How come ppl are selling their max after.....
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We grow up, get tired of driving a $8000 car with $20k worth of mods to it...part it out, and move on to bigger and better things.
I realize this is a max forum, but you have to realize the maxima isnt a GREAT car. Don't get me wrong, they are nice cars that make decent power, but there's such nicer cars out there that could are more luxurious and make the maxima seem like a go-cart in the power/handling department.
I realize this is a max forum, but you have to realize the maxima isnt a GREAT car. Don't get me wrong, they are nice cars that make decent power, but there's such nicer cars out there that could are more luxurious and make the maxima seem like a go-cart in the power/handling department.
I totally agree with you 150% with everything you just said.
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....my tax refund is just around the corner....
tell that to maximaking......
Undeniable w/o a doubt.
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If your car is everything you care about, then by all means, drop every last cent into it. Some of us would prefer to allocate our money to SEVERAL things we enjoy in life. Rochester has it figured out. 
dont know bout u guys, but i have the deal of the century with my 2k2 max........so far i have only about 1400 bucks in my max......thats including the price of the car......advantages of workin at a body shop where u got 3 other maximas to bum parts off of.....and im sad to say that i caught the mod bug and i just want it to go faster and faster......
dont listen to rochester, you want my car in 2012
Then you're the member I want to hook up with in 2012. I'm an original owner, with low mileage, impeccable care, and professionally installed, well-thought-out mods.
Hope you or someone like you is around on the Org when I go to sell it... for a ridiculously fair price, too.
Hope you or someone like you is around on the Org when I go to sell it... for a ridiculously fair price, too.
tell ya what, im glad to be on stock suspension for the winter, the last 2 snow storms dropped 18 and 12 inches. i would have been a slowplow! im prob gonna keep the max anyway, i can see people wanting to buy it in 2012 for 3500 bux...lol
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I imagine you'd be in heaven with all this snow, all jazzed up about your HLSD tranny.
As to salty NY roads... those old mods of yours can't get any more rusty than they are now, right?
I say, get out there and enjoy the snowstorm, buddy.
As to salty NY roads... those old mods of yours can't get any more rusty than they are now, right?
I say, get out there and enjoy the snowstorm, buddy.
my hotshot y pipe is done, the flex is leaking, and all the ceramic coating is gone, and its now 100% rust. im waiting for it to just fall off at this point. lol
at 6'6" there are not many cars i fit into. maybe i will get the new f150 with the ecoboost motor 
My Cattman y-pipe looks as good as the day I bought it, which is weird because I have the same winters you do. My Cattman cat-back, however, is getting a little iffy around the brackets. Otherwise, the pipes themselves and the muffler are still A-OK.
Hotshot, you modded your car far earlier than I did, and got to enjoy them far longer than I ever will. So you got that going for you.
Aw crap. Here I am teasing you, and now I just feel sad.
My Cattman y-pipe looks as good as the day I bought it, which is weird because I have the same winters you do. My Cattman cat-back, however, is getting a little iffy around the brackets. Otherwise, the pipes themselves and the muffler are still A-OK.
Hotshot, you modded your car far earlier than I did, and got to enjoy them far longer than I ever will. So you got that going for you.
My Cattman y-pipe looks as good as the day I bought it, which is weird because I have the same winters you do. My Cattman cat-back, however, is getting a little iffy around the brackets. Otherwise, the pipes themselves and the muffler are still A-OK.
Hotshot, you modded your car far earlier than I did, and got to enjoy them far longer than I ever will. So you got that going for you.
Thanks, CMax.
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maybe ive been away from the .org for too long or im just really skeptical...i dont see how long a VQ (any VQ for that matter) can put up with that much power for any amount of time ( mainly due to a realtively long stroke and high comp pistons with poor lubrication of the journals). unless of course, the tuner is just out to prove a point ....
...other forums that im on, (NYCmaximas,VQpower,Nico) the VQ30's and VQ35 owners that are running boost never crank it up past 8-10lbs on the stock internals which would translate to around 390-410 at the wheels.
more power is achievable obviously with better rods and lower compression pistons.
does somebody know something they dont? im sure they would like to extract the most power from their setup as well.
but if the majority of boosted VQ's are not daring to go much past the 400 mark there has got to be a reason why...
