02 maxima 6MT HLSD vs. 05 Altima SER autotragic
03-21-2011, 07:30 AM
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02 maxima 6MT HLSD vs. 05 Altima SER autotragic
alright, so my buddy texts me the other day asking if my maxima could beat an SER thats stock and automatic. i tell him for sure... but then i start looking at the specs. His brother owns a shop and had one in there and the guy ripped it on the test drive and let the mechanic do the same while he was a passenger. he was suprised at how quick they were.
so i believe that because i have the 6MT and LSD that give me somewhat more of an advantage over non lsd automatics (maxima)
come spring ill have intake spacers, torque mount, intake, maybe VIAS plate although i may pass on that and light *** 18" wheels. so my car has minimal mods.
i am not posting this to try and gain bragging rights or whatever, just once i started looking into them they suprised me a bit and it got me wondering, i thought they had a bit less power than they do. personally i love the alitima SER's.
guy said he may wanna race in the spring. i dont race on the street so ill have to take it to the track but ill do best of 3 and throw down $200 to make in interesting lol
so i believe that because i have the 6MT and LSD that give me somewhat more of an advantage over non lsd automatics (maxima)
come spring ill have intake spacers, torque mount, intake, maybe VIAS plate although i may pass on that and light *** 18" wheels. so my car has minimal mods.
i am not posting this to try and gain bragging rights or whatever, just once i started looking into them they suprised me a bit and it got me wondering, i thought they had a bit less power than they do. personally i love the alitima SER's.
guy said he may wanna race in the spring. i dont race on the street so ill have to take it to the track but ill do best of 3 and throw down $200 to make in interesting lol
03-21-2011, 08:06 AM
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i am asking how they compare to each other. i thought some people on here might have some insight or opinions on the SER that i would be interetsed in hearing.
i also stated that i was supried at their stock HP rating, i thought it was under the maxima but turns out its the opposite.
I want to hear peoples opinions on the SER and how it drives and compares to a maxima. i would compare it to a car i own rather than a car i have never driven.
i also stated that i was supried at their stock HP rating, i thought it was under the maxima but turns out its the opposite.
I want to hear peoples opinions on the SER and how it drives and compares to a maxima. i would compare it to a car i own rather than a car i have never driven.
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03-21-2011, 08:14 AM
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ya i guess so. I lost (dead) a puppy yesterday and im a little on edge.
only made this thread to get some opinions, not try and tell people what simple bolt on mods i plan on doing or that im going to race which, which if i do will not be onthe streets
i wasnt so suprised but i did think they had less hp. i know they are not far off from each other but i thought someone could give me some input as to how it compares to mine ( in twerms of handing and whatnot) as i do like the SER's alot. very nice cars for sure
only made this thread to get some opinions, not try and tell people what simple bolt on mods i plan on doing or that im going to race which, which if i do will not be onthe streets
i wasnt so suprised but i did think they had less hp. i know they are not far off from each other but i thought someone could give me some input as to how it compares to mine ( in twerms of handing and whatnot) as i do like the SER's alot. very nice cars for sure
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03-21-2011, 08:20 AM
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So basically it’s a drivers race.
The 5AT has nearly identical ratios from 0-100, but after that, the 6MT is better set-up to deal with post 100 MPH speeds due to their gear ratios, but if only doing the common 1320ft (or in your case perhaps 1000ft.) it won’t matter because you won’t reach those speeds in order to take advantage of the ratios. But you never mentioned what you are trying to compare to.
Also, the I believe the L31 5AT is the exact same as the A34 5AT (ratios, etc). With a slight marketing ploy for a bit more HP. Probably due to special low restriction mufflers. On a forum like this, that marketing ploy means crap since most if not all of us probably have an aftermarket exhaust anyhow.
It was when Nissan put in the new FWDVQ35 in the L32/A35. That engine is more powerful and is a different animal, but, that’s not what you asked.
They may have a slight handling advantage in stock form also, but who here is stock form?
That's why we have car magazines for comparisons.
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03-21-2011, 06:11 PM
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The Se-r's, I believe, weigh about 300lbs less then the 5.5 max. BUT it's not going to make much of a difference at all. As long as you can bang though your gears and "know" how to drive/race, I think you will walk him.
03-21-2011, 06:31 PM
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This would be a case where the driving skills of the 6 speed driver would probably determine the winner. Probably pretty close.
Bench racing threads ftw
Bench racing threads ftw
03-21-2011, 09:11 PM
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can an auto be made to be as fast as stick?
sucks that you're asking a serious question.
