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So im looking into purchasing KYB GR-2s and the Eibach pro kit and was wondering, is anyone else running this same setup? I would as well be buying all the boots, mounts, ect.

Parts:
KYB GR-2 ( 2 Front and 2 Rear)
Eibach Pro Kit
Front Mount ( 2 Front)
Rear Mount ( 2 Rear)


I know i need boots or bump stops, but now my question is whats the difference between the both or are they both the samething??

I need a whole brand new suspension set up so Im trying to buy everything at once.

Please let me know if I am missing anything or if I should add anything else to the list.

Thanks in advance,
Luis

 

boots and bumpstops are not the same things. A boot is a cover protecting the strut rod from the elements of the outdoors. Bumpstops limit your suspension travel. Its a piece of foam on the rod to keep the shock/strut body front hitting the mount. With the Eibach kit it will come with directions for trimming the Maximas bumpstops. I have 3/4" of bumpstop. Have to trim them to allow for the amount it has been lowered. I have 20's. No problems on stock shocks/struts.

 

The OEM boots are boots and bumpstops all in one but if you purchase the lastset style KYB's they're a 2 piece setup as mentioned above^^^^ a styrofoam like bumpstop and a plastic like boot....I know my Illuminas and Progress SS package suggest that 1/3"-1/2" be trimmed from your bumpstops....don't cut it in half or evertime you hit a sharp bump it's gonna bang pretty loud! Just a 1/3" will suffice...GL

 

STAY AWAY FROM KYB DUSTBOOTS/BUMPSTOPS.

Buy OEM only.

And instead of getting KYB front mounts, get Moog. Oh, and you don't need rear mounts.

OP, where are you located?

 

I'm located in miami, fl. Why what's up?

 

BUY NAPA Bumpstops and boots. High quality and 100% better than OEM. I've posted this several times before, but apparently it's not catching on...

...These allow for cutting and still using boot without being loose.

Pics once again...

FRONT cut vs uncut


FRONT in boot


REAR cut vs uncut


REAR in boot


They fit nice and snug, do what they were meant to do and look good doing it. Have been running them for 16k miles now...

 

I'd have helped you with the install.

 

Stay away from strut + spring combos IMHO.. I had the roughest ride with Eibachs on Illumnias.. Thought my front end was going to break on every bump.. (I also had a Stage 2 LTB before the end to help with stiffening the front)

Do it right the first time and buy some BCRacing coilovers (Heard they were pretty good quality) or the JICs... Heard the Tein's coilovers were pretty harsh too.

 

So...you're recommending that someone not pick ANY spring/strut combo because of your ONE experience with a set of springs that are KNOWN to be the harshest option available?

And then you go and recommend BC coilovers because of what you've heard, and not based on actual experience?

Doesn't make much sense to me. I'm all for members offering their opinion, but please, offer it when it's fair and well-rounded, NOT anecdotal or hearsay.

 

DJ, the entire ORG is anecdotal... that's the underlying theme of forum information. There are very few instances of systematic study. And it takes a great deal of familiarity with the threads and the members to realize which opinions carry more weight and are more likely to be accurate and deserving.

With that said, OP, listen to djfrestyl.

 

Touche, sir, anecdotal indeed.

 

Lol, did I strike a nerve with my opinion? Cool. Nobody has to listen to me, that's why its an opinion. Its not like I'm recommending someone clean out their engine oil by running water through it..

Besides, with Eibachs he would have known that they were the roughest riding spring just by searching.

and I recommended the BC Coilovers because they were at a decent price between the Teins and the JICs. and I heard (d-(^.^)z) that a lot of Evo, Z/G, STi, my mother's father's sister's brother's girlfriend's former roommate used them.

I apologize for sharing my experiences with a similar setup to what the OP was thinking about getting. Good luck

 

OP your on the right track ... there is nothing wrong with a spring plus strut setup (other wise Nissan would have put coilovers on every car they make). At the very least you now have a fresh understanding of the Boot and the Bump Stop and what their purpose is. I run on KYB GR2s with S-Tech springs (but I wanted the largest drop possible without having the expense of coilovers). If your looking for a mild drop and a ride similar to OEM then you might want to read a bit on H&R springs. If your interested in sport driving and great control then you have selected the right spring in Eibach's.

As stated above if you have questions on suspension then djfrestyl is your go to guy for the answers.

 

how do you guys think Eibach pro kit and KYB GR-2s would ride???
or KYB GR-2s with Tein H-tech...

which would you guys reccomend?

 

Check this link, as it shows how the car will look with the different springs installed and at the bottom give a little info on the ride each will give.

http://www.shiftice.com/spring_strut_decision.html

 

I've had both the GR-2/Eibach and GR-2/H&R setups in the last few months and I definitely prefer the H&R setup because of the better ride quality (although, the uneven drop is driving me crazy). The Eibach's handle great and gives an even-looking drop, however, the cracks/joints in the road were much more noticeable and jarring...especially at higher speeds. Perhaps pairing Eibach's with Illuminas would be a better choice and allow for some fine tuning.

djfrestyl installed my setup and has done so for many members over the years, so I'd give a little credence to his tips/suggestions.

 

Got the Eibachs and like how they are, pretty harsh but I feel more due to 20s and 35 series tires....

 

I'm on 20's and 35 series rubber as well as the Eibachs and stock shock/struts. A+ ride quality on all types of roads. Don't fear speedbumps, dips, driveways. No road noise til the tires are low in life. View profile for a picture. 170k miles and my opinions are - Change BumpStops and boots and don't forget to trim the bumpstops. - Had GR2's on a different car and "I" thought they were to blame for bad ride quality so I went with factory Sh/St on the Maxima with Eibachs and A+.