...other forums that im on, (NYCmaximas,VQpower,Nico) the VQ30's and VQ35 owners that are running boost never crank it up past 8-10lbs on the stock internals which would translate to around 390-410 at the wheels.
more power is achievable obviously with better rods and lower compression pistons.
does somebody know something they dont? im sure they would like to extract the most power from their setup as well.
but if the majority of boosted VQ's are not daring to go much past the 400 mark there has got to be a reason why...
I would say the main reason for not going past the 400 range is ummm something called traction. While having all that power is fun but kind of worthless cause of traction. These cars (maximas) with that much power are only good on the highway, 1/8 and 1/4 mile SUCK. And dude my car has been boosted now for 3 years and I push 10 psi on high boost. I have no problem or engine issues.
my y looked good too when i sold it. however the HS headers are mild steel with ceramic coating, and having other HS products on my other car, i knew it was happening...anyway the headers were free so i dont really care
Aw crap. Here I am teasing you, and now I just feel sad.
My Cattman y-pipe looks as good as the day I bought it, which is weird because I have the same winters you do. My Cattman cat-back, however, is getting a little iffy around the brackets. Otherwise, the pipes themselves and the muffler are still A-OK.
Hotshot, you modded your car far earlier than I did, and got to enjoy them far longer than I ever will. So you got that going for you.
My Cattman y-pipe looks as good as the day I bought it, which is weird because I have the same winters you do. My Cattman cat-back, however, is getting a little iffy around the brackets. Otherwise, the pipes themselves and the muffler are still A-OK.
Hotshot, you modded your car far earlier than I did, and got to enjoy them far longer than I ever will. So you got that going for you.
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I would say the main reason for not going past the 400 range is ummm something called traction. While having all that power is fun but kind of worthless cause of traction. These cars (maximas) with that much power are only good on the highway, 1/8 and 1/4 mile SUCK. And dude my car has been boosted now for 3 years and I push 10 psi on high boost. I have no problem or engine issues.
alot of them will simply state that going over the 400 mark turns the motor into a ticking time bomb. a quick google search on boosted vq35s/vq30s with stock bottom ends will pull up numerous discussions on the topic (which is what I did prior to posting) , and their discussions aren't about traction but about reliability.
what's the point of having a 500hp vq that's only gonna last a few dyno pulls?
and I never said vq's cant hold high hp....just the hp that whatshisface is stating. 560 to the wheels???? that puts it at over 650 at the crank on stock internals???? BS!! vq's are awesome....but not that awesome
my point was that all boosted vq's are kept in their hp range due to a weak bottom end and high compression. I seriuosly doubt with ur setup you would have the guts to turn the boost past 12-13lbs at the very most. which correct me if im wrong, I believe you are stock internals as well.
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I would say the main reason for not going past the 400 range is ummm something called traction. While having all that power is fun but kind of worthless cause of traction. These cars (maximas) with that much power are only good on the highway, 1/8 and 1/4 mile SUCK. And dude my car has been boosted now for 3 years and I push 10 psi on high boost. I have no problem or engine issues.
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I would say the main reason for not going past the 400 range is ummm something called traction. While having all that power is fun but kind of worthless cause of traction. These cars (maximas) with that much power are only good on the highway, 1/8 and 1/4 mile SUCK. And dude my car has been boosted now for 3 years and I push 10 psi on high boost. I have no problem or engine issues.
