EXHAUST SYSTEM
10-09-2011, 04:51 AM
#41
Not trying to thread jack here, my question goes along with the OP's.
I'm in the market for a new exhaust set; there is current 133xxx miles on the OEM one and I think it's time for a change. I planned on keeping stock headers, but if I need to/should change them, I will, budget permitting. I want something that has a nice deep tone to it at idle but it not overwhelming when cruising. I've done searching and looking around and I can't seem to find everything that I need in one place.
Basically, what I am in need of, is exactly what parts would I need to buy and from what manufacturer in order to accomplish my goal. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
I'm in the market for a new exhaust set; there is current 133xxx miles on the OEM one and I think it's time for a change. I planned on keeping stock headers, but if I need to/should change them, I will, budget permitting. I want something that has a nice deep tone to it at idle but it not overwhelming when cruising. I've done searching and looking around and I can't seem to find everything that I need in one place.
Basically, what I am in need of, is exactly what parts would I need to buy and from what manufacturer in order to accomplish my goal. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
My exhaust is quite quiet as this in car recording shows. Listen carefully, you can hear the turn signal clicking.
For more information see this thread.
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...ml#post8249660
this may help: Mandrel Exhaust Systems <click there
Flowmaster and Flowtech make beautiful sound, but they will destroy your performance since they have more backup pressure than OEM mufflers
Flowmaster and Flowtech make beautiful sound, but they will destroy your performance since they have more backup pressure than OEM mufflers
Last edited by BobPezz; 03-10-2012 at 07:02 AM.
10-09-2011, 07:00 AM
#42
Would this setup be worth the money / install effort? Also, does anyone have this setup and if so did you notice any lower end power gains and does it have a nice tone? (don't want a fart can or rasp).
Finally, would this be a simple bolt on application or would I have to do modifications?
Sorry, not too mechanically inclined. Thanks y'all!
Finally, would this be a simple bolt on application or would I have to do modifications?
Sorry, not too mechanically inclined. Thanks y'all!
10-09-2011, 07:09 AM
#43
Would this setup be worth the money / install effort? Also, does anyone have this setup and if so did you notice any lower end power gains and does it have a nice tone? (don't want a fart can or rasp).
Finally, would this be a simple bolt on application or would I have to do modifications?
Sorry, not too mechanically inclined. Thanks y'all!
Finally, would this be a simple bolt on application or would I have to do modifications?
Sorry, not too mechanically inclined. Thanks y'all!
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...ml#post8249660
I'm not going to re-post everything about my exhaust here.
Last edited by BobPezz; 03-10-2012 at 06:56 AM.
10-13-2011, 07:48 AM
#44
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Would it be better to get a 3" or 2.5" exhaust if I still have stock headers and y pipe? The difference in price at a shop is not much so I just wondering if there will be any gains between the two?
Might get a y pipe down the road if that matters.
Might get a y pipe down the road if that matters.
10-14-2011, 04:18 AM
#45
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...ml#post8249660
I'm not going to re-post everything about exhaust here.
Last edited by BobPezz; 03-10-2012 at 06:55 AM.
10-14-2011, 09:49 PM
#46
Cost difference between 2.5" and 3" is usually pretty substantial. Especially if it's mandrel bent. There are many reasons for this, so I'm wondering how you're getting away with little cost difference at a shop?
10-15-2011, 08:41 AM
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Im not looking to get every hp out of the car so would a 3" crush bent work?
10-15-2011, 09:24 AM
#48
yes it will work but I'd have to let someone else comment on the sound it will make. The 3" systems are normally quite a bit louder.
As long as you put a decent resonator and keep your stock cat it should be ok I would think.....
As long as you put a decent resonator and keep your stock cat it should be ok I would think.....
10-15-2011, 11:22 AM
#49
Tuner what type of resonator do you suggest for the most quiet operation.right now i have a megan catback and the darn thing is just too noisy and after i drop this new engine in i want to keep it quiet.i know if i dropped my cattman in it would be a little better noise wise but im saving it for a 6mt if i find a nice one.but anyway i have 3 of the megan systems to hack up if i need to im even considering getting one of those mufflers off a X5 its got that valve like the nissan oe but its a stainless steel unit with a 2.5 inlet.
10-15-2011, 11:42 AM
#50
Another Successful Install/Satisfied SRS Exhaust Customer!
Though this is slightly off topic. I mentioned the SRS exhaust in the http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...ml#post8249660 thread. After seeing/hearing my Maxima SRS CatBack. My brother bought the ($200 inc./shipping) SRS CatBack for his daughter's Accord and we installed it today. To be brief, the biggest PITA was getting the stock exhaust off the hangers, SRS fitment/install was excellent, and the entire job including setup/cleanup took under 2hrs. on ramps. The sound (with the included silencer) is probably as pleasant as you'll ever hear on a Honda with a "Potato Launcher" muffler. It's quiet inside/outside the car with No Farting, Rasp, etc. And you can't hear the car driving away after about 20'.
