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You'd pass me by 80-100, imo, depending on when you hooked. From 5-80 I think I could build enough lead on you to avoid getting passed by the top of third, haha. Look at me bench racing... ugh this is going to draw MIKERNM in here telling us how his stock 6th gen (that isn't his) will pull busses on us.
12-27-2010, 03:46 PM
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You'd pass me by 80-100, imo, depending on when you hooked. From 5-80 I think I could build enough lead on you to avoid getting passed by the top of third, haha. Look at me bench racing... ugh this is going to draw MIKERNM in here telling us how his stock 6th gen (that isn't his) will pull busses on us.
And awwww, that MIKERNM, I don`t visit that page anymore. lol
12-27-2010, 03:48 PM
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You can run around 1" smaller tire diameter, which significantly increases gear ratios for first through third gear in an automatic.
On a 6-speed, it's just sidewall gains for the most part, you don't want to run much smaller than around 24" total diameter or you're shifting to 5th in the 1/4.
For F/I cars:
More sidewall. More traction. Faster runs.
12-27-2010, 05:12 PM
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I believe ghustle had some information on some 15" wheels that will fit over our stock brakes without modification.
Some others will probably fit with spacers.
Most won't fit.
In the case of my 15" 4th gen sawblades, I had to do a little caliper shaving.
12-27-2010, 05:27 PM
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yea i figured i had to shave the caliper a little bit, hopefully it won't be much
My 4th gen 5SPEED when it was stock felt a whole lot faster then then the auto 03 as it is now mostly stock
My 4th gen 5SPEED when it was stock felt a whole lot faster then then the auto 03 as it is now mostly stock
12-27-2010, 05:29 PM
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Judging from that tiny picture, those boat anchors you have on it are a bit bigger than stock. The 4AT auto gearing sucks for a NA car... smaller the diameter tires, the faster it's going to feel. I believe Aaron92SE uses 23" slicks pretty often. (stock height is 25.7")
If I had an auto 5.5 gen, I'd daily drive it on 16s with 245/35/16s or so up front.
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12-27-2010, 05:38 PM
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yea their 18's i'm going to throw on the traklite wheels aero 15's see how they feel once it warms up a bit . I still have my saw blades to from my 95 but their heavy as hell more then my 18 if im not mistaken
12-27-2010, 05:41 PM
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http://forums.maxima.org/tires-wheel...ht-thread.html
12-27-2010, 09:03 PM
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Just go outside, pull a front wheel off, and fit them up. Go from there. That's a good place to start
Judging from that tiny picture, those boat anchors you have on it are a bit bigger than stock. The 4AT auto gearing sucks for a NA car... smaller the diameter tires, the faster it's going to feel. I believe Aaron92SE uses 23" slicks pretty often. (stock height is 25.7")
If I had an auto 5.5 gen, I'd daily drive it on 16s with 245/35/16s or so up front.
Judging from that tiny picture, those boat anchors you have on it are a bit bigger than stock. The 4AT auto gearing sucks for a NA car... smaller the diameter tires, the faster it's going to feel. I believe Aaron92SE uses 23" slicks pretty often. (stock height is 25.7")
If I had an auto 5.5 gen, I'd daily drive it on 16s with 245/35/16s or so up front.
12-27-2010, 09:15 PM
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So the "big ones" I saw you with were the 22"... haha.
Auto guys, take heed of what Aaron's doing. That car freakin' moves! Watched him come within 2 .10ths of beating a heavily modded 11.X second SRT-8 jeep trapping 117s with his N/A 3.5L automatic, bogging out of the hole to 1.9 '60 foots. Smallest diameter you can possibly get away with on tires is going to net you the best times, unless you're trapping in the 120+ range.
Aaron, do you have any tires around the stock 25.7" (5.5 gen) total diameter by any chance? I'd love to see a same track day comparison of different tire diameters for gearing. I bet it would be an eye opener and get some of these automatic track stars off their BBKs and onto some 15" wheels with stock brakes and tiny slicks to put down much better times.
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12-27-2010, 09:27 PM
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So the "big ones" I saw you with were the 22"... haha.
Auto guys, take heed of what Aaron's doing. That car freakin' moves! Watched him come within 2 .10ths of beating a heavily modded 11.X second SRT-8 jeep trapping 117s with his N/A 3.5L automatic, bogging out of the hole to 1.9 '60 foots. Smallest diameter you can possibly get away with on tires is going to net you the best times, unless you're trapping in the 120+ range.
Aaron, do you have any tires around the stock 25.7" (5.5 gen) total diameter by any chance? I'd love to see a same track day comparison of different tire diameters for gearing. I bet it would be an eye opener and get some of these automatic track stars off their BBKs and onto some 15" wheels with stock brakes and tiny slicks to put down much better times.
So the "big ones" I saw you with were the 22"... haha.
Auto guys, take heed of what Aaron's doing. That car freakin' moves! Watched him come within 2 .10ths of beating a heavily modded 11.X second SRT-8 jeep trapping 117s with his N/A 3.5L automatic, bogging out of the hole to 1.9 '60 foots. Smallest diameter you can possibly get away with on tires is going to net you the best times, unless you're trapping in the 120+ range.