I agree that on the street, you will have a difficult time getting traction. However, with the right suspension/wheel/street tire setup (again, a 16 or 17" wheel and tires with sidewall would be >>>>>>> giant wheels and tires with no sidewall), it's very likely you could get to a point where you are able to launch well in first, hook partially through second, and fully in third. I guess it depends on bling vs function when it comes down to it.
well what about 350z's/370z's/g35s/g37s?
alot of them will simply state that going over the 400 mark turns the motor into a ticking time bomb. a quick google search on boosted vq35s/vq30s with stock bottom ends will pull up numerous discussions on the topic (which is what I did prior to posting) , and their discussions aren't about traction but about reliability.
what's the point of having a 500hp vq that's only gonna last a few dyno pulls?
and I never said vq's cant hold high hp....just the hp that whatshisface is stating. 560 to the wheels???? that puts it at over 650 at the crank on stock internals???? BS!! vq's are awesome....but not that awesome
my point was that all boosted vq's are kept in their hp range due to a weak bottom end and high compression. I seriuosly doubt with ur setup you would have the guts to turn the boost past 12-13lbs at the very most. which correct me if im wrong, I believe you are stock internals as well.
alot of them will simply state that going over the 400 mark turns the motor into a ticking time bomb. a quick google search on boosted vq35s/vq30s with stock bottom ends will pull up numerous discussions on the topic (which is what I did prior to posting) , and their discussions aren't about traction but about reliability.
what's the point of having a 500hp vq that's only gonna last a few dyno pulls?
and I never said vq's cant hold high hp....just the hp that whatshisface is stating. 560 to the wheels???? that puts it at over 650 at the crank on stock internals???? BS!! vq's are awesome....but not that awesome
my point was that all boosted vq's are kept in their hp range due to a weak bottom end and high compression. I seriuosly doubt with ur setup you would have the guts to turn the boost past 12-13lbs at the very most. which correct me if im wrong, I believe you are stock internals as well.
Second, as has been reiterated time and again on my350z, the amount of power that the VQ35 is capable of holding is very much determined by the quality of the tune. Most who know what they are talking about on that forum will say 400-425whp is a nice safe number if the tune is up to snuff and you take care of it, but that it can hold more with a proper tune and care (especially with water+meth and/or E85). All it takes is a little detonation to be the difference between snapping a rod and lasting another 20k miles and detonation can be prevented by always buying high octane gas, watching out for heat soak situations and hot weather, and often water/meth injection under boost for more peace of mind.
There are people on that forum who have run 450-500whp for many 10,000s of miles without a hitch on a stock bottom end because of a great tune and careful monitoring/safety measures, then there are those who have blown their engines at 325whp because of a bad tune or poor treatment. There have been some rare cases where someone made over 500whp for long periods of time on the stock bottom end, but those people obviously had great tunes, most were using E85, and were prepared for the eventual engine build.
My guess is that 1swtmax has a solid tune and his engine has lasted and will last at >400whp for a long time to come as long as he continues to treat it right.
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I'm going to have to somewhat disagree with you about the 1/8 and 1/4 mile. If you wanted to get traction at the drag strip, you would swap to stock or 5th gen brakes (or small after market brakes if the baller in you screams for sweet brakes) and use some 15" wheels with meaty slicks. 26x10.5x15 would probably be a perfect size for a boosted 6mt @ around 400whp. Suspension tiedowns to eliminate weight transfer or very stiff coilovers would also be ideal. Use a WOT box like the N2MB to 2-step launch at around 4500-5000 rpms in order to build boost off the line and avoid some of the lag, and use the no-lift feature to hold boost between shifts. Considering how much it costs to turbo build your car, some brakes/wheels/slicks and a WOT box in order to use it all properly at a drag strip are nothing in comparison. You certainly have the potential to get kicked off the track for not having a cage in that car with some low 11s or better.
I agree that on the street, you will have a difficult time getting traction. However, with the right suspension/wheel/street tire setup (again, a 16 or 17" wheel and tires with sidewall would be >>>>>>> giant wheels and tires with no sidewall), it's very likely you could get to a point where you are able to launch well in first, hook partially through second, and fully in third. I guess it depends on bling vs function when it comes down to it.
Firstly, any lb of boost number is relative to the size of the turbocharger and the amount of air that it flows at that boost number. A small GT25 turbo at 16lbs would make far less power and be much less likely to blow a stock VQ than a much larger TC78ish turbo at 8lbs of boost. You can't just make a blanket statement that a VQ can't take over 12-13lbs of boost or that 8-10 lbs of boost is equal to 390-410whp considering the fact that it is a relative number based on the turbocharger choice itself. You list all kinds of credentials of all the forums you read on, yet don't understand something so basic. Interesting.