03-22-2011, 06:48 AM
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Judging from past dyno data, etc. It doesn’t matter the car in question. The 2nd- probably 4th gen FWD VQ35 4AT/5AT all dyno about the same. Of course the 6MT dynos a bit higher, and all quarter mile times are consistent, with of course the 6MT having a slight advantage.
So basically it’s a drivers race.
The 5AT has nearly identical ratios from 0-100, but after that, the 6MT is better set-up to deal with post 100 MPH speeds due to their gear ratios, but if only doing the common 1320ft (or in your case perhaps 1000ft.) it won’t matter because you won’t reach those speeds in order to take advantage of the ratios. But you never mentioned what you are trying to compare to.
Also, the I believe the L31 5AT is the exact same as the A34 5AT (ratios, etc). With a slight marketing ploy for a bit more HP. Probably due to special low restriction mufflers. On a forum like this, that marketing ploy means crap since most if not all of us probably have an aftermarket exhaust anyhow.
It was when Nissan put in the new FWDVQ35 in the L32/A35. That engine is more powerful and is a different animal, but, that’s not what you asked.
They may have a slight handling advantage in stock form also, but who here is stock form?
That's why we have car magazines for comparisons.
So basically it’s a drivers race.
The 5AT has nearly identical ratios from 0-100, but after that, the 6MT is better set-up to deal with post 100 MPH speeds due to their gear ratios, but if only doing the common 1320ft (or in your case perhaps 1000ft.) it won’t matter because you won’t reach those speeds in order to take advantage of the ratios. But you never mentioned what you are trying to compare to.
Also, the I believe the L31 5AT is the exact same as the A34 5AT (ratios, etc). With a slight marketing ploy for a bit more HP. Probably due to special low restriction mufflers. On a forum like this, that marketing ploy means crap since most if not all of us probably have an aftermarket exhaust anyhow.
It was when Nissan put in the new FWDVQ35 in the L32/A35. That engine is more powerful and is a different animal, but, that’s not what you asked.
They may have a slight handling advantage in stock form also, but who here is stock form?
That's why we have car magazines for comparisons.
thank you for your informative reply. this is what i was looking for. just wanted some opinions and insight. guy was thinking of selling and i had a buddy interested but he didnt want the auto which is understandable
03-22-2011, 06:51 AM
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03-22-2011, 10:35 AM
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or you could read it over and realize i will, but only at the track. lost my license already and paid 12k in lawyers to get it back
and far from a benchracer, been to the 4+km track here near toronto and drag as well. havnt had the max out at the track though. first track day with it is may 28th
and far from a benchracer, been to the 4+km track here near toronto and drag as well. havnt had the max out at the track though. first track day with it is may 28th
03-22-2011, 10:40 AM
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or you could read it over and realize i will, but only at the track. lost my license already and paid 12k in lawyers to get it back
and far from a benchracer, been to the 4+km track here near toronto and drag as well. havnt had the max out at the track though. first track day with it is may 28th
and far from a benchracer, been to the 4+km track here near toronto and drag as well. havnt had the max out at the track though. first track day with it is may 28th
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03-22-2011, 02:54 PM
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I think the maxima will win all day in my opinion
03-22-2011, 02:54 PM
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I raced a altima ser in my 02 maxima and walked it
03-22-2011, 05:32 PM
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3225-3273 is what this site shows for the 2002-2005 Altimas.
Side by side, an Altima is as big as a Maxima, my neighbor had one and parks next to me all the time.
03-22-2011, 06:12 PM
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http://www.modernracer.com/nissanaltima35se.html
3225-3273 is what this site shows for the 2002-2005 Altimas.
Side by side, an Altima is as big as a Maxima, my neighbor had one and parks next to me all the time.
3225-3273 is what this site shows for the 2002-2005 Altimas.
Side by side, an Altima is as big as a Maxima, my neighbor had one and parks next to me all the time.
03-22-2011, 11:02 PM
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if both cars were 6spds it would be a fair race. Seeing as the altima is a auto and the maxi is a stick..of course it has the advantage. The maxima might weigh more but he has better throttle response and more top end. If you want yourself a real se-r race..race someone thats got a 6spd..but still Idk why you would be surpised that theyre so different when basically they use the same engine and components..of course its going to be a close race...just not a fair one bc ones auto and ones manual.
03-23-2011, 04:12 AM
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The simple fact that u are asking about a auto se-r that probebly runs a 15.0 on avg and a 6mt that avg 14.4's-7, then ill pick the se-r, driver may be needed for this here 6spd.... if you think the aut had a chance then what u think about the 6spds???....
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