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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 08:56 AM
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Will 5th Gen Auto Motor Mounts in 5.5 Gen Manual work?

I'm most likely only doing the front mount, maybe the rear. I know the transmission mount won't work

Did some research and I knew that when Auto mount's go bad, some people tend to replace them with Manual mounts for a few reasons.

I also saw someone mention that short of the tranny mount, it is OK for an auto from 95-03 to use a manual from 95-03. Since I can get a free good condition OEM mount to use, I figure I'll take advantage of it.


Can someone please verify that I can use the Auto mount from a 2K1 on my 2K2 6MT?

I know I'll just leave the mount unplugged, but I believe
someone mentioned that the rubber inside (or inserts?) is a different size. Would this make any difference?
Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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It'll work, the center of the mount is still in the same location.

But more importantly, why?

It takes a lot of work to remove the crossmember and replace the mount...you can get all 4 mounts for like $110, shipped.
Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:45 AM
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Seems as if you're going backwards here. Most of us autos use the MT mounts.

They are very cheap and there's no reason why you would do what you're doing, so I agree with dj.


The auto mount is larger diameter than the MT mount, so with that said the AT bushing is larger than the MT bushing because of this.

What research did you do to come to this conclusion?
Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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I'm assuming you guys are referring to the ebay mounts.

The main reason why I'm doing this is cause of time. I'm trying to get this done tomorrow or friday and it's readily available for free. The rest of the mounts are in good condition as far as I know. The labor charge for it will be very low coupled with other stuff I'm having done.

I know the MT and Auto mounts are interchangeable for the reason that you mentioned that many go from Auto to MT mounts.
I know that the 95-03 mounts are interchangeable from reading some thread where someone mentioned (forget who at this point but I know it's someone that frequents the forums) that short of the tranny mount, the mounts holding up the engines are the same since the difference from the 3.5 to 3.0 is bigger bore, among other things that don't affect how the mounts hold them up.

Nmexmax, are you saying that due to the different sizes in the bushings, I shouldn't be able to use it in my 6MT?

I was under the impression that it would work and I'd just have an unnecessary connector which apparently djfrestyl seems to agree with.

Edit: Not sure which ebay ones you guys may be referring to since there are alot. Or did you mean from somewhere else?

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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by OnOiShNo0dl3Z

Nmexmax, are you saying that due to the different sizes in the bushings, I shouldn't be able to use it in my 6MT? It depends if you're cahnging the bushngs or the eniter mount assembly (metal frma + bushing).
That depends if you're trying to replace the AT bushing into the MT mount, or if this is a complete mount swap (complete mount = AT bushing + AT mount/frame combo).

Which I'm pretty sure it is, and if so then yes it will work.
Old Sep 14, 2011 | 12:04 PM
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^^ Correct. I'm talking about the entire mount, not just swapping one bushing into another bracket.

Also, there's nothing wrong with the eBay mounts. I've installed a half a dozen sets of them.
Old Sep 14, 2011 | 12:04 PM
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Yes, I believe they'll be taking the entire mount off of the AT with the frame, and replacing it rather than taking out the bushings.

Not sure which ebay ones you guys may be referring to since there are alot. Or did you mean from somewhere else?
Old Sep 14, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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Then you're fine.
Old Sep 14, 2011 | 01:55 PM
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So, what or who's not to say that the mounts going in are good or bad?
Old Sep 14, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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^^ +1. This also crossed my mind. There must be a reason they it was extracted from the car it was originally in.
Old Sep 14, 2011 | 03:13 PM
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I can see visible cracks on mine. The donor cars doesn't have that. The car is just a random parts car. It is still on the car.
Old Sep 14, 2011 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by OnOiShNo0dl3Z
I can see visible cracks on mine. The donor cars doesn't have that. The car is just a random parts car. It is still on the car.
Shoot me a PM on how much you want for the two MT mounts, I can just switch them Bushings with EnergySuspension ones....91911...zip code.....
Old Sep 14, 2011 | 05:42 PM
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I think the Auto mount is softer than the manual mount especially without the motorized function. I think your engine will be very sloppy during shifts.
Old Sep 14, 2011 | 06:35 PM
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Ebay mounts suck.
Old Sep 15, 2011 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by luvlexus101
Ebay mounts suck.
Are they that bad?

I think the Auto mount is softer than the manual mount especially without the motorized function. I think your engine will be very sloppy during shifts.
Not sure how true this is but I can say that with an auto w/ a stage II.5 VB mod, the PUR mounts were the single best mod to accommodate this VB mod.

Initially, I had even gone so far as to order a lower grade VB mod, but then decided to install the PUR bushings as a last resort, and WOW!!! Shifts are amazingly smooth now, but crisp as can be. With the OEM AT mounts w/, it felt like something was wrong, it would slam shift into gear and feel really bad.
Old Sep 15, 2011 | 09:05 AM
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Can you justify that in a better way knight?

Turns out the person I mentioned earlier in this thread who said that the 95-03 mounts all fit was you I believe.

I don't usually doubt you knight, but I would rather some more concrete proof if at all possible. As of now I get some vibrating at idle and through visual inspection, the front mount is bad.

Would doing this really potentially make my car worse..?
Old Sep 15, 2011 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by OnOiShNo0dl3Z
Can you justify that in a better way knight?

Turns out the person I mentioned earlier in this thread who said that the 95-03 mounts all fit was you I believe.

I don't usually doubt you knight, but I would rather some more concrete proof if at all possible. As of now I get some vibrating at idle and through visual inspection, the front mount is bad.

Would doing this really potentially make my car worse..?
Might be better since it's believed to be softer.

No one would have quantitative proof, and at this point, you're splitting hairs.

Get the work done tomorrow and let us know how it goes.
Old Sep 15, 2011 | 09:16 AM
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There might be a delay if the mechanic I'm going to has too much going on but I'm expecting sometime next early to mid next week if tomorrow doesn't happen
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