02-03, but I'm not sure if the 4th gen has the key twist up/down option.
00-01 skipped out on this 'feature'.
I know you can roll down from the remote from 95-99 and 02-03, but I'm not sure if the 4th gen has the key twist up/down option.
04-13-2010, 11:58 AM
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And yeah, my front windows roll down with the key fob. Sometimes they only roll down 4 inches and I have to do it twice to get them to roll down all the way. Sometimes they go all the way on the first try. Almost 8 years now, and I still can't figure out what the difference is.
04-13-2010, 12:05 PM
#13
Every time I use the remote to lower the windows, I have this pregnant pause waiting for them to stop at 4". When it stops, it's obviously annoying. And when it goes all the way, it's like, "Why did it work that time?"
As to the key manually working the windows, I can't wait for the day to end and try it out. I love learning something new about my car, particularly after all these years.
04-13-2010, 12:22 PM
#14
If i remember correctly, the 4" and all the way down difference is the length of the hold on the unlock button. I think the car manual says 3 seconds will drop them 4" and if you hold longer it will go all the way down until the button is released. Seems to work this way for me. Maybe its just coincidence?
04-13-2010, 12:30 PM
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If i remember correctly, the 4" and all the way down difference is the length of the hold on the unlock button. I think the car manual says 3 seconds will drop them 4" and if you hold longer it will go all the way down until the button is released. Seems to work this way for me. Maybe its just coincidence?
04-13-2010, 12:57 PM
#16
It's almost as if the car has a temper that day...sometimes it'll let you go all the way, but other times it doesn't wanna cooperate..baffles me also
04-13-2010, 01:02 PM
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04-13-2010, 01:33 PM
#19
For me it depends on weather I have the doors locked or unlocked. If I long hold while the doors are locked then it only goes down 4". If I unlock the doors (all four) and then hold the unlock they go down all the way. The only deviation is if the door has already been unlocked sometimes it does the 4" sometimes it goes all the way.
04-13-2010, 01:43 PM
#20
lol yes exactly!
Ahem..back on topic lol...I know if my car sits for a while (when the modules go into sleep mode) the windows will only go down a little, but if the car is "awake" they go down just fine. I've also noticed that if the car is "sleeping" that sometimes I can only press unlock once - that is, if I press it multiple times it won't unlock all doors, until after a few seconds, then it works fine. Almost like a yawn. Go figure
Ahem..back on topic lol...I know if my car sits for a while (when the modules go into sleep mode) the windows will only go down a little, but if the car is "awake" they go down just fine. I've also noticed that if the car is "sleeping" that sometimes I can only press unlock once - that is, if I press it multiple times it won't unlock all doors, until after a few seconds, then it works fine. Almost like a yawn. Go figure
04-13-2010, 02:02 PM
#21
I just tried the manual method, with the key in the lock... and the windows rolled up! That is so cool. I never knew it would do that. Then again, I don't think I ever actually put the key in the lock before.
Does it roll up all 4 windows, or just the front? (Lazy question, I know.)
Does it roll up all 4 windows, or just the front? (Lazy question, I know.)
04-13-2010, 02:49 PM
#23
It depends on how many times you press the button. It also seems there's a certain speed/duration you have to hit. I can roll the windows down all the way by hitting it 3 times fast and holding the 3rd push (obviously). Does it work every time? No. Pushing it twice usually brings it down 4".
It's just finicky :shrugs:
It's just finicky :shrugs:
04-13-2010, 03:03 PM
#24
I just tried the manual method, with the key in the lock... and the windows rolled up! That is so cool. I never knew it would do that. Then again, I don't think I ever actually put the key in the lock before.
Does it roll up all 4 windows, or just the front? (Lazy question, I know.)
Does it roll up all 4 windows, or just the front? (Lazy question, I know.)
Nice to learn something new after having the car for how long eh?
04-13-2010, 06:05 PM
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... I want a 5.5th gen!!!...
04-13-2010, 08:14 PM
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Wow. I didn't think that question would generate this many responses. haha.
Its funny though, I asked the dealer when I got my car why they don't go up with the remote and he said its a safety issue. I didn't think anything about it until yesterday when I remembered there's an auto-up feature anyway. Whats the difference if you do it from a remote or from inside the car? If your child's head is sticking out the window, it "should" stop and roll back down no matter what.
There is a way to do this. I'm sure of it. The only thing that could possibly hinder it is the remote itself. When you hold the unlock button the remote is constantly sending out a signal. The lock button (for putting the windows up) should theoretically be the same way.
