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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 10:47 PM
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Headers and Y... all a pain in my ****?

So I have been wanting to get some headers and a y for some time now... Only thing is the more I read about it the more it seems that they are all a pain in the a$$. o2 relocations/sims, ecu firing codes etc...

Is there any brands that are actually just direct bolt ons? or do they all require a bunch of fiddling?
Old Mar 22, 2013 | 11:06 PM
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In search of more power? We all are... With greater power comes greater maint.and planning. OBX V2's for 3.5 (equal length) and some underneath investigative work will yield gains. fitment should be spot on.
Old Mar 23, 2013 | 06:46 AM
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Headers come with y pipe, you don't buy both

Replacing headers is much harder than installing anti foulers.
You have it backwards if you think the anti foulers are the hard part.

Just pre plan it, its just A part of the header install
Old Mar 23, 2013 | 07:26 AM
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As long as you have access to a proper lift and decent tools etc also A buddy to help will make it go smoother. It really is not that bad.

I put my first set on about 5 years ago and of course getting the stock manifolds off was a pain but do-able. I just put new ones on again about 4 months ago and it took like 2 hours tops.
Old Mar 23, 2013 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ABIGBRAIN
With great power... comes greater maintenance and planning.
Dibs. Gonna try to fit this into my sig, lol.
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If you add any more to that ridiculous sig ima come bytch slap you.

Add that to your sig.
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
If you add any more to that ridiculous sig ima come bytch slap you.

Add that to your sig.
Yeah the quote from 95Maxed could go.... bye bye and be replaced by my words of wisdom. The here and now might be fun, but the everlasting is eternal.

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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
Headers come with y pipe, you don't buy both

Replacing headers is much harder than installing anti foulers.
You have it backwards if you think the anti foulers are the hard part.

Just pre plan it, its just A part of the header install
Agreed
Old Mar 23, 2013 | 10:06 PM
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<<< didnt relocate any o2 sensors
Old Mar 24, 2013 | 04:07 AM
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You can have RacingLine or Cattman Y-Pipe & Cattman Headers only if you want . They don t come as a combo like some Ebay venders .
Old Mar 24, 2013 | 06:37 AM
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If u buy any headers it comes with Y... So if u call cattman and say u want a set of headers it comes with Y.... Unless u want ti just buy a Y pipe seperate
Old Mar 24, 2013 | 06:55 AM
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As for Cattman Performance , you can either have the Headers if you want or the Y-Pipe only , give Brian a call or PM or email & you ll see buddy .

They don t come together unless you ask for them .

As for RacingLine , they make the Y-Pipe & don t have headers , but they have a performance Precats , which don t come in as a package .

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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:16 AM
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U do know calling and asking for just headers is a special request or order right?...

If u go on the listed batch of headers... Which is $800+ IIRC they come with a Y

It would be like calling and asking for just axleback.... Cattman headers only doesnt even bolt up to the factory Y pipe nor his own Y-pipe IIRC so yea, im pretty sure just buying headers by itself is a special request with the intention of making a custom Y-pipe, which ppl do to use a 3"y

Edit: it would bolt to the Y provided but not if u had bought a previous Y pipe from him or anywhere else... Unless thats recently changed

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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:23 AM
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Look at this thread Grand hustle17 , post #1 please , http://forums.maxima.org/6th-generat...s-y-pipes.html

They come separate . it s either the Headers or the Y-Pipe or you order both of them , which you must ask if you want both of them buddy .

Look , ask Brian himself , their s something that you catch in their mate .

Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
It would be like calling and asking for just axleback.... Cattman headers only doesnt even bolt up to the factory Y pipe nor his own Y-pipe IIRC so yea, im pretty sure just buying headers by itself is a special request with the intention of making a custom Y-pipe, which ppl do to use a 3"y

Edit: it would bolt to the Y provided but not if u had bought a previous Y pipe from him or anywhere else... Unless thats recently changed

Did you try it ! I can order the Y-Pipe only as other people did , or its headers only , they ll fit their .

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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:26 AM
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Well for 1 those are 6th gens, different than 5th gens... U can call to buy headers (which comes with the Y-pipe) or u can buy just the Y-pipe.... Either way i thought u were asking about headers because u had a 00-03 maxima?...

I owned a set of cattman y-pipe before.... Never installed it, sold it...

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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:28 AM
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Question Grand hustle , what s the year of your ride .

Forget the other post , for one thing Cattman s quality stuff , not cheap *** China products , it s why they re expensive like that buddy .

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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:29 AM
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I dont know how it works for 6th gens, i was responding based on the section forum u posted in...
Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
I owned a set of cattman y-pipe before.... Never installed it, sold it...
Why you sold it .

Anyways if you go 3 inch instead of factory installed exhaust , nothing will fit , easy as that from headers back . Simple as that .

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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sprocketser
Question Grand hustle , what s the year of your ride .
01 AE... i also had a 02.... Both have/had OBX headers
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Forget the other post , for one thing Cattman s quality stuff , not cheap *** China products , it s why they re expensive like that buddy .
Sure............ So buy them
Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:32 AM
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Concerning the year of your ride , it s true , not the same here .
Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sprocketser
Why you sold it .
Didnt like it, didnt care for it nor would it really give any power on a 5.5... Which is why i neither liked it nor cared
Originally Posted by sprocketser
Anyways if you go 3 inch instead of factory installed exhaust , nothing will fit , easy as that from headers back . Simple as that .
Where did u get that info?... Cause thats not at all true
Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:35 AM
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Why you sold the OBX if you don t mind .
Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by sprocketser
Concerning the year of your ride , it s true , not the same here .
What year car do u own or is concerned about headers and or Y-pipe?

