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Old 07-09-2010, 02:32 AM
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that 3.0 better have forced induction to beat a 3.5

and if you had the money to mod it...why wouldnt you just buy a 3.5
This.

It'll be every bolt on HP mod available to get that 30 BHP....the 3.5 will still be highway cruising in near silence, and the 3.0 will be droning along with headers, intake, exhaust...

Quiet is the new fast.

Also: Probably not a concern to the OP in Vegas, but HLSD rocks from a standstill in snow.
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Originally Posted by SteveB123
This.

It'll be every bolt on HP mod available to get that 30 BHP....the 3.5 will still be highway cruising in near silence, and the 3.0 will be droning along with headers, intake, exhaust...

Quiet is the new fast.

Also: Probably not a concern to the OP in Vegas, but HLSD rocks from a standstill in snow.
you know whats best in snow? my 4 wheel drive X

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that 3.0 better have forced induction to beat a 3.5

and if you had the money to mod it...why wouldnt you just buy a 3.5
lol i found a 03 6spd but non-lsd for $6500 but it has 136,000 miles on a engine replaced @ 76,000 miles would u say its a bang 4 yr buck deal
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Originally Posted by BronxSleeperMax187
If you got alot of $$$ to spend get A 5.5, if you got only $6000 get A 5gen and mod that biach and smoke every 5.5 you see that cost the same as your car after modding
If one were willing to drop that kind of dime they shouldn't opt for either car.
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Is it still irony when it's obvious? I just wrote a serious answer, champ.
you also just admitted that i am indeed the champ
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Originally Posted by anomaly117
you also just admitted that i am indeed the champ
Champ. Chump. Please forgive my misspeeling.
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Having owned a 00 5 spd SE and now my current 03 6 spd SE I can say without a doubt the 5.5 Gen with HLSD is the superior car. It only makes sense, its evolution. If you are in the Market for a Maxima then its worth the money for the 5.5

The diff argument?...Well that is mostly opinion again and how it plays out in drag racing is rather irrelevant when comparing the 2 generations of cars.

Does it work better at any point in time? Yes. In the wet and snow it hooks surprisingly well.

In my mind this means that it is an advantage and therefore better.
Look for and HLSD car, you won't regret it.
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^Evolution...6th gen superior to 5.5?? j/k
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^^^ 7th gen is superior to all
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Champ. Chump. Please forgive my misspeeling.
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As far as my uses for the car. I am a title runner so I drive around all day. In winter time I spend pretty much every weekend at some snow resort, usually big bear, ca. Whichever one I go to involves a lot of mountain climb driving and then driving in snow. What I don't do is really race anyone. I enjoy a powerful car and I will do some mods but not for the purpose of racing just for the purpose of making it a better car for the amount of time I spend driving.

Rochester: I did think your post was pretty good and convincing on looking for the 5.5
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^^^
Cool. Glad I could help, and thanks for saying so.
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Yeah especially the part about better mileage in 6th on the 5.5 as that is extremely relevant to me.
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Originally Posted by SteveB123
This.

It'll be every bolt on HP mod available to get that 30 BHP....the 3.5 will still be highway cruising in near silence, and the 3.0 will be droning along with headers, intake, exhaust...

Quiet is the new fast.

Also: Probably not a concern to the OP in Vegas, but HLSD rocks from a standstill in snow.
FAIL...you don't have to mod your car to sound like a ricer to increase hp. I can add all the things you mentioned except keep my stock exhaust and keep silent.
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Old 07-11-2010, 02:23 PM
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Funny thing you live in ROC, that is where I was staying when I bought this 95 I have now. I wrecked my 98 in Honeoye Falls very last snow storm of 07/08 winter.
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Originally Posted by ffcbairn
Yeah especially the part about better mileage in 6th on the 5.5 as that is extremely relevant to me.
Well, research that and confirm it. I'm not sure if that's entirely accurate. It might be more close to say that the 5.5 6MT got the same mileage as the 5.0 AT. Which is no small feat considering the added displacement.

I will say this, if you're highway driving all the time and you live in 6th gear, you should be hovering between 26-29 mpg. And a well modified car can actually get a few ticks better mileage then OEM.