Second, as has been reiterated time and again on my350z, the amount of power that the VQ35 is capable of holding is very much determined by the quality of the tune. Most who know what they are talking about on that forum will say 400-425whp is a nice safe number if the tune is up to snuff and you take care of it, but that it can hold more with a proper tune and care (especially with water+meth and/or E85). All it takes is a little detonation to be the difference between snapping a rod and lasting another 20k miles and detonation can be prevented by always buying high octane gas, watching out for heat soak situations and hot weather, and often water/meth injection under boost for more peace of mind.
There are people on that forum who have run 450-500whp for many 10,000s of miles without a hitch on a stock bottom end because of a great tune and careful monitoring/safety measures, then there are those who have blown their engines at 325whp because of a bad tune or poor treatment. There have been some rare cases where someone made over 500whp for long periods of time on the stock bottom end, but those people obviously had great tunes, most were using E85, and were prepared for the eventual engine build.
My guess is that 1swtmax has a solid tune and his engine has lasted and will last at >400whp for a long time to come as long as he continues to treat it right.
I agree that on the street, you will have a difficult time getting traction. However, with the right suspension/wheel/street tire setup (again, a 16 or 17" wheel and tires with sidewall would be >>>>>>> giant wheels and tires with no sidewall), it's very likely you could get to a point where you are able to launch well in first, hook partially through second, and fully in third. I guess it depends on bling vs function when it comes down to it.
Firstly, any lb of boost number is relative to the size of the turbocharger and the amount of air that it flows at that boost number. A small GT25 turbo at 16lbs would make far less power and be much less likely to blow a stock VQ than a much larger TC78ish turbo at 8lbs of boost. You can't just make a blanket statement that a VQ can't take over 12-13lbs of boost or that 8-10 lbs of boost is equal to 390-410whp considering the fact that it is a relative number based on the turbocharger choice itself. You list all kinds of credentials of all the forums you read on, yet don't understand something so basic. Interesting.
Second, as has been reiterated time and again on my350z, the amount of power that the VQ35 is capable of holding is very much determined by the quality of the tune. Most who know what they are talking about on that forum will say 400-425whp is a nice safe number if the tune is up to snuff and you take care of it, but that it can hold more with a proper tune and care (especially with water+meth and/or E85). All it takes is a little detonation to be the difference between snapping a rod and lasting another 20k miles and detonation can be prevented by always buying high octane gas, watching out for heat soak situations and hot weather, and often water/meth injection under boost for more peace of mind.
There are people on that forum who have run 450-500whp for many 10,000s of miles without a hitch on a stock bottom end because of a great tune and careful monitoring/safety measures, then there are those who have blown their engines at 325whp because of a bad tune or poor treatment. There have been some rare cases where someone made over 500whp for long periods of time on the stock bottom end, but those people obviously had great tunes, most were using E85, and were prepared for the eventual engine build.
My guess is that 1swtmax has a solid tune and his engine has lasted and will last at >400whp for a long time to come as long as he continues to treat it right.
You are totally correct Sparks. I am totally wrong. Its not built for the strip. Its my weekened car, take the wife out, go to a few shows or meets, and once in awhile take it to the strip with a few fellas.
The drywaller that I use tells me the same thing about the bbk, wheels, wot box, ect. But thats not why I built it.
While my statement may not agree with you, I agree with it.
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Once again Sparks I totally agree with you. I`m all about the bling factor thou.
The drywaller that I use tells me the same thing that you are telling me. But the whole idea of doing everything that you say, just is not what I want. You know I`ve talked to you before about it. I like the bbk, larger wheels, interior intacked. But I agree it could be much more fun at the track than what I have now.
H3ll, one track almost did not let me run cause of the battery shut off switch was not sticking threw the rear bumper.
You are totally correct Sparks. I am totally wrong. Its not built for the strip. Its my weekened car, take the wife out, go to a few shows or meets, and once in awhile take it to the strip with a few fellas.
The drywaller that I use tells me the same thing about the bbk, wheels, wot box, ect. But thats not why I built it.
While my statement may not agree with you, I agree with it.
