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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 08:07 AM
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It would just seem, to me, that a lot of the performance mods would decrease fun in the daily driving routine, as they typically add NVH.
NVH, yes. But the visceral nature of these mods = fun-to-drive. I'm guessing that's the same for most members here, but I can only speak for myself. Besides, I'm the only one who drives the Maxima. The wife drives a new CR-V and isn't interested in driving the Max.


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Again, you took that the wrong way. I'm getting married in a few months and I know my wife-to-be would need convincing before I had "permission" to buy any performance bits (that weren't an upgrade because the stock piece is failing and needs to be replaced). I'm drawing from a large number of marriages to help me be more prepared for my own, right? I'm interested in how guys justify the expenses pertaining to their hobbies--that's all.
Just be honest and forthright, and never prioritize a car mod over a family purchase. Only do things that your partner supports, and that way you avoid conflict. If you start sneaking mods around her back, you're sunk.

The long-term question is: what do you do when the hobby gets out of hand?

I'm still working on that one.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 08:10 AM
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I'm still working on that one.
LOL!

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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
The long-term question is: what do you do when the hobby gets out of hand?

I'm still working on that one.
Sell it!

The way I see it, some people spend money on expensive sporting equipment. Some people spend money on boats or fishing etc. If you are able to do more then one, more power to you. I personally enjoy modding my car more then some of the alternatives so that is my hobby.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Eirik
Again, you took that the wrong way. I'm getting married in a few months and I know my wife-to-be would need convincing before I had "permission" to buy any performance bits (that weren't an upgrade because the stock piece is failing and needs to be replaced). I'm drawing from a large number of marriages to help me be more prepared for my own, right? I'm interested in how guys justify the expenses pertaining to their hobbies--that's all.
i dont need permission from my wife...but we talk about it

this is our deal - any money I save by doing work on any of our cars (oil changes, spark plugs, etc) goes into an imaginary pool...if I want a mod, I use that money...no questions asked...I dont have to justify anything

she actually helped me install most of the mods I had on the max...and enjoyed them

now that we have a house, my priorities changed...I want to put money in to the house...and save money by doing the work myself...and the money I save...you bet, I get to spend how I want...installing backyard speakers when I get home

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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 09:54 AM
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^^^Dude, you are going to have a hard time modding your Max if you need to get permission everytime. I know this from personal experience.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Eirik
Again, you took that the wrong way. I'm getting married in a few months and I know my wife-to-be would need convincing before I had "permission" to buy any performance bits (that weren't an upgrade because the stock piece is failing and needs to be replaced).
"You wanna buy a $600 purse and $200 shoes? Well, then I'm going to use my money to buy $800 coilovers for my car. You have your expensive hobbies. I have mine."

Old Jul 22, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
"You wanna buy a $600 purse and $200 shoes? Well, then I'm going to use my money to buy $800 coilovers for my car. You have your expensive hobbies. I have mine."

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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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^^^Dude, you are going to have a hard time modding your Max if you need to get permission everytime. I know this from personal experience.
He's going to have a hard time modding his Max because he doesn't own it anymore.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
"You wanna buy a $600 purse and $200 shoes? Well, then I'm going to use my money to buy $800 coilovers for my car. You have your expensive hobbies. I have mine."

Hmm. Expensive purse. Cheap coilovers.

Since this thread is dead now, let's move on to marital advice. First up, let's hear from all the teenagers still living at home.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Hmm. Expensive purse. Cheap coilovers.

Since this thread is dead now, let's move on to marital advice. First up, let's hear from all the teenagers still living at home.
Hey. You.



Yeah, can't say I've ever been married before, so I don't have much advice to offer. That was more sarcasm than anything on my part.

I've talked to the girl I'm dating about this situation before. The only response I got was, "I've always been told to be cautious when it comes to guys whose hobby is cars."
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 12:12 PM
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Figure I can do that since you've already demonstrated a self-deprecating sense of humor atypical for your age.

I have to watch myself now that I've been reminded how my behavior is unfitting at times.

Mean old Rochester...
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 12:12 PM
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Sry to bring a "dead" thread back but a...

I *** w/that sprint booster, all I know is I read countless +/- threads n being a skeptic I put it in the same boat as the tornado and venom but...

my boy w/a bolted 6spd took me for a ride (no rainbow) and I swear his car felt so sensitive to the touch it was crazy, he said he was rockin' a sprint boost and he luved it, said his car felt so slow/dead b4 hand It felt crazy but i'd def get one if I had 90% of the mods I wanna do done n had extra cash on deck
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
He's going to have a hard time modding his Max because he doesn't own it anymore.
????
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SCI
Sry to bring a "dead" thread back but a...

