iam looking for the thread that talks about a 2008 tl vs a 5.5gen max but i cant find it. This thread also shows a discussion on acurazine as well.

 

They talk about an 06', don't know if there is one about an 08'.

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...o-vs-maxs.html

 

08 and 06 Tl's are the same thing performance wise same motor

 

5.5 max 6 speed will kill a 2008 TL because the Tl's only come in auto that year. but if you get the 2008 TL Type S that can come in a 6 speed, its pretty much drivers race between type s 6 speed and 5.5 max 6 speed

 

wow really? i always kinda feared those type-s TL's (in my M of course). thought they were a little quicker than that. maybe they just look intimidating.

 

yea mann lol there pretty quick but nothing a 6 speed max couldnt handle

 

Before I read this I was just goint to say there was a thread floating around about that... (though I don't think it was thread worthy to ask for another thread when everyone has the same resources) a 5.5 6spd takes em all from TL'P to TL'S, however I believe the TL has the edge on a maxima up top I'm sure others will tell me how I'm wrong cause their jet powered maxima left a stock TL... these are more the talks found on acurazine as they seem to care about maxima's more than we do to them... you may find a lot morre threads there about that

 

raced a regular TL with an intake. ive got a 02 and at the time i had only intake/catback/res del.. race was legit from a dig w flagger n all... jumped the guy a car out of the hole, and another fender-half car through second... but man... when i hit third the max does what it usually does n falls on its face... and the acura did what i thought it would do.. left me at 80 mph and dissapeared like a Z06 from there.... sissy a$$ auto!!!

 

i think its funny that here on the .org, most of the 5.5's claim to take out any TL-s (manual of course) and on acurazine TL-s take out any 5.5.
i think both cars are fairly matched in power and weight and i dont see one being able to take out the other with ease.

 

True true, manual to manual they are real close. Auto to Auto, Max auto's tend to be a tad quicker. TL auto's are dogs down low to mid (4th gear they fall flat on there face). Maxima's are good low to mid, decent up top.

 

Thats the truth and every other VQ powered car including 370/350's, G's, Alti's etc....They tend to have ton's of encounters with our family of cars, like hustle said it seems like very other thred is I ran a Z, I ran a Max etc.....

 

thats because your a 4spd auto and he's a 5spd auto..

 

Funny, im in nj and take the GSP to and from work (30mi one way)...And it seems like I come across a TLs that wants to run every other week...Though i dont encourage high way runs, i must say I only lost once and that was cuz i missed third, but hey no excuses...it's a pretty even match i think....

 

Thats why everybody should get a 4th gen.

 

^^^^^^^^^^

with a 00VI swap right ?

 

who the hell cares about racing 4 door family cars unless its a CTS-V or a G8 GXP. They are both going to be slow and if you want it to go somewhat fast you sacrifice allot of the things that make the car a nice family car.

 

.....talk about slow....a CTS-V and a G8. please.

i'd rather get German built E55 AMG or an M5 if im gonna start dumping cash and wanna fast 4 door.

and the German's arent really sacrifing anything to make it a family car. test drove a CLS 55 AMG and man! that's a car! (and a tad out of my price range)

 

i have a 5.5 6 speed max fully loaded my brother has a 6 speed TL fully loaded, stock for stock its pretty much drivers race now were both basically fully bolted i pull about a half car, fender ishh. a regular 6 speed Tl isnt much slower than the type s 6 speed. Quickest 1/4 mile run in a stock 6 speed TL was 14.1 quickest 1/4 mile run in a stock 6 speed Tl S is a 14.0. Reason why a auto tl isnt too fast in 4th gear is becuse it doesnt land in Vtec range it falls on its face, but with a 6 speed it lands in vtec nd its pretty quick. but once agian 6 speed max vs 6 speed tl is a drivers race. auto vs auto the maxima tends to be a bit quicker

 

Is this sarcasm??? Please tell me it is

 

I hate that mentality. I could say the same thing about any car...

"What's the point of racing you're Corvette and GTR when you can just get a McLaren F1?!?!?!?"

The point is, is that everything is relative. Yeah, the Maxima may be "slow" compared to some cars, but a low 14 second car is still faster than 80% of the cars on the road today.

 

That's the best way anyone could have said it.... its so pointless when people say crap like that... compare a friggin faimily sedan that is probebly 10G's at most to the top of the line sport sedan that's well over 35K another peeve of mines... very well said bro

 

Yea, but most of that is fan boy talk.... maxima's edge the TL in a 1/4mile while the TL edges the maxima up top, honda's normally make better power in the higher RPM's

 

thats true i beat an auto 06 tl at the track and beat him everytime with my auto but i could see how he could pass me up top wit that extra gear

 

Yay, I posted street racing vids...

 

I totally agree with ya unklejoe.......

people are forgetting that an 02 maxima...a now 8 year old car....is still a serious threat with the power it puts down through a 6-speed...yeah it may not have all of the newer technology that the new cars have.....but in its day-view...it was a beast....it was spanking many cars that it was not qualified to get in the ring with based on class......the new max is very nice and has serious potential......but I am saddened that Nissan forewent the 6-speed option in favor of the CVT which really limits the cars potential....I hope they come to their senses and offer a manual with the refresh....but the CVT only deal in THAT car was a letdown in my opinion.....I know I know I went off topic....before all you CVT lovers start hating...i like the CVT...but in certain applications...I really liked it in my Murano when I had it...but I think that ANY sport version of the maxima should have a 6-speed available as an option......

