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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 08:11 PM
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gas gauge actin wakky

hey guys my gas gause started acting funky if i fill up i reads correctly onces it gets to 1/4 of a tank it goes up to around half and not move sometime it goes down and reads correctly and sometime it doesnt. what can i do to fix this problem and gettin ready to leave to vegas and i dont want to stay stranded due to lack of gas lol
Old Jun 11, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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Mine acts up when it gets to the 1/4 mark also. I always reset the trip odometer and I know that I get 380 miles per tank so whenever the gauge hits the 1/4 mark or the miles hit 320 I fill it up (your mileage be vary). At least I won't get stranded that way. If you find the cause then let us know. I think in the 2K Max the fuel sensor and fuel pump are integrated so I'm not going to replace it.
Old Jun 11, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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really that sucks is this a common problem with the 5th gens, it was working fine, to fix this problem would i have to remove the whole fuel pump assembly? that would suck anyone who has had this problem and fixed can you guys help us lol
Old Jun 12, 2011 | 10:44 PM
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so this is the closest thread i could find to my question, and im not trying to be a thread jacker, but it seems like my DTE gauge is higher than it should be lately and im not sure why , when i first got the car at around 36 miles till empty my gas light would go on and start blinking but now say i have like 84 miles but the light will go on and start flashing, is it just a bad sensor ?
Old Jun 14, 2011 | 05:46 PM
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i really need to fix this beccause i ran out of gas today i tough i had at least a quart but i had none at all and gauge read more than a quart my dte dint even kicked in
Old Jun 14, 2011 | 06:04 PM
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Its really easy to pull the pump out to check the float.

Just follow the directions to replace the fuel filter. BTW, if you do take it out, you will need to replace the O Ring.

http://www.shiftice.com/fuel_filter.html
Old Jun 14, 2011 | 06:50 PM
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it is possible that floater is stuck. i fill up my tank the gauge reads fine
Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:59 PM
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I'm oddly pleased that I'm not the only person that is experiencing this issue...I've spent numerous weeks polling the internet looking for a solution to no avail. I've had since brought my car to the dealer..(I know, my first mistake). However at first they tried telling me my fuel pump, fuel sending unit, and filter* need to be replaced...after some pricing negotiation, I agreed to have the work completed. After 3 days...(really three days to repair) they called me to let me know my somewhat suspect fuel pump, sending unit were in fact operating correctly. "The problem lies in a intermittent short on the cluster gauge." Now...I have no SEL's nor has this been a persistent issue, but I can't really find anything or anyone that has had a similar diagnosis, while still having other parts of the cluster gauge operate completely accurately. Like another member mentioned I have practically accepted this issue and have since been tracking my milage. However I purchased another cluster gauge here on the .org to confirm this problem and have found it to solve my roaming gas gauge issue. However there is a significant re-design from my 02 SE gauge and the 03 SE? gauge resulting in the removal of what I believe to be the stepper motors behind the four respective gauges. the board is simply flat which drives my question of how the needed is regulated on this "newer" (O.E.M.) version. I would simply swap the gauges and call it a day, accept the milage is drastically off...(not in my favor, plus its illegal) and I haven't the confidence in removing the needles to un-solder and re-solder the correct odometer module...

Just my .02 sense, let me know if you guys have tried anything else.

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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 12:57 AM
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lol same **** is happening to me..smdh.. i just try to keep my tank atleast above the 3rd line so i dont run out of gas...
Old Jun 15, 2011 | 10:02 PM
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Hey maxspeed so by switching the cluster from ur 03 to an 02 cluster it fixed the problem ?
Old Jun 16, 2011 | 08:35 AM
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So I have an 02 SE and swapping the cluster gauge out from the 03 version has appeared to correct it...Due to the mileage issue though I've been forced to swap back to my "faulty" 02 cluster...unless I can find someone local to swap the odometer module for me...doubtful due to legal issues.

Has anyone tried anything different?
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fudge man so thats practially the only solution beside changing the cluster to an 02 model?
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so im going to attempt to fix this my self by taking the cluster apart and re solder what ever the hell is back there to see if that fixes the problem. so just to clear the this up the 03 models dont use stepper motors for the gauges?
Old Jun 16, 2011 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TallTom
Its really easy to pull the pump out to check the float.

Just follow the directions to replace the fuel filter. BTW, if you do take it out, you will need to replace the O Ring.

http://www.shiftice.com/fuel_filter.html

so if i take out the float and move it and if the gauge moves correctly with the float that means the flost is in good condition?


