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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 06:20 PM
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BOP idea ....for more hp

If the bop plate was more of a bowl shape instead of flat, wouldn't it increase air volume in the manifold and make more hp

edit my ideal jul 19 at 9:14pm est

so what are your guys thought on this

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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 06:42 PM
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To increase plenum volume? Hmm...
Old Jul 19, 2011 | 06:48 PM
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I aready hit up Aaron with the idea on here and email hope to hear from him soon..

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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 11:40 PM
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First it is an idea not ideal, second bowel, really? I think u mean bowl....
Old Jul 20, 2011 | 12:45 AM
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In terms of increasing the plenum volume, I think the change would be too small for appreciable results. Additionally, I highly doubt the cost of producing such a part would justify the added performance. Plus, who really wants a goiter hanging off the side of their intake manifold?

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First it is an idea not ideal, second bowel, really? I think u mean bowl....
Where would we be if a Clashez post were not rife with misspelling, incorrect word usage and all-around bad grammar!
Old Jul 20, 2011 | 06:21 AM
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Somebody hit up Sparks with this.
Old Jul 20, 2011 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by tcb_02_max
In terms of increasing the plenum volume, I think the change would be too small for appreciable results. Additionally, I highly doubt the cost of producing such a part would justify the added performance. Plus, who really wants a goiter hanging off the side of their intake manifold?
My thoughts x2.
Old Jul 20, 2011 | 07:00 AM
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My thoughts x2.
damn i figured u would be on board for this, even if incressed by 2whp over the other style it would be better then a reg bop. lets not shoot it down, til we can get one made and tested
Old Jul 20, 2011 | 07:12 AM
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I'd think the design would negate performance due to the extra turbulence caused by the intake air 'swirling' outside of the air flow zone.

You want to extend volume in the path the air actually flows...not dead space.
Old Jul 20, 2011 | 07:21 AM
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What if clashez's "bubble bop" capped the internal opening between the upper and lower shelf, and moved that opening into the bubble section? That certainly extends the air volume.

Clashez, I just gave your idea a name.

The Bubble BOP.

Old Jul 20, 2011 | 07:28 AM
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I would think it may hinder a good airflow as well. A bulbous shape for air to go in and whirl instead of straight to combustion.
Old Jul 20, 2011 | 07:34 AM
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I would think it may hinder a good airflow as well. A bulbous shape for air to go in and whirl instead of straight to combustion.
+1 this isn't a good idea.
Old Jul 20, 2011 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MrEous

You want to extend volume in the path the air actually flows...not dead space.
Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

I see what you tryin to say clash, but in this application, it just won't work.

And even if someone did try this and saw a 1hp gain, that 1hp can be attributed to a ton of variables such as minute changes in weather, operating temperature, the alignment of the planets, etc...

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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 03:21 PM
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 03:33 PM
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Like the BOP I have now and wouldent you have to rocate that wiring harness somewhere if it was a.bowl type.....
Old Jul 20, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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^ This.

There's a wiring harness that sits right next to the BOP. In order to have anything other than a flat piece of machined aluminum, you'd have to relocate that harness elsewhere. And that thing is a PITA to move around to begin with.
Old Jul 20, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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No nothing huge, maybe like half a tennis ball size or smaller.
Originally Posted by Rods03Max619
Like the BOP I have now and wouldent you have to rocate that wiring harness somewhere if it was a.bowl type.....
Old Jul 20, 2011 | 03:55 PM
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Before I went turbo I always had the idea of adding a elbow where the BOP is and having dual intakes.. there isn't much clearance there though.. Then you would need dual MAFS and dual TBs.. a lot of work.
Old Jul 20, 2011 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Clashez
No nothing huge, maybe like half a tennis ball size or smaller.
You realize that would dramatically increase the cost to machine a BOP, right? From your other posts, you seem like an individual that does not pay premium pricing for small gains i.e. 1-2 hp. You would be paying well over a hundred dollars for that 'bowl' BOP. Good brainstorming, but I think it's time to go back to the drawing board.
Old Jul 20, 2011 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by nelledge
You realize that would dramatically increase the cost to machine a BOP, right? From your other posts, you seem like an individual that does not pay premium pricing for small gains i.e. 1-2 hp. You would be paying well over a hundred dollars for that 'bowl' BOP. Good brainstorming, but I think it's time to go back to the drawing board.
1-2 whp is just a guesstament, it could be well over that. you never really know in till tested
Old Jul 21, 2011 | 06:37 AM
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The increase in volume would be negligible to the point of never noticing a difference, plus like others have noted could cause some airflow oddities in the manifold. In order to increase volume, it needs to be done as a whole. Adding an extra chamber of air or a bump off to the side is not going to do much if anything positive.
Old Jul 21, 2011 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
The increase in volume would be negligible to the point of never noticing a difference, plus like others have noted could cause some airflow oddities in the manifold. In order to increase volume, it needs to be done as a whole. Adding an extra chamber of air or a bump off to the side is not going to do much if anything positive.
Given sparks' extensive history in this area, I'm thinking this is the expertise you were looking for, clashez. Props for creative thinking, but I'd call this one DOA.

Good to see you around again, sparks.
Old Jul 21, 2011 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Given sparks' extensive history in this area, I'm thinking this is the expertise you were looking for, clashez. Props for creative thinking, but I'd call this one DOA.

Good to see you around again, sparks.
What would I know about adding volume?



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