 

^^^ and that's the one they choose to call a sport sedan car

 

My car had a 100 wet shot on it and it was slow as hell still. So dont preach to me about the "capabilities of the car" and all that b.s. Im not going to gut a maxima and turn it into a dedicated race car, it better be fast if you go to those extents.

The point in racing a corvettes and GTR's? Lol well seeing as how they have factory backed race cars I would say its a pretty good idea.

A nitrous kit (HSW or NO)a set of drag radials, and maybe a camshaft and you have an easy low 11 second car. Yeah I would reccomend an E55 or an M5 to anyone who likes to have their car in the dealership service bay often, and im comparing that to a cts-v.

I fully understand the viewpoint of racing someone in TL for ****s and giggles, but really record a video and post it on the internet. Who cares, it amazes me how serious its taken. "Oh crap its a TL v6 on the interstate, lets try to instigate a race against it."

Maxima's make great bracket racing cars though lol. I won plenty of money bracket racing mine. Slow and consistent.

 

your above statement makes no sense.

1. why waste money putting all that crap on a car when bone stock E55's run those times nearly bone stock??? (with a warranty i might add)

2. ...and you don't think your CTS-V isn't gonna be in the shop due to repairs when you start tinkering with it?
and what do you think is gonna happen when the service advisor pops the hood and sees your N20 kit in plain sight (not to mention a lopey idle depending on what cam you choose).

3. you do all those mods just to take on a bone stock E55, what do think is gonna happen when the E55 decides to up it's boost? i think you can figure the rest out on your own.

 

Just my experience w/ the TL guys in Houston.

I don't really have any crazy mods buuut...

Stock 6spd > My max (runs me down in the last 1/8th of the 1/4)
My max > 2g TL-S (a modded 2g TL-S got me though)
My Max > 3g TL 6spd
My max > 3g TL-S (He was closing on me like a fright train though, if we did a highway roll it'd be a completely different story)

I could go into more detail, but in the end Maxima > TL, unless the TL has an epic driver mod.

Of course this was all done on the track



I have no idea why this thread turned into a discussion about E55s....

PS. That thread in 06 on Acurazine is the reason why I'm here today, I picked up my first Maxima and joined here not too long after.

 

same reason i have no idea why CTS-V's and G8's got brought up. i thought we were supposed to be talking about TL's and 5.5's?

 

Just stating my point even though its OT, but LS motors are cake to work on (unless you have an Fbody) and parts are very easy to get. I have done just about anything you can name to one of those motors atleast once in a garage. Its an improved dinosaur motor that was designed in the 40's. Also not too many 1st gen Ctsv's aren't under warranty anymore.

I worked for MB as an entry level tech for a few months to get my feet wet and honestly I can say they are not very easy to work in general on compared to the infiniti you drive now. Not knocking an E55 AMG either it is a nice & quick car.

Also pm me a link to some e55's running low 11's as in ~11.3 bone stock as you said.

 

Ive beat my share of TLs, I have yet to race a 6mt Type-S

 

agreed on that. i've owned 3 camaros (1 LT1 and 2 LS1's) they are fairly easy to work on. i did a cam swap on both (with a little help i might add)

agreed but dont tell chevy owners that! they hate it! but you can't complain. one of the fastest chevy's ever produced is a pushrod! (LS9)

agreed on that. but the power those AMG's produce is amazing. the V8 in my M is just a VQ with 2 more cylinders. little less complex than a MB.


i said "nearly" bone stock. PM'd you.

 

A little back on point to the original question; a lot of the "newer" Maximas FEEL slower because of having a CVT. Whereas having infinite gear ratios will speed the car up you never get the jolt back quite like you do in a car with a standard transfer box. Every time I drive an 09 Max I'm never as thrilled as in my 03. Just my 2c...

 

o0o one of these threads is back.....

 

Our long 3rd gear isn't optimal for top end acceleration until you get above 80. Sort of a flat spot from 70-80 or so.

 

Got a customer with a 1000 hp twin turbo Ford GT that hit 224 this year in the Texas Mile. Roll-on acceleration with Hoosier R6's that hook is incredible. We went from 50-160 in something like 8-9 seconds. That car would pull bus lengths on a McLaren.

Too bad he holed a piston on the next run. Car is back at Dallas Performance getting a stronger block, pistons, crank, etc along with some added displacement, more cam, etc. Shooting for 1400-1500 hp.

Of course, I have no problem beating him in my Maxma.

Actually, he had an Acura TL for a while (daily driver) that he wanted to race me in but we never got around to it.

 

Mullet/Joe Dirt?? If so it's TT+SC... And awesome.

NVM, Joe Dirt has a lambo as a DD lol.

 

Just snails on it. He was putting 1000 hp through the otherwise stock engine for 2 years including 2 trips to the Texas Mile. Unreal how hard it pulls. At 150 the acceleration is stronger than my car is at 20.

 

Sure there are faster sedans out there but low 14's stock... "slow" isn't really the right word. I didn't buy my maxima for racing but because it has good power and gets me 28-30 mpg highway and the CTS or GXP can't come close to that.