I *** w/that sprint booster, all I know is I read countless +/- threads n being a skeptic I put it in the same boat as the tornado and venom but...

my boy w/a bolted 6spd took me for a ride (no rainbow) and I swear his car felt so sensitive to the touch it was crazy, he said he was rockin' a sprint boost and he luved it, said his car felt so slow/dead b4 hand It felt crazy but i'd def get one if I had 90% of the mods I wanna do done n had extra cash on deck
Didn't see that one coming. Nice!

I'm not keeping score (because I'm in the minority), but I think that's 2 members who are actively using the Sprint Booster, and 3 other members who have had first hand exposure and a positive experience.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
He's going to have a hard time modding his Max because he doesn't own it anymore.
he wasnt talking to me
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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Rochester I wouldn't mind checking it out. Just busy in the upcoming weeks.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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Rochester I wouldn't mind checking it out. Just busy in the upcoming weeks.
That's not a bad idea, Ryan. You can drive the Maxima with and without the Booster, then report back objectively. Why that's any different than *me* driving it before & after, IDK, but what the hey...

After driving that little 4-cyl CVT all year, do you think you remember how to handle a 6MT?
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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I did drive a 5spd for 5 years so i think I can handle it

now that you are putting me in the driver seat some time may have opened up haha
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rroderiques77
????
Originally Posted by SoonerFan
he wasnt talking to me
My bad. Misread the post...
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by merovi
I did drive a 5spd for 5 years so i think I can handle it

now that you are putting me in the driver seat some time may have opened up haha
Yes, you can drive the Maxima. I've got Saturday afternoon available. Evening and Sunday are out.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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completely understood (from the start)...but since there is no "proof" people are going to doubt it
How much proof of "fun" do you require?
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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Figure I can do that since you've already demonstrated a self-deprecating sense of humor atypical for your age.

I have to watch myself now that I've been reminded how my behavior is unfitting at times.

Mean old Rochester...
Never take anything personally. People are going to give you crap no matter what you say or do. So just take it for what it's worth. If I've taken anything from my last two years in customer service, it's that.

Mean old Rochester...you're just a terrible, terrible person. Completely unfit for this forum. What with putting all the newbs in line and whatnot. And all the while not getting angry or saying any hateful words? That's absolutely absurd.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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How much proof of "fun" do you require?
Hear you go. 21 grinning idiots of fun.

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Here you go. 21 grinning idiots of fun.



Or is there some play on words at work here that I've missed?
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Or is there some play on words at work here that I've missed?
No. Sorry. I know you want to find Waldo, but it's just a misspeeling.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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No. Sorry. I know you want to find Waldo, but it's just a misspeeling.
Oh, okay. I got...

I see what you did there.
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Sry to bring a "dead" thread back but a...

I *** w/that sprint booster, all I know is I read countless +/- threads n being a skeptic I put it in the same boat as the tornado and venom but...

my boy w/a bolted 6spd took me for a ride (no rainbow) and I swear his car felt so sensitive to the touch it was crazy, he said he was rockin' a sprint boost and he luved it, said his car felt so slow/dead b4 hand It felt crazy but i'd def get one if I had 90% of the mods I wanna do done n had extra cash on deck
What up Sicko
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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^^ Cripes, I think you've stated the technical details of this thing from the get go, from personal experience. I give you credit for that and also understand how it works very well, and you verified more than once my theory of it.

The throttle position (plate angle) reaches the maximum (wide open) faster .. so there is a dead zone (i.e. maximum throttle reached) vs OEM, as noted in a graphic you posted some time ago.

Which is logical because the throttle can only open so much before it starts closing again.

Say 0º = WOT, then anything @ +/-1º will mean less throttle opening, hence the dead zone of ms.
You (and Rochester) may enjoy this (corroborating) technical analysis (I skimmed it):

http://www.peony888.com/VS/SprintBooster.pdf

Originally Posted by http://www.peony888.com/VS/SprintBooster.pdf
Conclusions

The Sprint Booster is a simple amplifier that multiplies the accelerator pedal sensor signal, making the accelerator pedal more sensitive. It does not eliminate any significant delay in throttle response, nor does it greatly improve acceleration figures. It does not change the adaptive throttle control programming of electronic throttle control vehicles. It does change pedal “feel”. This change in feel is interpreted by some as improved throttle response, acceleration, and a change in adaptive throttle control programming. Considering what it actually does, it is expensive.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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but its fun


Old Jul 22, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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As a conclusion, "expensive" is relative to each person's situation.

