Sup,I just got an upper intake mani for a deal when I got my headers
and would like to know if anyone is available in the CT/Springfield/Mass Area
to polish+ssim this for me...lmk thanx in advance

Sci

 

I continually lose the acronyms thread and have yet to figure out what SSIM stands for. Solid Steel Intake Manifold is the best I've come up with, but I know that can't be right, especially as you've now completely confused me by using SSIM as a verb!

Slightly Saucy? Super Slippery?

 

Seriously Silly Intake Mod?

 

Spongy Salty Idiot Mod?

 

SSIM = Secret Sauce Intake Manifold

 

Wow!! I thought it was Super Stuper Ion Modifier

 

you guys ares all wrong.. It means
Super Street intake motor

 

its obviously Miss backwards

 

Super Sexy Internal Monologue.

I has SSIM.

 

Don't bother without tune (a real tune) and extended rev.

 

LMFAO

yall sum funny *** dudes

can u define a "real" tune? would using a vafc/safc be considered to be a real tune?

 

i SSIM'd mine. I dont have a tune and although it may take away from the bottom end i didnt notice that much of a loss; but when iget the car moving once it hits 3k it feels like i just lit a rocket...just sayin

 

For SSIM...

Porting the LIM is a good idea for more midrange. Also running the NWP spacers.

An SAFC2 would work well or an e-Manage Blue. The e-Manage Blue can raise your rev limit as well which is beneficial for SSIM. Hit me up cuz I got both an SAFC2 and an e-Blue on deck right now Chris.

 

Super Stupid Idiots Mod......
why must yall fool the guys head with non sense... hey bro this is really what it means

 

It's very likely that if you were to lose 15 lbs of torque in the low end, but gain nothing in the high end, you would interpret the loss as gains up top. It's just the way we perceive such things.... especially when "modding" our cars and expecting gains. I'm not saying you gained nothing, but you probably lost more than was gained.

My times and trap speeds have been consistently better with a vias deleted stock manifold than with my SSIM.

 

was that with or without a tune? and stock rev limiter or raised limiter? IIRC, Ghustle's trap went up by 1-2mph while ET stayed the same.

 

Super Street Idiot Mother? lol

 

i think about SSIM have low power by cut interior on IM? Maybe Im wrong? click:

http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/5...o-comparo.html

 

Wow ...who invited Debbie Downer



I dont disagree. I dont mind it though if it did lose some on the bottom end. I like the way it feels. Actually might help me in the snowy New england months.

Another you guys may want to read on is the difference between a dual plane and single plane manifold if you already haven't. I know some of the guys on here like me that have a Muscle car may be able to chime in as well on. Our stock manifold is a dual plane which like has been stated is good for a street driven car that sees low to mid RPMS (performer RPM), and a the SSIM is a single plane manifold that obviously is used for high RPM use.
Hers something to read. Although it deals with V8s and Carbs it still is relevant to our manifold in some of the speech.
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/eng...ake/index.html

I agree with Child uv korn though, once i get my SAFC i can gain some of the low range back with the tune.

 

So it's confirmed on a maxima?

 

I think it's been proven that SSIM is more beneficial to the boosted guys.

 

Any car that cuts the revs using injector pulse can do it. I got a Blue faaa sale hit me up

 

Streetz will say the exact opposite... Go ahead, ask him.

 

I'm broke, but how much. You can PM me or let me know on facebook.

 

AFR tune isn't gonna help you any is what I mean. You need timing adjustment and extended rev. So, as a million other threads will tell you, get a reflash, Utec, or EU. And even the last two will be useless since you need to adjust cam timing to pick up some of what you lost below 5.5k. So the only option is a TS reflash. SSIM sucks. I have it and I'm slow.

I do think it should work better boosted, though. Lots of volume in there with the shelf gone.

 

GReddy v-Manage will fix ya cam timing. The e-Blue has the ability to adjust ignition timing on the 5.5 ECU, according to some posts I've read by Knight_yyz.

 

Nope, not at all. Like I said before, ask streetz, with the stock IM in place (with vias delete), he was able to spool his turbo at a lower RPM than with his previous SSIM.

 

Sparks seems to consistently have better 1/4 mile times with a stock manifold. I've heard the same from others.

 

The SSIM basically shifts power to the right. (top end) So with an extended rev limit and aggressive cams, this is what you want. Stock rev limit, you want a stock IM.

 

This is pretty well exampled by my own and JayPee's results with a SSIM. He has a TS reflash with the 350z cam timing maps and gained with the SSIM. I have a UTEC with stock cam timing maps and lost with the UTEC.

V-Manage is a 500 dollar investment JUST to control intake cam timing (we don't have variable exhaust cam timing). Very difficult to justify such an investment except in a F/I application where it can potentially cause large gains in spool time.

+1

Maybe with the cams... Personally, I rev out to around 7100-7200 rpms (max that is considered "safe" with stock rod bolts) and did not see gains with the SSIM.

 

I don't care about spooling lower (I have a turbo sitting here, how lame am I lol). I'm interested in how much TQ and HP it can make per amount of boost up top. If it can make gains up top at the same boost level as non-SSIM, that's good to me.

 

Not everyone is only interested in a dyno queen/roll monster. Faster and lower RPM spool make a difference at the track, in enjoyment factor driving around town, and between shifts (without a wot box, at least). I'm not trying to discredit your opinion... If you are only worried about top end then you are not alone in that. In fact there are entire communities of auto enthusiasts that share a desire only for the right side of the graph to be impressive (VTAK just kicked in, yo!). My point is simply that your view is not = to everyone else's.

 

Check it out:

http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/5...o-comparo.html

what you think about it on whp?

 

Just confirms what I've been saying, pretty much. You give up tons of low/midrange for a small gain above 6k.

 

So will jaypee99.... ask him too

 

I need all the lowend i can get, ive already got plenty of top end.

 

I know what you mean and I completely agree for NA and larger turbos, but say you're only running .69 hot side it's still going to spool fast with a 3.5, regardless. I wouldn't need any extra juice below 4-4.5k, but for highway it would be great if it makes more power. That's about the only thing these cars are good for when racing anyway LOL. FWD fail

 

And that is why my maxima will only ever be N/A with the possibility of nitrous... High power FWD is not nearly as fun as you'd imagine. I've got better ideas for my high power track/street monster

 

thanx for the feedback,I have learned a lot reading this thread even though I still searched for more info

seems like i'll pass on the ssim because it doesn't seem worth it lose so much to gain so little

I am planning on spraying the car,will that make a difference? I will be using a vafc/safc 2 to tune for now

 

Good to know wanted to do this mod but broke for a moment with holidays and next up on performance will be Headers!!