The drywaller that I use tells me the same thing that you are telling me. But the whole idea of doing everything that you say, just is not what I want. You know I`ve talked to you before about it. I like the bbk, larger wheels, interior intacked. But I agree it could be much more fun at the track than what I have now.
H3ll, one track almost did not let me run cause of the battery shut off switch was not sticking threw the rear bumper.
You are totally correct Sparks. I am totally wrong. Its not built for the strip. Its my weekened car, take the wife out, go to a few shows or meets, and once in awhile take it to the strip with a few fellas.
The drywaller that I use tells me the same thing about the bbk, wheels, wot box, ect. But thats not why I built it.
While my statement may not agree with you, I agree with it.
well what about 350z's/370z's/g35s/g37s?
alot of them will simply state that going over the 400 mark turns the motor into a ticking time bomb. a quick google search on boosted vq35s/vq30s with stock bottom ends will pull up numerous discussions on the topic (which is what I did prior to posting) , and their discussions aren't about traction but about reliability.
what's the point of having a 500hp vq that's only gonna last a few dyno pulls?
and I never said vq's cant hold high hp....just the hp that whatshisface is stating. 560 to the wheels???? that puts it at over 650 at the crank on stock internals???? BS!! vq's are awesome....but not that awesome
my point was that all boosted vq's are kept in their hp range due to a weak bottom end and high compression. I seriuosly doubt with ur setup you would have the guts to turn the boost past 12-13lbs at the very most. which correct me if im wrong, I believe you are stock internals as well.
alot of them will simply state that going over the 400 mark turns the motor into a ticking time bomb. a quick google search on boosted vq35s/vq30s with stock bottom ends will pull up numerous discussions on the topic (which is what I did prior to posting) , and their discussions aren't about traction but about reliability.
what's the point of having a 500hp vq that's only gonna last a few dyno pulls?
and I never said vq's cant hold high hp....just the hp that whatshisface is stating. 560 to the wheels???? that puts it at over 650 at the crank on stock internals???? BS!! vq's are awesome....but not that awesome
my point was that all boosted vq's are kept in their hp range due to a weak bottom end and high compression. I seriuosly doubt with ur setup you would have the guts to turn the boost past 12-13lbs at the very most. which correct me if im wrong, I believe you are stock internals as well.
im pretty sure all those cars can handle over 400 hp with no problem at all with stock internals. its not going to turn it into a "ticking time bomb". not to mention that they make stillen supercharges for the 370 and g37 that boost the hp from 332 to 515. and all those guys that are having trouble with their bottom ends when they boost are the same guys that boost their 150,000+ miled vq. you cant put that type of horsepower on ANY car with that much mileage with out rebuilding your engine and tranny.
now with the sole exception of classic cars (which unfortunately maximas havent reached that point yet) you dont invest money into a car to get something back except the satisfaction of accomplished something that you made and are proud of!
you want to invest into something? buy a house, a duplex, a condo, stocks...etc. not a car!!!
you want to invest into something? buy a house, a duplex, a condo, stocks...etc. not a car!!!
I can't express enough how screwed I always feel when I have to take my car to a shop and let them perform work that I would rather do myself. At the very least it would be nice if they let me watch, but that's always a no go. Anywho, those days are over now that there is a local place that lets you rent their shop and tools.
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Firstly, any lb of boost number is relative to the size of the turbocharger and the amount of air that it flows at that boost number. A small GT25 turbo at 16lbs would make far less power and be much less likely to blow a stock VQ than a much larger TC78ish turbo at 8lbs of boost. You can't just make a blanket statement that a VQ can't take over 12-13lbs of boost or that 8-10 lbs of boost is equal to 390-410whp considering the fact that it is a relative number based on the turbocharger choice itself. You list all kinds of credentials of all the forums you read on, yet don't understand something so basic. Interesting.
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and besides, a 2-3 lbs difference isnt much at the wheels. with the general rule that i've learned that usually 1lb of boost (depending on the turbocharger of course) is approx 8-10hp more at wheels (give or take).
i listed credentials from other websites because i did a quick forum search on pretty much all of the ones im a member on and didnt find any "stock" bottom end VQ's that push the 600+hp limit.
you said they do exist and i believe you. this isnt the honda forums so im not gonna be a jerk and say "BS! lemme see proof!" . i dont think you or anyone else here has reason to lie but im still very skeptical...