sorry for all the post im just trying to figuere this problem out
Old Jun 17, 2011 | 10:12 AM
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So the issue won't necessarily be corrected with either the 02 or 03 model as both should work. From what I've read though the 02 model is more susceptible to this strange fuel gauge variation. As to wether the stepper motors are the casue...I honestly don't know if it is or what you could do, since I don't know where the test points on the board are....The float itself should be very straight forward..it moves the gauge moves...Let me know what you find...Rememeber if you take out the filter replace the o-ring, or for that matter the fillter too...
Old Jun 17, 2011 | 10:34 AM
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I've been suffering with this problwm for the past 3 years...swapped out my sending unit and cluster..and neither fixed my issue...
Old Jun 17, 2011 | 10:41 AM
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I am also struggling with this problem. Ive run out of gas once and barely limped into a gas station a few other times. Its been going on for over a year. PITA
Old Jun 17, 2011 | 04:39 PM
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called a guy who rebuild cluster in san diego ca and he basically told me the same thing i told him what my gauge was doing and he told me that he was 90 percent sure it was the fuel sending unit because the gauge would work sometime then it wouldnt so i called the stealership and they quoted me 90 bucks for the fuel sending unit and i asked for giggles how much a new cluster would be and its 600 dollars so im really hoping its my fuel sending unit lol. i take out the float and just move it and the gauge should move if it doesnt that mean its shot?
Old Jun 17, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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hey guys im sorry to bug again but did ur gauges did the same thign as mine they would work get stuck then work again or did they just stopped working at all ?
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I'd be interested in your outcome with swapping the fuel sending unit...luckily in our cars the fuel pump and Fuel sending unit is to separate components. $600 for a new cluster isn't bad when comparing the dealership in Boston, MA wanted $900...haha. Ironically just moved to San Diego for work...mind me asking who you called for the cluster rebuild?
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hey max you said your car is an 02 and your gas gauge was acting wacky correct and then you swapped to an 03? the guy i talked specializes in gm clusters because they have the stepper motor but since you said your 02 cluster does have a stepper motor then the guy i talked to can maybe help you his name is daniel and he lives in escondido ill look for hi number and post in a bit
Old Jun 17, 2011 | 10:59 PM
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pm you the info already
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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My mechanic has had my 5.5th Gen for various reasons including this one for the past 2 weeks....

after changing the sensor..and checking everything else... we're onto replacing the entire cluster for $650.

from what he says.. when the sensor goes bad, it sends a surge to the cluster/circuit board, and since you can't replace that one part, you have to replace the entire thing

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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 04:18 PM
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damm that sucks. im going to swap out my fuel sending unit sometime this week and hopefully that does it. my gauge has been reading normakl for the past two days but today it started acting funny again ill keep you guys posted and dirtylicious let me know how the cluster swap comes out.
Old Jun 21, 2011 | 05:58 AM
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Damn, I'm having the same frustrating problem. I'm going to try and find a cluster to swap with.
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yeah its getting anoyying im going to start off by replacing fuel sending unit hopefully and im praying to god its that
Old Jun 21, 2011 | 07:30 PM
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Gas gauge is fine on mine....if i fill up completely, it goes above full though....but empty is empty. The float arms can become gummed up over time or the float itself could have a hole in it giving an inaccurate reading. Had gas gauge problems in both of my DSMs....common issue with those cars.
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hit it with a hammer.
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jajajaja makes me wanna burnt it lol instead of hitting it with the hammer lol, yeah mine works fine i fill up completely is goes above full and goes down normal it would get stuck above 1/4 of tank sometimes its would go down fine to empty hopefully its that going to the dealership tommorow also buying the gas filter since everythign is going to be out of the tank lol
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Keep us updated here michael454rs
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ok people so i just order the floater and the gas filter and a required o ring i dont know lol should be gettin them wed of next week ill keep you guys updated of the results hopefully their postitive ones lol
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Mine started acting up yesterday, Light came on and the DTE started flashing the dashes, pull into the gas station and it only took 15.1 gallons for a full fill-up, last time this happened it took 17.1
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update on the problem i was supposed pick up my parts today and i get a call from the dealer saying that they cant find the fuel sending unit anywhere there going to have an answer to for me tommorow saying by when they can have here.
Old Jul 2, 2011 | 10:03 AM
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so i picked up the float and fuel filter on thursday an swapped out this morning. it was a pretty easy adn straig forward job. too me longer to take remove the back seat. but finally did whole job took me about 30 min. looks like it was a success. whent to the gas stationg pumped some gas now im going to use the car the whole day today to see what reaction i get from the gauge. hopefully that all it needed. ill keep you guys posted on what the final results are lol.
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well new float dint jackk SHI* so i guess i need to buy a new cluster called my local nissan dealer they quoted me $630 for a new cluster. any one out there figuered out a solution for this problem? dont whant to buy a used cluster im afraid i will eventually fail. anyone gotten a cheaper quote for a new cluster. the guy told me my new cluster would come with the current mileage on the car just have to take the car in.
Old Jul 5, 2011 | 07:52 PM
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Huh... Little worried now.

235 miles on a half tank seemed too good to be true.
Old Jul 5, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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yeah samethign here took along got back home with a half a tank supposably. turned on the next gauge was reading empty. just bought a used cluster with 10,000 miles hopefully it works just need to find a company to correct the mileage i think i just found one that located in orange county california going to shoot them an email and see whats up. apparanttly the only fix to this problem is to get another cluster this bites
Old Jul 5, 2011 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by michael454rs
yeah samethign here took along got back home with a half a tank supposably. turned on the next gauge was reading empty. just bought a used cluster with 10,000 miles hopefully it works just need to find a company to correct the mileage i think i just found one that located in orange county california going to shoot them an email and see whats up. apparanttly the only fix to this problem is to get another cluster this bites
Sorry to hear it wasn't the float...unfortunately I had a feeling it was going to be the gauge...Let me know if you're able to track someone done regarding correcting the mileage on the new cluster gauge. As I mentioned before I'm in the same position.

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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 10:14 PM
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Yeah man i hoped but i knew it was the gauge just wanted to make sure. Ill sure let u know when i find someone to correct the mileage thanks for the help
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this **** is frustrating .. said i was at half a tank yesterday and all of a sudden car turned off while i was taking an exit .. luckily i got it started and to the gas station up the road and it ran fine.



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