Aaron, do you have any tires around the stock 25.7" (5.5 gen) total diameter by any chance? I'd love to see a same track day comparison of different tire diameters for gearing. I bet it would be an eye opener and get some of these automatic track stars off their BBKs and onto some 15" wheels with stock brakes and tiny slicks to put down much better times.
The difference in ETs and 60 foots is amazing by going with a 20" slick versus 25"+ tires. I haven't ever run on 25" slicks, but I would estimate that if both slicks have equal traction, the 20" slicks would be at least 2 tenths faster in the 1/4 mile. If you have a stock stall TC, the gains may be even more noticeable since you'll need 1st gear to wind up faster.
Right now, I have no issues hooking up with the 20" slicks while doing low 1.8s. My traction is near perfect. It's my converter that's preventing me from getting those 1.7s or better. I'm currently working on that BTW.
12-27-2010, 09:40 PM
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12-27-2010, 09:41 PM
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20"
So the "big ones" I saw you with were the 22"... haha.
Auto guys, take heed of what Aaron's doing. That car freakin' moves! Watched him come within 2 .10ths of beating a heavily modded 11.X second SRT-8 jeep trapping 117s with his N/A 3.5L automatic, bogging out of the hole to 1.9 '60 foots. Smallest diameter you can possibly get away with on tires is going to net you the best times, unless you're trapping in the 120+ range.
Aaron, do you have any tires around the stock 25.7" (5.5 gen) total diameter by any chance? I'd love to see a same track day comparison of different tire diameters for gearing. I bet it would be an eye opener and get some of these automatic track stars off their BBKs and onto some 15" wheels with stock brakes and tiny slicks to put down much better times.
So the "big ones" I saw you with were the 22"... haha.
Auto guys, take heed of what Aaron's doing. That car freakin' moves! Watched him come within 2 .10ths of beating a heavily modded 11.X second SRT-8 jeep trapping 117s with his N/A 3.5L automatic, bogging out of the hole to 1.9 '60 foots. Smallest diameter you can possibly get away with on tires is going to net you the best times, unless you're trapping in the 120+ range.
Aaron, do you have any tires around the stock 25.7" (5.5 gen) total diameter by any chance? I'd love to see a same track day comparison of different tire diameters for gearing. I bet it would be an eye opener and get some of these automatic track stars off their BBKs and onto some 15" wheels with stock brakes and tiny slicks to put down much better times.
12-27-2010, 09:42 PM
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Yeah, the big slicks you saw me running were the 22" MT slicks.
The difference in ETs and 60 foots is amazing by going with a 20" slick versus 25"+ tires. I haven't ever run on 25" slicks, but I would estimate that if both slicks have equal traction, the 20" slicks would be at least 2 tenths faster in the 1/4 mile. If you have a stock stall TC, the gains may be even more noticeable since you'll need 1st gear to wind up faster.
Right now, I have no issues hooking up with the 20" slicks while doing low 1.8s. My traction is near perfect. It's my converter that's preventing me from getting those 1.7s or better. I'm currently working on that BTW.
The difference in ETs and 60 foots is amazing by going with a 20" slick versus 25"+ tires. I haven't ever run on 25" slicks, but I would estimate that if both slicks have equal traction, the 20" slicks would be at least 2 tenths faster in the 1/4 mile. If you have a stock stall TC, the gains may be even more noticeable since you'll need 1st gear to wind up faster.
Right now, I have no issues hooking up with the 20" slicks while doing low 1.8s. My traction is near perfect. It's my converter that's preventing me from getting those 1.7s or better. I'm currently working on that BTW.
If my car wasn't so heavy and those 4ATs weren't so notorious in the heavier cars... I would be all over changing over to a non-sunroof, cloth interior base model automatic.
12-27-2010, 09:44 PM
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Edge racing. Jime and others also use that brand. I'm sure Aaron can shoot specifics.
Man... who would have thought this thread would actually end up on topic for almost 10 pages have otherwise useful information in it?
Man... who would have thought this thread would actually end up on topic for almost 10 pages have otherwise useful information in it?
12-28-2010, 10:12 AM
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All my converter builds are from Edge Racing Converters. Andre has been awesome to deal with and he builds the best converter out there for Nissans. Give him a call if you want better 1/4 mile ETs. Tell him Aaron at NWP Engineering sent you.
http://www.edgeracingconverters.com/
All the converters I've experimented with, even the stock one, has kept me in the power band after the shift. As long as I'm above 4100rpm after the shift, I'm laying down some serious power. But, if I get a properly built 5K+ stall, it will keep me in a better part of the power band in the bottom part of 2nd gear. As long as the converter is efficient, then it will be beneficial. Which this new converter he's working on will be based on a 9.5" smaller cover which will allow for a higher stall while increasing HP to the ground at the same time! If you make a 5K stall with the stock cover, you'll have a highly inefficient cover that's too hot and will lower your trap speed by as much as 10mph resulting in an awesome 60 foot, but HIGHER ETs! But with a 9.5" cover, my trap speed will actually increase along with being able to do 1.6 60s!