Second, as has been reiterated time and again on my350z, the amount of power that the VQ35 is capable of holding is very much determined by the quality of the tune. Most who know what they are talking about on that forum will say 400-425whp is a nice safe number if the tune is up to snuff and you take care of it, but that it can hold more with a proper tune and care (especially with water+meth and/or E85). All it takes is a little detonation to be the difference between snapping a rod and lasting another 20k miles and detonation can be prevented by always buying high octane gas, watching out for heat soak situations and hot weather, and often water/meth injection under boost for more peace of mind.
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i agree and this isnt new (not just to VQ's at least) , however the word "but" you added is where the experience of the tuner comes in, which now is very crucial because the margin of error is very very little on a stock block VQ. a little detonation or a little too lean and your out a motor.
tuners that can squeeze that xtra 80-100hp more are few and far between. why?
cause most tuners dont have the expertise or guts to take a chance, (heck i wouldnt) and would rather have the engine last 10,000k + miles safely rather than take a chance on some kids motor and say: "lets see what shes got!" ...and then begin tuning into a land few experienced tunes have ventured into.
as you and a few others have mentioned, there are a few 500+ VQ's out there, but there's probably a reason why i cant find them since most have figured out that its not worth it to chance. (on stock internals at least).
if it were safe to run those HP levels, im pretty sure we would be hearing a 500hp VQ pop up every other week as the norm.
There are people on that forum who have run 450-500whp for many 10,000s of miles without a hitch on a stock bottom end because of a great tune and careful monitoring/safety measures, then there are those who have blown their engines at 325whp because of a bad tune or poor treatment. There have been some rare cases where someone made over 500whp for long periods of time on the stock bottom end, but those people obviously had great tunes, most were using E85, and were prepared for the eventual engine build.
My guess is that 1swtmax has a solid tune and his engine has lasted and will last at >400whp for a long time to come as long as he continues to treat it right.
My guess is that 1swtmax has a solid tune and his engine has lasted and will last at >400whp for a long time to come as long as he continues to treat it right.
and not just 1swtmax but i think rrodriguez (i think thats his screen name) and a few others that have their VQ's around the 400 mark, are all on pretty solid tunes since i havent read about any major problems in the recent past.
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"well what about 350z's/370z's/g35s/g37s?"
im pretty sure all those cars can handle over 400 hp with no problem at all with stock internals. its not going to turn it into a "ticking time bomb". not to mention that they make stillen supercharges for the 370 and g37 that boost the hp from 332 to 515. and all those guys that are having trouble with their bottom ends when they boost are the same guys that boost their 150,000+ miled vq. you cant put that type of horsepower on ANY car with that much mileage with out rebuilding your engine and tranny.
im pretty sure all those cars can handle over 400 hp with no problem at all with stock internals. its not going to turn it into a "ticking time bomb". not to mention that they make stillen supercharges for the 370 and g37 that boost the hp from 332 to 515. and all those guys that are having trouble with their bottom ends when they boost are the same guys that boost their 150,000+ miled vq. you cant put that type of horsepower on ANY car with that much mileage with out rebuilding your engine and tranny.
true that....but if you look closer...there is no engine warranty after stage 2
http://www.350z-tech.com/zwiki/Stillen_Supercharger_Kit
..meaning that stillen has figured out that the VQ can safely run 95-100 more at the wheels without putting anything in jeopardy...anything higher...and you're on your own..
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I would say the main reason for not going past the 400 range is ummm something called traction. While having all that power is fun but kind of worthless cause of traction. These cars (maximas) with that much power are only good on the highway, 1/8 and 1/4 mile SUCK. And dude my car has been boosted now for 3 years and I push 10 psi on high boost. I have no problem or engine issues.
well when you quoted my post, i was actually referring to max owners such as yourself that are pushing that HP limit with no problems but anything more and you're playing with knives....