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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 12:53 PM
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Holy cow man. Goto small claims court. Show them the pictures. They will advise you on what to do to prove your claim.
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 01:46 PM
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paypal? wtf? did you hire this guy off craigslist or what?
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 02:32 PM
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It is common for a mechanic to swap an engine and use your old intake manifold and throttle body and stuff, just to avoid potential problems.
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 02:50 PM
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I am lost as to whether he thinks parts were swapped or not. First he said the replacement engine was clean and shiny and his was dirty etc and still dirty. So he thinks the motor was not swapped.

Now he is saying that the parts on the motor are dirty etc and his were clean.....

When we do a used motor ( we don't like to do) we swap known working parts over. Intake, distributors, throttles, etc. We suggest resealing the engine; valve cover, rear main, crank, etc.
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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My magic 8 Ball tells me: All this drama about an alleged engine swap is precisely that - drama.

Yeah, it says all that. I got the jumbo plane crash edition 8 Ball. That is all.

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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 06:27 PM
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I don't even know where to begin....

This thread is entertaining but yet useless. Another thread with no cause. Lets think logicly about this shall we. The OP must be playing some type of cruel game in which we are all victims. The only explanation for this madness
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 06:40 PM
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Even my wife calls BS on this. She thinks plane crash was in jail. Or the psych hospital. "Those are the only two things that would keep you away from technology and would be ashamed of."

So, plane crashey, what did you do or what imaginary friend where you talking to?
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 06:41 PM
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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 07:32 PM
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You guys are children to think im making all this up.

Small claims is the way it looks we will be going if he doesn't give me a call tomorrow working everything out. He doesn't seem like he wants to fix it. And is being very shady.

He showed me an engine with 85K. It was in perfect condition.

The engine in my car is not the one I was shown. They look completely different and my girlfriend is my witness, she saw both engines.

He kept the shiny engine for himself, and gave me a different UIM and fuel rail to create the illusion it was a different engine (when it is the same engine)

Either way, no matter what he says, the engine currently in my car is defective and I can replicate and prove it at any time.

I paid all this money to fix the worn VTC's.. and they are STILL broken.


I get the cold start clatter in the timing chain area
I get timing chain pops/noise as the oil pressure bleeds off (when car is off)
I get the flickering oil light upon first engine start (oil pressure bleeds out of VTC)

I have owned 2 maximas with the same engine. My old maxima did not do ANY of the items I listed.

This is unacceptable and im not having it.
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 08:50 PM
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First you said the new motor was new and shiny. no rust, no discoloration. Now you say you have dirty parts on your car that were not dirty before. So are you saying he bought a 3rd engine and put the dirty parts on your car since the supposed new engine was new and shiny and you don't have shiny parts and also have parts that were dirtier than yours?

Man I hope you go to court and he is found not guilty. Hopefully you get to pay his court and attorney costs.
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Aviation005

He kept the shiny engine for himself, and gave me a different UIM and fuel rail to create the illusion it was a different engine (when it is the same engine)

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I bet he is sitting down laughing like an evil villain right now polishing his shiny new engine he ripped off of you.
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 09:03 PM
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Bump

Old Sep 16, 2013 | 09:07 PM
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This is one hell of a trollercoaster thread ride!

Old Sep 16, 2013 | 09:38 PM
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The entertainment value of this thread has worn off.

Old Sep 17, 2013 | 05:20 AM
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Either way, whining her does nothing for your situation. If you wanted advice, it was given. Lock it up, cry to your parents (not us), and go on about your life.

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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 12:02 PM
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wow I have seen some people who lack common sense and have done stupid things but you top all of them... why would you even consider putting an engine in a car that is over 10+ years old and there are a ton of those on the internet... for the price you paid you could have picked up the 3.0 or the vq30dek 5th gen maxima and move on with your life... I am sorry but putting close to $4000 in a car that's not worth that is just pure stupidity and you deserve it... so stop crying cut your losses and move on with your life... you got scammed... welcome to CT as you would say... I am pretty sure hundreds of people got scammed today in CT...
Want a real advice? Talk to a financial adviser next time you have an extra $4000 to spare... there sure a lot more reasonable ways to invest the money that put them in an old Nissan just so you can come back to the forum and brag about what kind of stupid move you made...
Move on with your life, grow up and learn who to trust next time you ready to trow money away...
Old Sep 17, 2013 | 01:19 PM
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@OP

you got scammed time to move on
Old Sep 17, 2013 | 01:21 PM
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Dam OP, what were you thinking? You're poor and sloppily spending 3k on a swap without even covering your own **** or doing a bit of research on this guy? Regardless, cover your **** when it comes to your own money. Thta's inexcusable at any age.

I get you are young, but come on. This is ridiculous. Don't you have parents. uncles, neighbors, friends or a decent pet dog that could guide you through something like this? As bad as I feel for you, you have to make wiser choices than this.

And CRUSHER, you're killing me with the plane crashes. I loathe flying and in order to leave Hawaii (which I do 2-3 times a year) I must fly. I now have the 47 vid engrained into my brain. SO yea, thanks for that.


Originally Posted by JWatZ
I hope you are joking. Could of bought a new Max for that price and parted out the other to finance mods.
Yea, exactly.

Originally Posted by Chris Gregg
I think it sounds par for the course for plane crash. The easy thing to do would be for him to show you the old engine. Geez, how hard is that. Most shops keep the old engine around for a bit.

And for all that is sane, yes - the engines are going to look nearly indistinguishable. These engines also tend to rust in the same areas, so to pop the hood and say it looks the same should be right, NOT wrong!
Best advice. As far as the swap, that's iffy. I've done a few and they usually look a bit different in one way or another.

