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3.5 motor after sitting for 4 days started up like it had no oil in it.

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Old 01-08-2012, 06:25 PM
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3.5 motor after sitting for 4 days started up like it had no oil in it.

So I left town for 4 days and came home tonight. Went to start up my car and it rattled really bad so I shut it off really quick. I let it sit and decided to give it another try and it struggled to start and finally started and rattled less and finally got quiet. The garage smelled like gas after that. I drove it from my parents to my place (15 miles) and it seems fine now.

Anyone else have this issue?
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Old 01-08-2012, 06:28 PM
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#1 you need to check the oil
#2 you might have a fuel leak
#3 let me think some more and let others chime in.
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Old 01-08-2012, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 03VQMAX
#1 you need to check the oil
#2 you might have a fuel leak
#3 let me think some more and let others chime in.
I'm going to check the oil tomorrow since you have to wait a little after running the motor to check. Just had the oil changed about 500 miles ago. No oil light on either.

I was thinking that maybe it drained what fuel was in the fuel lines into the motor while sitting for so long but it started right up the first time.
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Old 01-08-2012, 07:42 PM
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Our cars have a tendency to flood if moved for a very short (start and stop) time than parked for a few days, it won't turn over right and takes some effort. Sounds like it was just flooded
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its happened to me previously. I could never find out the problem.
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by max-r95
Our cars have a tendency to flood if moved for a very short (start and stop) time than parked for a few days, it won't turn over right and takes some effort. Sounds like it was just flooded
That's fine and all but that doesn't really explain why it sounded as if it had no oil in the motor at start up the first time. It started up with no issues at first.

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its happened to me previously. I could never find out the problem.
The motor noise at start up? Or just the hard start?

Car running fine now?
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:40 PM
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Hasn't happened to me but you already know what to check...GL hope it isn't nothing...
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Old 01-09-2012, 05:08 AM
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What you heard is most likely due to the VTC rattle.
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Old 01-09-2012, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Shift_Max
What you heard is most likely due to the VTC rattle.
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Old 01-09-2012, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Shift_Max
What you heard is most likely due to the VTC rattle.
My motor rattles a little at start up when cold. I think this is what you're reffering too.

What I heard this time is the equivalent of starting a motor with no oil.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:01 AM
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What kind of oil filter are you using? Try a Nissan one and see if it helps. If it does, then the oil filter you used before didn't have a good anti-drainback valve.

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Old 01-09-2012, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dwapenyi
What kind of oil filter are you using? Try a Nissan one and see if it helps. If it does, then the oil filter you used before didn't have a good anti-drainback valve.

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Whatever NTB uses. I honestly didn't check. I will remember this and use one when I change my oil next.
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:36 AM
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Just checked my oil and it's about a half quart over filled. I checked my receipt from NTB from 1000 miles ago and under oil it says quantity of 6. Hmm
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having more oil is worse than having low oil. Dont drive on it and drain it. After sitting for a few days it probably just took awhile for the oil pump to get it to all the necessary engine parts. Its like when its cold and you have 10w-30 and the oil light comes on at start for a second or 2. It just takes awhile for it to flow.
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:45 AM
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I'm taking it back and getting my money back. They are going to fix their **** up. I paid for an oil change to be done properly an it wasn't.
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:38 AM
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You said that was over 1000 miles ago. Why didn't you look over your receipt when you first got it changed? You should always view oil change places as suspect when it comes to your car. I've found that not many shops know that our cars take 4.25 qts of oil, for that reason I do my own oil changes.
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Originally Posted by Maxgig
You said that was over 1000 miles ago. Why didn't you look over your receipt when you first got it changed? You should always view oil change places as suspect when it comes to your car. I've found that not many shops know that our cars take 4.25 qts of oil, for that reason I do my own oil changes.
The guy said the sheet does not reflect what they put in. Either way it's still over filled. I usually do my own oil changes but it was cold and I don't have a garage and was busy trying to get things ready for a trip.
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Fram filter let the oil drain back. I'd say that's normal.

You're just lucky the put oil back in it LOL.
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Over fill shouldn't cause a rattle, but it's not an exceptable situation. The excess oil should be removed to prevent seal damage.
Sounds like the oil filter emptied and upon starting the pump had to fill the filter first and then flow to the top of the engine. Didn't check to see where you are located, but if it's cold out, that would amplify the problem-especially with dino juice.
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