There are two types of remote signals - those that are constant (transmits for as long as you're holding the button - similar to our remotes and the Homelink buttons) and there are single transmissions, meaning you can hold the button down, and only one signal gets sent for, say, a split second - like some TV remotes. Given that our key fobs send out continuous signals, I see no reason for it not to work this way if wired correctly.
All I need is a free weekend, some speaker wire, and electrical tape...
Its funny though, I asked the dealer when I got my car why they don't go up with the remote and he said its a safety issue. I didn't think anything about it until yesterday when I remembered there's an auto-up feature anyway. Whats the difference if you do it from a remote or from inside the car? If your child's head is sticking out the window, it "should" stop and roll back down no matter what.
There is a way to do this. I'm sure of it. The only thing that could possibly hinder it is the remote itself. When you hold the unlock button the remote is constantly sending out a signal. The lock button (for putting the windows up) should theoretically be the same way.
There are two types of remote signals - those that are constant (transmits for as long as you're holding the button - similar to our remotes and the Homelink buttons) and there are single transmissions, meaning you can hold the button down, and only one signal gets sent for, say, a split second - like some TV remotes. Given that our key fobs send out continuous signals, I see no reason for it not to work this way if wired correctly.
All I need is a free weekend, some speaker wire, and electrical tape...
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04-13-2010, 09:56 PM
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Wow. I didn't think that question would generate this many responses. haha.
Its funny though, I asked the dealer when I got my car why they don't go up with the remote and he said its a safety issue. I didn't think anything about it until yesterday when I remembered there's an auto-up feature anyway. Whats the difference if you do it from a remote or from inside the car? If your child's head is sticking out the window, it "should" stop and roll back down no matter what.
There is a way to do this. I'm sure of it. The only thing that could possibly hinder it is the remote itself. When you hold the unlock button the remote is constantly sending out a signal. The lock button (for putting the windows up) should theoretically be the same way.
There are two types of remote signals - those that are constant (transmits for as long as you're holding the button - similar to our remotes and the Homelink buttons) and there are single transmissions, meaning you can hold the button down, and only one signal gets sent for, say, a split second - like some TV remotes. Given that our key fobs send out continuous signals, I see no reason for it not to work this way if wired correctly.
All I need is a free weekend, some speaker wire, and electrical tape...
Its funny though, I asked the dealer when I got my car why they don't go up with the remote and he said its a safety issue. I didn't think anything about it until yesterday when I remembered there's an auto-up feature anyway. Whats the difference if you do it from a remote or from inside the car? If your child's head is sticking out the window, it "should" stop and roll back down no matter what.
There is a way to do this. I'm sure of it. The only thing that could possibly hinder it is the remote itself. When you hold the unlock button the remote is constantly sending out a signal. The lock button (for putting the windows up) should theoretically be the same way.
There are two types of remote signals - those that are constant (transmits for as long as you're holding the button - similar to our remotes and the Homelink buttons) and there are single transmissions, meaning you can hold the button down, and only one signal gets sent for, say, a split second - like some TV remotes. Given that our key fobs send out continuous signals, I see no reason for it not to work this way if wired correctly.
All I need is a free weekend, some speaker wire, and electrical tape...
Come to think of it, the window's opening function is controlled by the smart entrance control unit. My guess is we'd need to find a way to trick it into reversing the signals from the SEC module when the lock signal is transmitted.
From the FSM:
Door Lock/Unlock and front power window down signal is supplied through smart entrance control unit terminal 33 to front power window main switch terminal 8 and to front power window switch RH terminal 11.
Now, thinking again..seeing as how you can insert the key in the door cylinder, turn to the lock position, and roll up the window..I wonder if it's easily possible to somehow use a jumper wire to simulate the "key in door" action by using the door lock actuator...like...if holding the lock button on the remote were to generate a continuous signal to the lock actuator, which is jumped to the LOCK position in the door cylinder...maybe? I don't know, just trying to throw some ideas out there...If any of that seemed confusing, well..it's late
haha
04-13-2010, 09:57 PM
#32
Long story short, find a wire that generates a constant voltage when the LOCK button on the remote is pressed, jump that to the circuit for the door cylinder, and voila. I'm gonna have to try it tomorrow if I have time.
04-13-2010, 11:55 PM
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Dude. I think I love you.
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04-14-2010, 06:07 AM
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I use to offer this back in the day, but no one was interested in it so I stopped. It was a KPTechnologies module. I offered it when it was around 50.00 or so, but now sure what it's at now. I love mine and use it pretty much every single time I get out of my car with my windows down.
Some of the links in this thread are dead or changed cause it's an old thread.
http://forums.maxima.org/general-max...ule-02-up.html
Some of the links in this thread are dead or changed cause it's an old thread.
http://forums.maxima.org/general-max...ule-02-up.html