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You bought a junk yard engine and now you are crying about leaks and the appearance of the engine? Did you pay for new seals and all the parts you wanted to keep being swapped? Or did you just assume?
For 3k+, I feel it's safe to say he "payed" for everything.
Old Sep 17, 2013 | 02:19 PM
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Dam OP, what were you thinking?
You need to look at this thread in the context of his other threads. Go to his profile, click the statistics tab, and then the "Find all threads started by Planecrash". At which point, you'll have your answers.
Old Sep 17, 2013 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
You need to look at this thread in the context of his other threads. Go to his profile, click the statistics tab, and then the "Find all threads started by Planecrash". At which point, you'll have your answers.
Is that is?

Maybe you could just tell me. Yea, I like that one better.
Old Sep 17, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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it's actually more fun to read through his craptasticness first-hand...trust me




Everytime I see this thread brought back to the top, I die a little inside.
Old Sep 17, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Amerikaner83
it's actually more fun to read through his craptasticness first-hand...trust me




Everytime I see this thread brought back to the top, I die a little inside.
I took your advice. I have two words - WOW.
Old Sep 17, 2013 | 03:38 PM
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Here is the mitchel labor guide:
19.0 hours
Consists of cylinder block fitted with pistons, rings, connecting rods, crankshaft and all bearings, cylinder head, camshaft, timing chain or belt and/or sprockets. Includes: Clean and transfer fuel and electrical assemblies, engine mounts, manifolds, valve covers, oil pan, oil pump, timing cover, water pump, clutch assembly and flywheel. Adjust idle speed, timing and valves where applicable.

Avg labor cost of $100.00 per hour and that is $2000 right there.

I see motors in the $1200.00 range. So they probably charged around 14 hours of labor or so and marked up the engine a fair amount to get to $3000
Old Sep 17, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasTex
I took your advice. I have two words - WOW.

worth the read, eh?
Old Sep 17, 2013 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Amerikaner83
worth the read, eh?
Yea, you can say that. It took all of about three posts and I had a firm idea of what we have here.
Old Sep 17, 2013 | 04:14 PM
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I took your advice. I have two words - WOW.
Oh sure, take Amerikaner's advice, but ask me for cliff notes.
Old Sep 17, 2013 | 04:16 PM
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Oh sure, take Amerikaner's advice, but ask me for cliff notes.
No, no, no. I am still interested in your cliff notes!
Old Sep 17, 2013 | 06:42 PM
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Wait, Planecrash.... I just realized something. Is this "THE" friend mechanic you have numerous times tried to cram down our throats as knowing everything about these cars and given you all your prior guidance!? Yup, you sure showed us.
Old Sep 17, 2013 | 11:29 PM
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Wait, Planecrash.... I just realized something. Is this "THE" friend mechanic you have numerous times tried to cram down our throats as knowing everything about these cars and given you all your prior guidance!? Yup, you sure showed us.
Old Sep 17, 2013 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Fakie J Farkerton


My only question is what are these clips and how do you put them on here? HAHAHA!!!
Old Sep 18, 2013 | 12:47 AM
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My only question is what are these clips and how do you put them on here? HAHAHA!!!

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Old Sep 18, 2013 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Gregg
Wait, Planecrash.... I just realized something. Is this "THE" friend mechanic you have numerous times tried to cram down our throats as knowing everything about these cars and given you all your prior guidance!? Yup, you sure showed us.


Oh mercy.



The funniest part is that you can literally buy a half decent 5th gen for about that much money now.
Old Sep 18, 2013 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Aviation005
I have after 6 months, gotten my maxima back! I just wanted to say hi to this warm loving community again.

The timing chain tensioner and water pump were both shot on the old engine, and it threw the timing off causing a constant tick at all RPMs

I paid $3260 total for an engine swap with an engine with 85K miles.

I'm not sure the guy even changed the engine.. it looks identical, rust and discoloration in exact same places on the timing cover.. but it is clear they did reseal the cover (RTV is different color). Im gonna peek for the vin tomorrow.

Anyways, im just thrilled to have my baby back.

I was driving a saturn ls1 with 454,000K miles for the past few months. No ebrake, bucks under acceleration, ect.

peace
What's the name of the shop? We can find pictures and an adress online.
Old Sep 18, 2013 | 12:01 PM
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Let's keep it clean. starun with 450,000k, I think your conversion is off, scientific notation.
Old Sep 18, 2013 | 12:21 PM
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it just amazes me the stupidity of some people in this world. i would've marked the engine in a few spots, taken pictures of the old and new vq so there would be no question in my mind that the job was done. christ, i have a 251,000 mile 95 with engine chatter and a leaking timing cover and would'nt pay more than 2,000 to swap, no way. he took advantage of you cause you obviously did'nt go in prepared and did'nt know what you were doing.
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Originally Posted by max ride 41
it just amazes me the stupidity of some people in this world. i would've marked the engine in a few spots, taken pictures of the old and new vq so there would be no question in my mind that the job was done. christ, i have a 251,000 mile 95 with engine chatter and a leaking timing cover and would'nt pay more than 2,000 to swap, no way. he took advantage of you cause you obviously did'nt go in prepared and did'nt know what you were doing.
Please see my signature - post#45.

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Old Sep 18, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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he took advantage of you cause you obviously did'nt go in prepared and did'nt know what you were doing.
Maybe he should have brought a dude with him? I know that's sexist, but we're talking about stereotypical auto mechanics.
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Great response kiddo.
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Great response kiddo.



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