Last edited by BobPezz; 03-10-2012 at 07:06 AM.
10-15-2011, 04:04 PM
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Yeah I'm not to worried about sound. I have friends that have had cars with little to no muffler and it was loud but by no means to loud to drive daily.
10-15-2011, 04:06 PM
#52
Sadly none of the shops can do mandrel bends or want to mess with piecing together mandrel bends so only option is crush bent which i know is not the best which is why the cost difference is little.
Im not looking to get every hp out of the car so would a 3" crush bent work?
Im not looking to get every hp out of the car so would a 3" crush bent work?
Last edited by Nexus67; 10-15-2011 at 04:08 PM.
10-15-2011, 04:53 PM
#53
It's a tough call, I say if you can get Mandrel bent 2.25" or 2.5" that would be much better than crush bent 3" for a cat back system. Although that could easily be argued.
Basically, cost is what it comes down to, if you're getting this done and installed for less than $150, and you only want it fixed, get the 3" crush.
If you want to free up some ponies and get a decent SS system on the cheap, that SRS seems like a half-way good product, certainly should be better than a crush bent slapped together muffler shop job. And you can pick that SRS system up shipped in the states for about $250, kind of a no-brainer if you want something cheap.
Anything with a 22" resonator or something close to that will cut out the raspyness that we all hate so much. And the noise and tone is then set by the muffler, so you have to make that call on your own. There's lots of threads on 'which muffler', although the search is on the fritz.
Basically, cost is what it comes down to, if you're getting this done and installed for less than $150, and you only want it fixed, get the 3" crush.
If you want to free up some ponies and get a decent SS system on the cheap, that SRS seems like a half-way good product, certainly should be better than a crush bent slapped together muffler shop job. And you can pick that SRS system up shipped in the states for about $250, kind of a no-brainer if you want something cheap.
Anything with a 22" resonator or something close to that will cut out the raspyness that we all hate so much. And the noise and tone is then set by the muffler, so you have to make that call on your own. There's lots of threads on 'which muffler', although the search is on the fritz.
10-15-2011, 05:23 PM
#54
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Yeah I'm having a hard time choosing which route to go because my stock exhaust is rusted on to tight for me to get it off(already tried and rounded off the nuts) so if I get a catback a shop will have to install it and then that will cost more then having a shop make up a 3" crush-bent exhaust.
I'm wondering if even though it might be crush-bent would be better then a 2.36" mandrel bent exhaust like the SRS.
I'm wondering if even though it might be crush-bent would be better then a 2.36" mandrel bent exhaust like the SRS.
10-15-2011, 05:41 PM
#55
Worth a look if it hasn't been posted already (they need to fix their website though, that 00-04 doesn't look right, for obvious reasons)
http://forums.nicoclub.com/3-perform...y-t530687.html
http://forums.nicoclub.com/3-perform...y-t530687.html
Last edited by Nexus67; 10-15-2011 at 05:46 PM.
10-15-2011, 06:02 PM
#56
Yeah I'm having a hard time choosing which route to go because my stock exhaust is rusted on to tight for me to get it off(already tried and rounded off the nuts) so if I get a catback a shop will have to install it and then that will cost more then having a shop make up a 3" crush-bent exhaust.
I'm wondering if even though it might be crush-bent would be better then a 2.36" mandrel bent exhaust like the SRS.
I'm wondering if even though it might be crush-bent would be better then a 2.36" mandrel bent exhaust like the SRS.
And I would just cut the bolts from the cat and remove the rest, replace it with the SRS system by yourself and pocket the extra money. The only hard part is getting the car up high enough to fit the b-pipe over the axel.
11-03-2011, 03:33 AM
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when I posted that both "Flowmaster" and "Flowtech" have high backup press; it's because they usually are constructed w/ restriction walls/tunnels (chambered) or if it's a see through it has a louvered core.. very bad for performance
"Cherry Bomb Glass Pack Muffler" are a great example for Louvered Core
when it's a see through muffler / resonator, you got make sure it's a DRILLED CORE not Louvered Core
"Cherry Bomb Glass Pack Muffler" are a great example for Louvered Core
when it's a see through muffler / resonator, you got make sure it's a DRILLED CORE not Louvered Core
Last edited by evoTimer; 11-03-2011 at 03:38 AM.
11-09-2011, 09:07 AM
#58
Not always true. http://www.zshare.net/audio/94751406a92f8016/ Caveat Emptor!
Doesn't sound bad, what exhaust is that again?