Hmm, Honeoye Falls. Small world.

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Seems the 2001 SE 5AT got 21/27 mpg, and the 2003 SE 6MT got 21/28. This according to AutoTrader.

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hmm, i wonder if this thread will last for over 100 pages also?
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
hmm, i wonder if this thread will last for over 100 pages also?
In addition to the dozens of nearly identical threads that came before it, or do you have something specific in mind?
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Originally Posted by 2000_MAXIMA_KING
FAIL...you don't have to mod your car to sound like a ricer to increase hp. I can add all the things you mentioned except keep my stock exhaust and keep silent.
Ok, headers are silent now.
Cool.
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Old 07-11-2010, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
hmm, i wonder if this thread will last for over 100 pages also?
Originally Posted by Rochester
In addition to the dozens of nearly identical threads that came before it, or do you have something specific in mind?
Such as the sticky at the top of the page?


http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...info-here.html

I'm surprised this thread got to page 2 and nobody linked the sticky...

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Originally Posted by SoonerFan
Get back in here!
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One thing I haven't heard anyone mention is camshaft positions sensors on 5.5 gens... I had an 03 I35 and it seemed like I was putting a set in it all the time... 3 sets and I owned the car between 33k and 118k... maybe that's extreme, but I thought that was worth mentioning so that one could be prepared for that.

I never got to drive a 6mt 5.5, but I did step out of the I35 (automatic, softer suspension) and into a 5 speed 5th gen for a test drive and found myself wanting the older less powerful car.. just so much more personality.



Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
+10... oh is it just me or the turning radius way better on the 5th gen than it is the 5.5
I've only testdriven a 5th gen, but I remember that 5.5 turning like an aircraft carrier in parking maneuvers compared with 3rd and 4th gens I've owned.
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Originally Posted by SoonerFan


that 3.0 better have forced induction to beat a 3.5

and if you had the money to mod it...why wouldnt you just buy a 3.5
So with headers,y pipe,b-pipe and intake A 5gen can't beat A stock 5.5 gen?
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Get back in here!
you don't want soonerfail in here. trust me.
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Originally Posted by anomaly117
you don't want soonerfail in here. trust me.
Oh yes I do.
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Originally Posted by essential1
Get back in here!

Originally Posted by BronxSleeperMax187
So with headers,y pipe,b-pipe and intake A 5gen can't beat A stock 5.5 gen?
nope...sure cant...and headers are pointless on a 3.0...just need the ypipe
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^^^ I beg to differ
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:03 AM
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nope...sure cant...and headers are pointless on a 3.0...just need the ypipe
I've beaten one in mine with my heavy wheels and heavy brakes already.
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Headers + pointless = blasphemy
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Originally Posted by 2000_MAXIMA_KING
Don't underestimate the DEK
i owned one for 3 years
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I've beaten one in mine with my heavy wheels and heavy brakes already.
bad driver
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Originally Posted by SoonerFan
bad driver
Automagic

DEK is a good motor. But there is no replacement for displacement I know.
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Originally Posted by essential1
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DEK is a good motor. But there is no replacement for displacement I know.
stock 3.0 5MT vs stock 3.5 6MT...3.5 wins

3.0 5MT with boltons vs stock 3.5 6MT...3.5 still wins

3.5 5MT with boltons vs 3.5 6MT with same boltons...3.0 get spanked (ask irish)
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Originally Posted by SoonerFan
stock 3.0 5MT vs stock 3.5 6MT...3.5 wins

3.0 5MT with boltons vs stock 3.5 6MT...3.5 still wins

3.5 5MT with boltons vs 3.5 6MT with same boltons...3.0 get spanked (ask irish)
3.0 5MT with boltons and vs stock 3.5 4AT... 3.0 wins

Thats all.

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Originally Posted by essential1
3.0 5MT with boltons and vs stock 3.5 4AT... 3.0 wins

Thats all.

so....you mean that 5MT beats 4AT...got it...its NOT about the engine

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so....you mean that 5MT beats 4AT...got it...its NOT about the engine

DUH!!!! Everyone knows that! Search n00b!!
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What about a 3.0 4AT
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