Are you saying the 02-03 Maxima ATs are notorious for breaking? I haven't looked into them too much, but I thought they are good units like the other RE4F04 units used in the 92-99 Maximas. Mine is pretty bullet proof in stock form. Just keep your ATFs in check and get a shift kit to reduce slippage. I have well over 200K miles on mine and I spent 2 full seasons bracket racing it in stock weight (3450lbs w/ driver). But I've have a VB recal since the beginning almost. Now I'm at 2600-2800lbs w/ driver and have exactly 150whp MORE than stock and it's holding up.
http://www.edgeracingconverters.com/
I heard about the 5000 stall torque converter. That is going to be amazing. I'm guessing it will also hold more RPMs between shifts, keeping you deeper in the powerband as well... Between you and Jime, I bet we see a nice wave of automatic-using drag racers
If my car wasn't so heavy and those 4ATs weren't so notorious in the heavier cars... I would be all over changing over to a non-sunroof, cloth interior base model automatic.
If my car wasn't so heavy and those 4ATs weren't so notorious in the heavier cars... I would be all over changing over to a non-sunroof, cloth interior base model automatic.
Are you saying the 02-03 Maxima ATs are notorious for breaking? I haven't looked into them too much, but I thought they are good units like the other RE4F04 units used in the 92-99 Maximas. Mine is pretty bullet proof in stock form. Just keep your ATFs in check and get a shift kit to reduce slippage. I have well over 200K miles on mine and I spent 2 full seasons bracket racing it in stock weight (3450lbs w/ driver). But I've have a VB recal since the beginning almost. Now I'm at 2600-2800lbs w/ driver and have exactly 150whp MORE than stock and it's holding up.
12-28-2010, 10:57 AM
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All my converter builds are from Edge Racing Converters. Andre has been awesome to deal with and he builds the best converter out there for Nissans. Give him a call if you want better 1/4 mile ETs. Tell him Aaron at NWP Engineering sent you.
http://www.edgeracingconverters.com/
All the converters I've experimented with, even the stock one, has kept me in the power band after the shift. As long as I'm above 4100rpm after the shift, I'm laying down some serious power. But, if I get a properly built 5K+ stall, it will keep me in a better part of the power band in the bottom part of 2nd gear. As long as the converter is efficient, then it will be beneficial. Which this new converter he's working on will be based on a 9.5" smaller cover which will allow for a higher stall while increasing HP to the ground at the same time! If you make a 5K stall with the stock cover, you'll have a highly inefficient cover that's too hot and will lower your trap speed by as much as 10mph resulting in an awesome 60 foot, but HIGHER ETs! But with a 9.5" cover, my trap speed will actually increase along with being able to do 1.6 60s!
Are you saying the 02-03 Maxima ATs are notorious for breaking? I haven't looked into them too much, but I thought they are good units like the other RE4F04 units used in the 92-99 Maximas. Mine is pretty bullet proof in stock form. Just keep your ATFs in check and get a shift kit to reduce slippage. I have well over 200K miles on mine and I spent 2 full seasons bracket racing it in stock weight (3450lbs w/ driver). But I've have a VB recal since the beginning almost. Now I'm at 2600-2800lbs w/ driver and have exactly 150whp MORE than stock and it's holding up.
http://www.edgeracingconverters.com/
All the converters I've experimented with, even the stock one, has kept me in the power band after the shift. As long as I'm above 4100rpm after the shift, I'm laying down some serious power. But, if I get a properly built 5K+ stall, it will keep me in a better part of the power band in the bottom part of 2nd gear. As long as the converter is efficient, then it will be beneficial. Which this new converter he's working on will be based on a 9.5" smaller cover which will allow for a higher stall while increasing HP to the ground at the same time! If you make a 5K stall with the stock cover, you'll have a highly inefficient cover that's too hot and will lower your trap speed by as much as 10mph resulting in an awesome 60 foot, but HIGHER ETs! But with a 9.5" cover, my trap speed will actually increase along with being able to do 1.6 60s!
Are you saying the 02-03 Maxima ATs are notorious for breaking? I haven't looked into them too much, but I thought they are good units like the other RE4F04 units used in the 92-99 Maximas. Mine is pretty bullet proof in stock form. Just keep your ATFs in check and get a shift kit to reduce slippage. I have well over 200K miles on mine and I spent 2 full seasons bracket racing it in stock weight (3450lbs w/ driver). But I've have a VB recal since the beginning almost. Now I'm at 2600-2800lbs w/ driver and have exactly 150whp MORE than stock and it's holding up.
How did you shave off 650-850 lbs??!
12-28-2010, 11:11 AM
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12-28-2010, 11:53 AM
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Some really good info Aaron92SE i can't wait to play with wheel and tire size Right now im running a set of 18x7.5 rims and 235/40/18 tires even only weighting 18 pounds i felt my 0-30 slow down a bit I can't wait to install my traklite wheels aero they have a 205/50/15's on them the 03 should really pick up now
12-28-2010, 11:59 AM
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