I got a break on price. I still think I'd buy it anyway, but there's no way to find out for sure, because I already have one you see.
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This horse is clearly dead. Even installing a Sprint Booster will not change it's response.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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You (and Rochester) may enjoy this (corroborating) technical analysis (I skimmed it):

http://www.peony888.com/VS/SprintBooster.pdf

Considering what this trinket does....what it is......and what it likely costs to manufacture it.....I would say sprint booster is making a killing on it........especially when you have threads like these with comments such as "car responded like a bat out of hell"....and "Is it a scam.....I don't care..I don't care...I don't care"..etc....to promote it....they are laughing all the way to the bank!
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 06:51 PM
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As a conclusion, "expensive" is relative to each person's situation.
As an aside, since this thread has so many, expensive is (a value proposition) relative to anything/everything. Sometimes to one's overall wealth (but then we likely wouldn't drive 7+ year old cars), other times to the benefits (performance) and sometimes to the intangibles (feelings). People value things (objects/experiences) relative to different metrics and consequently draw different conclusions.

Life is relative...

While values differ, the important part of the white paper is the technical details of the sprint booster's operation.

And yes, I'm rambling, and no, I don't care; but I does make me feel old.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 08:06 PM
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Man, that whitepaper looked really interesting, but the second page is completely blank for me. Crucial, as I really need the background information he seemed ready to discuss. Did it load for you, or is it just missing entirely? Neither refreshing nor downloading fixed it.

(Also, I now see how so many people have ~half-a-bajillion posts on here)
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 10:25 PM
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It increases the driveability throttle wise.....That's good enough for me to want it! But I'll be reflashing my ECU and the throttle is remapped in that so the sprint Booster won't be necessary.....Rochester, I'm sure you're right on the money on how the throttle response was much more crisp......I wouldn't waste your time trying to convince the OP if I were you......
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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Sorry if I'm bringing this further back from the dead, but there's a Sprint Booster retailer about 15 minutes away from me, and all the people that own or tried one out are pretty passionate about the Sprint Booster's merits, so I'll try it out tomorrow and see what it's like.
Old Jul 23, 2010 | 04:38 AM
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That "white paper" is written by a guy who builds and sells electronic auto mods.
Old Jul 23, 2010 | 05:44 AM
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Considering what this trinket does....what it is......and what it likely costs to manufacture it.....I would say sprint booster is making a killing on it........
Very likely. I imagine 98% of their costs now are pure marketing.

Originally Posted by 2 GO B4
...especially when you have threads like these with comments such as "car responded like a bat out of hell"....and "Is it a scam.....I don't care..I don't care...I don't care"..etc....to promote it....they are laughing all the way to the bank!
Very likely. But I don't care. I already have one you see.

Business success is very much like political success. Not enough, and you're ridiculed, but too much and you're demonized.
Old Jul 23, 2010 | 05:59 AM
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Rochester, I'm sure you're right on the money on how the throttle response was much more crisp......I wouldn't waste your time trying to convince the OP if I were you......
I am the OP. Thanks, though, CMax.

For everyone else, let's summarize (again):
  1. I thought the Sprint Booster was just another scam.
  2. The test-drive in my car was forced on me before I could say "no thanks", harmless as the intent was.
  3. Turns out, I really liked the way it changed the throttle sensitivity.
  4. I was offered a half-price deal, and happily accepted.
  5. Then I created this thread.

To all those members with their panties in a bunch... how's that working out for you? Because I'm still enjoying my Sprint Booster, and you little rascals are still trying to convince me I shouldn't.

I know what's in it for me. Haven't a clue what's at stake for you guys.
Old Jul 23, 2010 | 06:12 AM
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I agree with the OP's description of the sprint booster.

My question is does the Maxima's ECU learn your driving habits and reprogram automatically?

For some reason, I had always felt that DBW felt wierd compared to the traditional cable operated throttle. My 330 always felt wierd compared to my Jetta. The jetta with a traditional cable type throttle felt more instant compared to the BMW.

I had taken the BMW in to even find out what if there was an issue LOL.However, I soon learnt that on the BMW the ECU also learns your driving habits and automatically starts changing that mapping. I drove hard for a couple of weeks and sure enough it had started to offer more throttle on less pressure on the gas pedal.

Again, I know thats a bmw and this is a maxima, but I feel the ECU should be compensating for this as it learns your driving habits. If it doesnt then def these programs help solve the basic issue folks have with DBW setups.



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