Originally Posted by sprocketser
Why you sold the OBX if you don t mind .
I didnt sell the obx

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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:36 AM
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Look , if you go 3 inch , why not go 3 inch all the way , if not you wont take advantage oof the increased diameter of the 3 inch .

Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
What year car do u own or is concerned about headers and or Y-pipe?
Ah , an SER Altima . Which is real close to a 6th gen Max

Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
I didnt sell the obx
Ok , I tought you sold these .

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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by sprocketser
Ah , an SER Altima . Which is real close to a 6th gen Max
O.k.... Then u do realize that u posted in the wrong section right?... That would be like going to a 4th gen section asking them what size hid bulbs to go with but wanting a bulb for the SER
Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:43 AM
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Uh ! hey sorry man , tought it was the 6th gen mate , you got me confused in there ! lol That explains why I was having a hard time following you .
Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:45 AM
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If uve got an SER it definately doesnt have to be as complicated as ur making it... U either want a Y-pipe or headers brands makes no power difference if they are similarly made.... Cant u guys go on ebay and just order a set of megan headers?.. if u want cattman....... Just simply, buy cattman... Headers or Y... Either or... If u need more info, i can tell u that there is more than enough, actually too much header threads on this forum... Ur answer is in search
Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:52 AM
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I know that their are threads about headers whatever , but when you wrote that I was in the wrong section I understood why I was a hard time following you , so I didn t make it look as complicated as you wrote .

As for ebay headers , I don t want these , it s either quality stuff or no stuff at all . Did you read my post just before yours , I cleared out my stuff in there , maybe not the way I look at it right now .
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Lol... More power to u lol... I cant argue that u want cattman... Great stufff.... If i owned a SER id buy one from ebay so fast paypal wouldnt even know what to do ... I wished the 00-03 had headers option n price like u guys lol
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Well , must be true that your ride has less choices in there , no charge for the laugh ! lol
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Originally Posted by sprocketser
Look at this thread Grand hustle17 , post #1 please , http://forums.maxima.org/6th-generat...s-y-pipes.html

They come separate . it s either the Headers or the Y-Pipe or you order both of them , which you must ask if you want both of them buddy .
You're Confused.

Headers are 3 piece.

Y pipe is JUST A Y PIPE.

These are two completely different purchases, and completely different setups. You do ONE OR THE OTHER.

Y PIPE ONLY REPLACES THE Y PIPE.

HEADERS ARE 3 PIECE. 2 HEADERS that bolt to the engine, and a Y pipe to tie them together. THE Y PIPE USED IN THE 3 PIECE HEADER SET is NOT THE SAME AS WHEN YOU JUST BUY THE "Y PIPE" from him.


THE Y PIPE ONLY PURCHASE IS MEANT TO BOLT UP TO THE STOCK EXHAUST MANIFOLDS.


Originally Posted by sprocketser
Look , if you go 3 inch , why not go 3 inch all the way , if not you wont take advantage oof the increased diameter of the 3 inch .
Because you don't want 3" at the manifolds/ypipe unless you are boosted, etc. That's too big.
Headers and collectors need to be smaller to maintain velocity. Bigger isn't better that close to the engine. After the headers/y pipe go as big as you can for power. But not at the headers/Y

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Originally Posted by tunermaxima3000
you're confused.

Headers are 3 piece.

Y pipe is just a y pipe.

These are two completely different purchases, and completely different setups. You do one or the other.

Y pipe only replaces the y pipe.

Headers are 3 piece. 2 headers that bolt to the engine, and a y pipe to tie them together. The y pipe used in the 3 piece header set is not the same as when you just buy the "y pipe" from him.


The y pipe only purchase is meant to bolt up to the stock exhaust manifolds.




because you don't want 3" at the manifolds/ypipe unless you are boosted, etc. That's too big.
Headers and collectors need to be smaller to maintain velocity. Bigger isn't better that close to the engine. After the headers/y pipe go as big as you can for power. But not at the headers/y
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Headers replace the exhaust manifolds , FI or NA , bigger diameter from the header the primary tubes , ( say 1. 75 inch vs 1.5 ) you ll have more power on the dyno , whatever the type of engines . As for the 3 inch I was stating this from the Y-Pipe back , not the headers by themselves,m meaning the primary tubes again , which might been what you thought I was thinking .

@ TunerMaxima there , true that a Y-Pipe & the Headers are separate on this application . You ll have more power out of a 3 incher than a 2.5 inch exhaust . the velocity is at the header tubes , not at the y-pipe or the rest of the exhaust

Header(s) are 3 piece , I guess is what you mean , basically the flange , the tubes & the collector (which increases in diameter), which is part of the header . You can increase diameter AT the Y-Pipe back .
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Headers are the most important aspect yes. 3"y pipe is very hard to fit without compromising flow, bends, etc to the point that makes it useless to make it 3". If that makes sense.

After market headers aren't better because they're bigger. That has little or nothing to do with it.
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I'm kinda spaced out on the exact point of where the thread is going right now....lol.....but I do know from the searching endlessly that the YPipe only is only worthwhile on the DE-k and prior. The 4th gen I think benefits the most.... if this is about a 5.5 then full headers completely.
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Hey thanks for all the replys everyone! sorry for getting back here so late.. March Madness! GO MARQUETTE

Seems I have rocked the proverbial exhaust boat.

So Im getting that if I buy headers from any vender other thank cattman- it will come w the y as well, correct?

I dont have the money for the cattmans sadly. I am leaning toward the obx because of the equal length and decent price. I was also thinking of getting an ebay exhaust for the SS piping and using the stock axel-back.

Any suggestions for me?? Thanks again for all the responses.
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OBX works.

And not rocking anything, we're just trying to make sure you understand, and anyone reading isn't getting confussled about it. No biggie dude.

Correct on if you get headers they will come as a 3 piece.
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