*I now beleive that GR2's were just the wrong setup for that current vehicle.

KYB has been OEM on Nissan for years and years. And according to my sources the stock shocks/struts are manufactured by KYB.

 

so go with these napa ones or OEM?

how much are the OEM ones?

 

This is my most trusted sources prices - FRONT- $105.47each The prices may not be the greatest but the shipping is fast and NO-BS/NO-HASSLE. They are specific so read titles when pertaining to parts not containing gaskets, o-rings in a kit. Ex: IACV, MAFS, TB. - www.autohausaz.com

eBay will be cheaper for a shock/strut package.

 

going from springs struts...to a full coilover setup. i agree with flip, i would go coilovers. the money you are about to spend on springs/struts..you can have a full coilover setup. BUT thats my opinion, so do what you want to.

 

Hey nismopc,

Are the ones from NAPA actually NAPA branded or another brand? Doesn't seem my local NAPA in Canada carrier them.

 

why NAPA over OEM?

 

maybe cheaper with same quality..napa is pretty renowned for good parts

 

Strut boots other than OEM suck big time....I regret much not having the OEM while I did the struts...Say better quality than OEM ?

 

The issue I have with the aftermarket boots is the fitment of the bumpstops. The hole is too small, they groan when moving on the piston. And they're 2 piece, and they're made of a foam which is impossible to cut.

OEM's are made of rubber which over time, do deteriorate. If OEM's were fully made of the plastic that the aftermarket boots are made of, that'd be best.

But it won't happen, and I'll choose one piece + fitment over material any day.

 

for OEM. I used the Moog bump stops and dust boot and in my humble opinion, the quality is poor.

 

So i Finally was able to order everything

Everything i have ordered and recieved already:

Kyb GR-2 ( 2 front and 2 rear)
2 Moog front strut mount assembly ( from amazon like you told me)
Tein H- Tech Lowering Springs
2 Front dustboost.

Now my question is, do i really need the two rear dustboots????

nissan said they would have to order it from NY and it would get here by tues or wends of next weeks which is 5/24 or 5/25 but im trying to do the install this sunday with my buddy. I already have the front set.

 

They're preventative. If you're ok with debris potentially messing up your struts, then fine, you don't need them.

But the RIGHT way to do the job is to have them in there.

If it's a matter of time, wait. Or do the fronts then do the rears when you get the parts. or do the entire job this weekend, and redo the rears when you get the boots.

Frankly, just because you WANT to do the job this weekend isn't enough of a reason for you to be hasty. Do it right.

 

When I had my 97 Maxima I had Eibach Springs and KYB- GR2s...they were FANTASTIC, not SUPER stiff where when you run over a tiny crack in the roack it knocks your teeth out,....but not feeling when you turn and the whole car lean...it was perfect, stiff but not abusive.....I would assume the ride quality would be the same for the 5 gen. Right now I just installed Eibach Springs with the Tokico blue shocks......feels a little more stiff than the KYB-GR2s...but NO complaints...still excellent ride quality. Hope that helps.

 

4th gen/5th gen spring rates on Eibach are different. They're decent on 4th gen but definitely stiff on 5th.

 

Well guys, I finally installed my Tein H-Techs and love the drop, wish it could be a bit lower in the rear but couldnt go any lower do to the fact i tow a jet ski with my car . My right front strut was blown BADLY. The front left was gone to but not as bad.


I replaced....

• 4 struts with KYB GR-2s
• stock shocks with Tein H-techs
• 2 Moog front strut mount assembly
• 2 Front OEM dust boots with bumpstops ( cut 1 inch off the bumpstop)

Now on with all the good stuff... PICTURES YAY lol

ENJOY

The beggining,

 

The building....
Tein H-Tech, KYB- GR2s, OEM dust boots with bump stops

 

The Finish product with G35 18" 7 spokes...

 

So what do you guys think???

if you are going to hate then dont say nothing at all and just push the back button.

 

Cleaner and nicer pics after a nice lil wash and wax... Sorry for all the pics but I love my car, I have allot of pictures.


Front:

Rear: and es i know i need thinner tires but one thing at a time

 

The day I finished before the springs settled after a wash I took it to the gas station to air up the tires since they have been sitting in my house for almost a year.

 

not to threadjack, but I can't start my threads yet...
I'm looking to replace my 130k+ struts with something like OEM but not at its price. Looks like I will be getting KYB GR2. Now, what should I get with them? I was advised:

Front KYB Strut Mount w/ Bearing
Rear KYB Shock Mount kit
Front KYB Strut Boot Kit
Rear KYB Shock Boot Kit

Should I get OEM boots instead? What about rear mounts? Looking at this thread I don't need the rear?

 

All you need is this...

i went with Moog products because everyone says they are way better in quality ( thanks sooo much djfrestyl)

(1) Moog K90431 Front Shock Mount
(1) Moog K90432 Front Shock Mount
(2) Two Front OEM dust boots with bumpstops ( come together)
(2) Two Rear OEM dust boots with bumpstops (come together as well)

amazon actually has the moog parts for cheaepr and have free 2nd day air shipping when you sign up with them.

which i actually have two rear OEM dust boots with bumstops for sale. check my thread here
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...brand-new.html

 

I PM'ed you about your classified ad.

(1) Moog K90431 Front Shock Mount
(1) Moog K90432 Front Shock Mount

are you sure this is the right part number? what's coming up from the search is a swaybar end link kit for each of these...

(2) Two Front OEM dust boots with bumpstops ( come together)
(2) Two Rear OEM dust boots with bumpstops (come together as well)

I'm just wondering why not get the mounts for the rear? Just trying to understand the whole thing.