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Old 06-29-2013 | 07:40 PM
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'05 72k swap in my '02 186k 5.5 6MT (pics) - ENGINE IS IN!!! More to come...

Nothing much. Blew engine Thursday afternoon, bought a used '05 with 72k miles on it less than an hour away this afternoon and here's the progress so far...

...all done by me, myself and I. Will prob get an assistant when time comes to pull engine, but until then I'm going solo.

Old engine:
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New (used) engine:
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Drained all the fluids, removed intake, and most all of the electrical:
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Fuel rail removed, the rest of electrical removed, and tranny removed:
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Next, engine removal...

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Old 06-29-2013 | 08:50 PM
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How hard is it to remove the tranny? With the appropriate tools that is.
Old 07-01-2013 | 07:47 AM
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Old 07-01-2013 | 02:43 PM
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How'd you manage to blow the engine?
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engine swaps are fairly straight forward on the 5.5 gens. Make sure you clean the mating surfaces very well between engine block and transmission bell housing. Also don't forget to clean the grounds real good.

Are you planning to do the timing chain guides on the 05 motor? I would highly recommend doing at the very least the secondary chain guides since they will most likely wear completely buy about 90k-100k.

good job taking this your self. saved yourself 600-800$.
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How much did you pay for the new engine? I need to buy me one.
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Keep all of the old electronics, injectors, coils, sensors, you might need them at some point, keep the stuff u need sell the rest make some money back,
Old 07-03-2013 | 07:45 AM
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How hard is it to remove the tranny? With the appropriate tools that is.
Removing the tranny isn't hard, but putting it back on can be hard if you have a 6 speed and your new clutch isn't aligned properly. Two set's of hands helps.
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Sorry guys, been in limbo last few days with work and kids and other things. Found a one owner '99 Q45 that I picked up Monday morning for my daily driver.

All I've done since this post was swap over the fuel rail and coolant feeds. Hope to get to the rest of it this weekend. Still need to swap over the valve covers, flywheel/clutch, lightened pulley, intake, and upper/lower oil pan. Then I can begin the process of getting everything back in the car.

Originally Posted by NmexMAX
How'd you manage to blow the engine?
Bought it back in '06 with 59k miles. I have a motto I've lived by ever since my first car back in the mid-80's "Drive it like you stole it".

Anyhow, I got one of the VQ oil burners and around 80-90k, I was putting 1qt of oil in every 1k-1.5k miles. Over time it got to where I was putting 1qt in every 500 miles (around 130k). The car hit a little over 186k miles and finally decided it didn't like my driving habits anymore or it didn't like Nissan's faulty rings any more. Done...

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Are you planning to do the timing chain guides on the 05 motor?
I wanted to check the VIN to see if it had already been done, but am having a hard time finding the website that has recall/tsb info. Or atleast I thought there was one. If not, it's in the plans before engine goes back in.

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good job taking this your self. saved yourself 600-800$.
Was on my bucket list to swap an engine. Just didn't plan on doing it in my daily driver. I plan on selling as soon as I get it up and running. Too many other things I don't want to deal with anymore. Rear fender rust (again), suspension and bushings (again), radiator support rust, and the list goes on...

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Old 07-03-2013 | 08:22 PM
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How much did you pay for the new engine? I need to buy me one.
I bought this one locally for $700 w/72k miles. Was the best deal I could find. It's got some parts I had to swap from mine due to damage, but overall appears to be a decent shape. Came with a 90 day warranty. Hopefully I won't have to deal with that...
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Just a couple pics to keep the thread alive ;-)

Right after I pulled it out of the Pathfinder I borrowed to pick it up. (New Harbor Freight 1 ton lift):
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Old 07-04-2013 | 08:11 AM
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hawt damn. look at you go...keep up the good work!
Old 07-04-2013 | 11:52 AM
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I just did a engine/tranny swap in my other car...96' Taurus SHO. It's a lot of work, but very rewarding in the end.
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Good work man. I did a 3.5 swap from am 05 with about 90k miles on it and it ran me 800 out the door. They gave me a 6 month warranty thought. I picked 05 because I've heard they were not as likely to burn oil. Good luck. Should be pretty straight forward swapping into a 5.5 gen.
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Pulling old engine...
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ENGINE IS OUT!!!!!!!!! Woot!
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Sitting, waiting to be raped. Need to swap alternator, A/C, P/S, Oil pans, etc.
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Front pre-cat was already gutted a few months ago, so gutted back cat. What a PITA!
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Old 07-05-2013 | 12:46 PM
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I might have a buddy or neighbor come over and actually take a pic of me working on this. LOL... All I got so far is my thumb and feet in a pic.
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You are making some good progress. And that is a good deal on the engine. I need to find one for my stupid 02 6 speed. The engine in it died. Stupid previous owner
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Well the coolant lines that go to the oil filter housing were completely fubar'd on the '05 used engine, then as I was inspecting the ones on my '02 engine one of them started to leak. Rusted through. The other one isnt any better. So, that will be on my parts order list along with all the gaskets and what not I need.
Old 07-05-2013 | 04:16 PM
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Now that the engine is out do the jdm monkey
Old 07-06-2013 | 06:26 PM
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how the hell did you fit an engine in a pathfinder....I swear the rear seats dont fold down all the way.
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Originally Posted by Maxterror
how the hell did you fit an engine in a pathfinder....I swear the rear seats dont fold down all the way.
'99 Pathfinder - The salvage yard even fork lifted it in there

In my initial post, the picture of it is sitting in the rear, I took that picture from the driver side passenger door opening. There's plenty of room.