11-09-2011, 06:57 PM
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here is how my car sounds....i went to my friends muffler shop and installed SpeedRex (it was done about 4 yrs ago and love it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ06-9YKEHM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ06-9YKEHM
11-10-2011, 04:51 PM
#62
I'm surprised, you sounded a little apprehensive about going with the SRS. I think you'll be satisfied, it's a good exhaust for the price. I don't think you'll cut off the muffler when you hear it! BTW; If you don't mind me asking, what did you pay?
11-10-2011, 06:32 PM
#63
I'm already thinking of adding a longer resonator. No rasp, but the drone cannot be described as slight. Thanks for the sound clips and reviews, Bob.
11-10-2011, 08:18 PM
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Yeah i meant cut it off and put on a different mufflerr. Drone is my worst fear. I have a mustang and the drone becomes annoying on long trips. I think i got a good deal. Only paid $290. How will the exhaust note change if a Y pipe is added assuming i keep stock cat
11-11-2011, 03:57 AM
#65
How about, the drone is no worse than other catbacks. At least the tone isn't annoying, and with the radio on at moderate volume it's practically inaudible. Which IMO is pretty impressive for a 16" glass-pack resonator. Just an observation, drone seems to be an issue with mandrel bent Stainless systems in general. It may be due to the sonic differences of mandrel bent Stainless vs. crush bent Mild Steel. Stainless resonates differently than Mild Steel. And the restrictive crush bends may act like baffles in a muffler, restriction=quiet.
Last edited by BobPezz; 11-11-2011 at 04:36 AM.
11-11-2011, 04:07 AM
#66
Good price! I have no idea how a Y-Pipe or Gutted Pre-Cats/Headers will change the sound. But I'll let you know when I get the Cattman Headers/Y-Pipe/FastCat installed. That said, I've got a 22"x4"dia Magnaflow BNIB, just in case the tone/volume gets obnoxious.
11-11-2011, 09:13 AM
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Are you planning on getting a piggyback to tune or just going to assume it will be running fine? I plan on gutting the pre-cats and then getting a y pipe just because headers are a pain to put on and there are very few shops that will actually install headers without charging an arm and a leg
. I think your car will sound a little different due to having the 3.0L but should give me a good idea. When are you getting the Cattman headers?
11-11-2011, 09:18 AM
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I bought a 18" magnaflow 5x8 and had plans to install that and it was good size, but magnaflows mufflers are measure in I.D. and NOT O.D. so their 3" muffler is really 3.25 or something close to that. I am not sure if this would be loud but it was good size and straight through design. I think vibrate and some other smaller companies also make mufflers that may be a little more quiet. As long as you plan on getting a good resonator any muffler should work and keep it somewhat quiet. Otherwise get Cattman
11-11-2011, 12:52 PM
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Yes they are. But good luck finding tips for the muffler. I used magnaflow tips that said 2.25" I.D. and they did not fit over the muffler so make sure you get the right tips so it will slip over the muffler. Are you having the exhaust custom made or did you buy the BRM piping?
11-11-2011, 08:05 PM
#72
Yes they are. But good luck finding tips for the muffler. I used magnaflow tips that said 2.25" I.D. and they did not fit over the muffler so make sure you get the right tips so it will slip over the muffler. Are you having the exhaust custom made or did you buy the BRM piping?
11-11-2011, 08:15 PM
#73
Are you planning on getting a piggyback to tune or just going to assume it will be running fine? I plan on gutting the pre-cats and then getting a y pipe just because headers are a pain to put on and there are very few shops that will actually install headers without charging an arm and a leg.
I think your car will sound a little different due to having the 3.0L but should give me a good idea. When are you getting the Cattman headers?
. I think your car will sound a little different due to having the 3.0L but should give me a good idea. When are you getting the Cattman headers?
11-11-2011, 09:09 PM
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Hopefully you go to a shop that will actually believe 3" tubing will fit over the rear axle/suspension. Shops around here didn't want to bother because they thought it would not fit without banging around 
. I was not thrilled when I heard that.
So i settled on the srs exhaust which should be here around thanksgivings
.
. I was not thrilled when I heard that. So i settled on the srs exhaust which should be here around thanksgivings
.
11-11-2011, 09:20 PM
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Hopefully you go to a shop that will actually believe 3" tubing will fit over the rear axle/suspension. Shops around here didn't want to bother because they thought it would not fit without banging around . I was not thrilled when I heard that.
So i settled on the srs exhaust which should be here around thanksgivings.
. I was not thrilled when I heard that. So i settled on the srs exhaust which should be here around thanksgivings
.
11-12-2011, 07:34 AM
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Yeah thats why I wanted the bigger exhaust. I would take your car to a shop before you buy anything and make sure they will install a 3". If you live in a big city odds are you will find somewhere to install it. Good luck! Post videos when you are done.
11-12-2011, 11:16 AM
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SRS by Christmas.....well u make sure and do the same.
11-12-2011, 12:17 PM
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