There is another thread going on and alot of you are flaming the 3 series.Saying that it's not fast and tat our max can kill them .Well for our information here are the stats for the 328 and 330.

328 330
193bhp @5500 rpm 225hp bhp@5900 rpm
206lb-ft@3500 rpm 214lb-ft @3500 rpm
0 to 60=6.6 sec o to 60 =6.0sec
1/4 mile in 15.0sec 1/4 mile in 14.7sec

Now the 328 is faster than the 3.2L maximas.The 330 for sure will take a 3.0 and might also be faster than the 3.5L maximas.But that's only in a straight line.I don't know if any of your have driven a 3 series but that car hugs the road and takes curves so easily and delivers smootly the power.

 

By the way i ment the 3.0L maximas

 

what r u a bimmer closet lover

its not just the power, the art of driving is something to keep in mind as well.

 

where did you get those numbers from? i found some info on the 330 on www.bmwusa.com, it claims 0-60 is 6.9(7.5) i'm assuming the lower number is a stick and the higher is an auto. they don't have info on the 328, did they stop making those?

 

Just for the record, i have a 2k2 Max and yes, i beat a 330ci manual. We were pretty much neck to neck up until the end of 2nd gear after which i pulled on him.

 

my bad, the 0-60 in 6.9(7.5) is for the 330xi, the 330i does it in 6.4(7.0), and so does the 330ci. however, the numbers you provided are still pretty liberal.

 

2k2 Max is a really nice car. But I think 330 is a better car, and alot more expensive. If I had the money, I would take a 330 over 2k2 Max, IMO

 

pleeease they're way overpriced cars that sell image! My stepbro owns a '01 325i stick, and told me his car is so forgiving that he can drive in the 4th gear at 20mph and won't stall, and how he loves the sound of exhaust. Nevertheless, he's afraid to put hiz *** on the line 'cause on the street I own him! No respect for BMW except M3 and M5 models.

 

As far as the argument about which car is faster stock...who the hell cares? How many of you who go to the track with your cars are stock? My car, personally, is the "Michael Edition" and no car mag has ever published numbers on it. The guys on the 3-series board are the same...so these numbers don't mean anything.


In my case, the "Michael Edition" is pretty darn close to stock, but I just used it as an example

 

I have no problem with Beemers of any series.

Nice cars and chics dig em...

But, the Max is an affordable alternative that can hold it's own against a lot of more expensive cars...

 

LOL!

I guess i got one of those too!

 

Who cares?

 

My 2K2 auto could take a 330ci 5-speed easily. The second time at the track with my car I beat a 330i 5-speed with intake and Supersprint exhaust. He ran a 14.6x and I edged him out with a 14.50 This guy knew how to drive too, he was banging the gears like a mad man

Daniel

 

daz right

 

You are a special one though, not everyone on the board runs 14.4s with auto maximas.. most run mid-high 15s, and how is that going to take out a 330i?

 

yeah, Maximas are about $15,000 cheaper...
buy a Maxima and get a supercharger with left over cash!!

 

who said anything about EXPENSIVE? i bought the 2KSE with gold and leather, cause i like the shape better than the bmw(any day). i could have easily purchased a 5 series ( non-M), but Y?
i like maximas. they are great cars and you have fun customizing them, and they look much better than the bmw 3 5 or 7 series!!
bmw has, in the past few years, just become a STATUS for the rich and black money fools.

i don't think u will get a chick to spread her legs any faster, if you have a bimmer, than you would if u drove a maxima

so 2 all u closet bimmer lovers, sell your maxima's and join the BMW forum

 

no he isn't that special.. another 2k2 Max owner ran mid 14's.. and not that man others ran.. so whats your point

 

he owns BMW.

 

I like BMW's but, the ROI sucks.

We should be comparing the max to the 5-series, if size "class" is the basis. The 3-series is a small car, hell the 5 is smaller than the Max.