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Old 07-09-2013 | 06:29 AM
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I have an 05 engine in My 02 max for about 2yrs now not one single issue bought it with 50k and Only paid $300 for it because a friend of mines owed me
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Everything is pulled off the '02 including the upper/lower oil pans. I ordered new gaskets, seals, O-rings and oil filter coolant lines. All the parts should be here this week or early next week. Taking some vacation time with my kids, so not sure when I'll be finishing the install, but should be close to buttoning everything back up first week of August.
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How hard was it to pull the engine from the top, some people said it was a pain so I ended up dropped my engine a few months ago.

I also went through the hasle of gutting that cat and it was a pain in the ***.. I actually punctured a hole right through it when I was gutting it, ended up having to find a good welder.. That metal is one of the hardest to weld, I got lucky

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Pulling old engine...



Front pre-cat was already gutted a few months ago, so gutted back cat. What a PITA!
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Originally Posted by MaxinO2
How hard was it to pull the engine from the top, some people said it was a pain so I ended up dropped my engine a few months ago.

I also went through the hasle of gutting that cat and it was a pain in the ***.. I actually punctured a hole right through it when I was gutting it, ended up having to find a good welder.. That metal is one of the hardest to weld, I got lucky
Honestly, I originally wanted to drop it, but decided to pull it instead because I didn't want to raise car off ground much more than I already did.

I did it by myself using the engine lift and had absolutely no issues whatsoever. So my response would be that it was not hard at all.
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Originally Posted by MaxinO2
How hard was it to pull the engine from the top, some people said it was a pain so I ended up dropped my engine a few months ago.

I also went through the hasle of gutting that cat and it was a pain in the ***.. I actually punctured a hole right through it when I was gutting it, ended up having to find a good welder.. That metal is one of the hardest to weld, I got lucky
It is not hard to pull the engine from the top. I pulled mine up with the transmission together. I just had to be a little careful not to hit the A/C condenser.
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Very nice.
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Originally Posted by tosheto
It is not hard to pull the engine from the top. I pulled mine up with the transmission together. I just had to be a little careful not to hit the A/C condenser.
Due to room in garage constraints, I actually benefited. I pulled the engine from the passenger side which now that I look at it, was very beneficial. I plan on bolting tranny/engine together and installing both at same time the same way. I feel that coming in from passenger side should make the placement of the tranny much better than going from the front and no major concerns about the A/C parts still in there ;-)
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Originally Posted by nismopc
Due to room in garage constraints, I actually benefited. I pulled the engine from the passenger side which now that I look at it, was very beneficial. I plan on bolting tranny/engine together and installing both at same time the same way. I feel that coming in from passenger side should make the placement of the tranny much better than going from the front and no major concerns about the A/C parts still in there ;-)
ok. You can bolt the engine and transmission together and put it in. I might have to do that on my car. But if the lift is free at the time of install I might just set the engine/transmission combo and drop the car on top.
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Got final shipment of all the gaskets, O-rings, oil cooling lines, etc. yesterday. Waiting on primary O2 sensors and will begin re-assemble a little bit here and there. Spending my "staycation" with my kids, so staying away from the car for the time...

...I did however get the '02 fuel rail, rear injector connectors and intake mounted to the '05. So, I'm getting there.
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Nice man, looks like a well worth investment..

Did you replace the clutch or flywheel and grease the shaft?
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Originally Posted by MaxinO2
Nice man, looks like a well worth investment..

Did you replace the clutch or flywheel and grease the shaft?
Clutch only has 36k on it, so no and I have no plans to either.

I always grease my shaft before I...

...uh no, not yet.
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HAHAHA, funny guy! ^^^^^


But hey, nice work! I love it when people take down projects like this. I've done my own swap in an 88' 5.0 and helped on a few others. Like you said, very rewarding!! GOOD JOB!
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I just did a engine/tranny swap in my other car...96' Taurus SHO. It's a lot of work, but very rewarding in the end.
Are those cams welded?
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Update: Got the '02 upper oil pan swapped and then proceeded to clean off the gasket on what I thought was the '05 lower oil pan. Got it all nice and purdy then realized I cleaned the '02 lower pan.



The '02 pan is rusted, so now I have to clean up the '05 pan as I had thought I was doing. I also decided to keep the '05 oil pan baffle plate and removed the '02 baffle plate.

[For reference: '02 baffle plate is bolted inside the upper oil pan. '05 baffle plate is bolted to lower portion of block]

'05 block and pan...


'05 block w/'02 oil pan...
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And, I found two of these inside the '02 oil pan. Any ideas where they might have been? I assume this had something to do with when the engine went bye bye...
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Hmm not many philips screws inside the engine. It looks like one of the screws that belongs to the timing cover but inside the timing cover, mayb u dropped it
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So what did you do on your lunch break today? I installed my engine. Was slightly difficult doing it myself, but I did it and it's now in. Replaced the passenger LCA first since there was plenty of room to get under there, then went at it!

On hoist ready to go:
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Almost there:
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And it's in:
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Nice work, and nice to see that you're still around with the Max. Should have put some headers on there while the motor was out.


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