Check this out:

530i 2002 Max Se 2002 (dim based on 2000)
WB 111.4 108.3
Lenth 188.0 190.5
W 70.9 70.3
H 56.5 56.5

Headroom
F/R 37.4/37.2 40.5/37.4
Legroom
F/R 41.7/34.2 44.8/36.2

Passenger Volume
cu ft 93 102.5
Cargo 11 15.1

0-60 6.8(7.0) ?/? 5.9/(6.9) - From some posts in the forum

$48,470 $30,700 - Pretty much the same options, max is loaded except for NAV.

EPA Class
Compact Car I believe is classed as Mid-Size Sedan


Far as I am concerned, I am tired of the over evaluation of European cars by changing the class in which they fall to make them look good or like a bargin. Have you noticed they rarely ever compare the Q45 to the 740, and S class, instead they use the little baby 5 series which is smaller, which gives it an instant upper hand in all tests.

The 3 series needs to fall in the Sentra SE-R camp(very close in size but not in lux items, I will not bother putting the data here), Altima (old), and the 5-series is our real comptetion.

Sorry for the long post

 

when a maxima is loaded what does it have?

 

you tell us.. you had 2

 

what r u a bimmer closet lover

its not just the power, the art of driving is something to keep in mind as well

 

I just speced the 530 like a 2002 Max SE Auto with all opts except NAV.

 

I look at the total package $ included. I like bimmers, but ...

 

No no, what I meant is there hasnt been many auto maximas that run mid 14s.

 

I had the choice of a bmw 328i or a Nissan Maxima SE. What car am I driving?

 

2k2TheMax has an auto. I don't have timeslips on mine, but like i said i beat a 330ci Manual as well. I too have a 2k2 Auto.

 

2k2 autos can beat 330s

 

Even the SCCA doesn't think the cars are in the same class. The 6 cyl, 3 series BMWs are D Stock - Class 5 (includes cars like Audi S4). Maximas are G Stock - Class 8 (same class as the Chrysler Cirrus V6).

http://www.scca.org/news/fastrack/01-06.pdf

 

what r u a bimmer closet lover

its not just the power, the art of driving is something to keep in mind as well

 

By the way u guys that say u beat 330Ci well Ci is for coupe which is heavier than the sedan which is quite slower.Just like the cl is heaviere than a tl.U guys might beat cl's but tl's are faster than a cl.

 

How much heavier is the coupe? I thought it was the other way around?

 

i like all cars. but a 330 would be nice... or a 318 with a M3 engine...yum.

 

Although I don't put too much weight in mags, when the Max won MT car of the Year in 95.
They said this car is like a BMW(v8) and not the 3 series.

When I did the size/class comparo above, I should have included the 540 given the "fact" that the 2002 Max performs near that level, at about half the cost.

Anyway the 3series is a nice little car. The Max is a Mid-size sedan larger than the 5 series.

and as far as driving dynamics, there is not a massive gap

It's simple, the max doesn't have the name. So when people go out and buy a car with less substance (3series) they have to justify the $$$, if not they look like fools when they get beat down by a car that is larger, faster, cheaper, sexy, and reliable.

I'm sure some may disagree, but I would bet a bunch of max owners considered a 3series before they bought a max, then realized what they were getting, and couldn't see paying $$$ for THAT

 

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU, man, those BS 330 numbers are quite amusing cause i see 5sp,(vs 5 sp 330) 3.0L's beat them all the time! Damn, does that mean we go 0-60 in 6.4 too? Those guys are just ****ed off cuz i have this huge argument going on with a guy on www.bimmerforums.com about how his 328i took out the new Altima (3.5L).... You should've seen his mods too, most were appearance and barely ANY performance, heck with all those other mods, his performance ones would bring the car back up to stock speed!

 

He has the 2k2 auto max, check it out, most peeps are running 14.4's with them

 

No offence, but you really should think before you type, first a 330 does 0-60 in 6.0 (that means it's nearly the speed of a WRX ), next you say the cl is heavier than the tl Everyone knows the TL is heavier than the CL and is also slower

 

you can get a maxima and spend the extra money on mods and itll be better then 3 series in any aspect...

 

Amen! Couldn't have said it better myself!