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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 09:51 PM
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Hi, problems with my Ex-Maxima....

Hi, I sold my max recently. Buyer test it and check everything. Im from Puerto Rico but my title say max come from Texas. Buyer is trying to take some money from me because the car has rare labels. The car has the vin numer on dash, behind the motor and driver pillar. But on the 4 doors, trunk and hood had a different label(They are red with a warning word and some letter and number) with another number but all six match. Here in PR all label should match with vin but in that max happend that. Could someone explain me why??? please buyer call me everyday to ask me money...... Rgggg Here in PR all label sould had the vin number... Thanks!!!!!
Old Sep 27, 2013 | 10:30 PM
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I don't know about the labels you speak of. But in the states, if I honestly was not aware of something, let the buyer inspect the car, then sold the car "as is"......I would not give him a dime! Here, he would have to prove I knowingly deceived him on the sale.

However, you are not in the states. I don't know the labels or your laws. Your law may not allow you to sell a car with mismatched labels. If so, I guess you would have to buy the car back and then deal with who you purchased the car from.

Can you explain the labels and your laws!? My thoughts, just because a door has been replaced, doesn't automatically translate into fraud or decreased value of the car.
Old Sep 27, 2013 | 11:11 PM
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If he inspected the car and it was sold as is, car is his. If not just get the car back, return the money and resell it to someone else.
Old Sep 28, 2013 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Gregg
I don't know about the labels you speak of. But in the states, if I honestly was not aware of something, let the buyer inspect the car, then sold the car "as is"......I would not give him a dime! Here, he would have to prove I knowingly deceived him on the sale.

However, you are not in the states. I don't know the labels or your laws. Your law may not allow you to sell a car with mismatched labels. If so, I guess you would have to buy the car back and then deal with who you purchased the car from.

Can you explain the labels and your laws!? My thoughts, just because a door has been replaced, doesn't automatically translate into fraud or decreased value of the car.

Hi there i put the vin number. The red labels is present with the same number on the hood, 4 doors and trunk. That the label the buyer told me and he is asking money to fix it. The car is in Puerto Rico now but was on texas, US for 4 years before getting here. Thanks
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 07:13 AM
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Tell him to go screw himself. He inspected the car before buying it, he didn't notice it at that point so the mistake is his. He can't ask for money back after the facts.
Old Sep 28, 2013 | 07:38 AM
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Everything's already been said. Private sale=no warranty/vehicle sold as-is and it's a done deal. After that it's up to YOU if you want to help the customer, which you might if there is a legitimate problem that you knew about and you want to be a nice guy, but it's still up to you.

I sold a 98 Mitsubishi Montero Sport a little while ago, with 150k miles for $3900 and the lady came back asking for money to do repairs. I offered to help her actually do the repairs at a cheaper rate than a mechanic would charge, but she would have to pay for it (car sold as-is).

You can maybe find a common ground with your buyer, and maybe choose to help him out if there's a way. But you don't have to do anything, you're not responsible anymore the car is his.
Old Sep 28, 2013 | 08:50 AM
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I think you have a responsibility morally if you knew. If you didn't, and this is a legitimate issue, then I agree with the idea of helping the buyer to a reasonable point. Again, if we are just talking door labels, I struggle with what the problem is UNLESS this is a legal issue for him in registering the car. Guess its your call. If you knew about it and didn't tell him, I think you do have a responsibility.

I sold a Maxima many years ago that ran great. I had installed a new manual tranny and had driven the car with the tranny for months before the sale. Guy calls back a few weeks later and says the transmission won't shift right and doesn't go into reverse. I told him I'd be willing to help him out with parts and labor if i could, then asked him what changed with the tranny. Basically he said he missed a turn, slammed it into reverse and its not acted right since. I politely told him I'm unwilling to help him if he damaged the car as that was no fault of mine since he abused the transmission. He was actually mad at me. I helped him by referring him to a good transmission shop.
Old Sep 28, 2013 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Gregg
I think you have a responsibility morally if you knew. If you didn't, and this is a legitimate issue, then I agree with the idea of helping the buyer to a reasonable point. Again, if we are just talking door labels, I struggle with what the problem is UNLESS this is a legal issue for him in registering the car. Guess its your call. If you knew about it and didn't tell him, I think you do have a responsibility.

I sold a Maxima many years ago that ran great. I had installed a new manual tranny and had driven the car with the tranny for months before the sale. Guy calls back a few weeks later and says the transmission won't shift right and doesn't go into reverse. I told him I'd be willing to help him out with parts and labor if i could, then asked him what changed with the tranny. Basically he said he missed a turn, slammed it into reverse and its not acted right since. I politely told him I'm unwilling to help him if he damaged the car as that was no fault of mine since he abused the transmission. He was actually mad at me. I helped him by referring him to a good transmission shop.
That is the only way you are responsible for the issue at hand. If there are mismatching vins on the door and hood but it does not effect the status of the title and he doesnt like it(thats assuming stolen parts are not on the car), tough.

I found my car which i thought was completely accident free had a bumper&fender with junkyard tagging on the back of it. Thats just the way it is nothing, car has a completely clean title, it doesnt bother me its just the way it is.
Old Sep 28, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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Those labels on the doors are not Nissan labels. NICB stands for the National Insurance Crime Bureau, an organization of insurance companies to combat and prevent fraud. That tag is a registration number to track stolen parts if the car were to be stolen.

Explain to the guy what these are and then tell him to leave you alone or you will report him to the police. He is committing a fraud on you, trying to scam you into giving him money.

www.nicb.org

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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 10:29 AM
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Good find on nicb. the car the op sold seems to be tagged by the org. The title should be marked and thus must be disclosed in a transaction in the States.
Old Sep 29, 2013 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DennisMik
Those labels on the doors are not Nissan labels. NICB stands for the National Insurance Crime Bureau, an organization of insurance companies to combat and prevent fraud. That tag is a registration number to track stolen parts if the car were to be stolen.

Explain to the guy what these are and then tell him to leave you alone or you will report him to the police. He is committing a fraud on you, trying to scam you into giving him money.

www.nicb.org
Thankssss.... You know I told him, i will try to help, but he don't treat me very well. That was my car for 3 years and had original paint and everything, I was not aware of those label. For me was something normal from nissan. The told me that take the car to a stole car division and they give an appointment fro tomorrow and tell him bring to car because the will confiscate the car. I think he his trying to take some money from me. Also told me he will go to court and all the time he is asking for a refund but told me he cannot give me the car. You help me a lot with that info. Now I see it a lie from the beginning.

Thanks for all, I bought a Montero 2002 with 77,000 miles and I love it. Some day will bought another Max but with the 6 speed.....
Old Sep 29, 2013 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Gregg
I think you have a responsibility morally if you knew. If you didn't, and this is a legitimate issue, then I agree with the idea of helping the buyer to a reasonable point. Again, if we are just talking door labels, I struggle with what the problem is UNLESS this is a legal issue for him in registering the car. Guess its your call. If you knew about it and didn't tell him, I think you do have a responsibility.

I sold a Maxima many years ago that ran great. I had installed a new manual tranny and had driven the car with the tranny for months before the sale. Guy calls back a few weeks later and says the transmission won't shift right and doesn't go into reverse. I told him I'd be willing to help him out with parts and labor if i could, then asked him what changed with the tranny. Basically he said he missed a turn, slammed it into reverse and its not acted right since. I politely told him I'm unwilling to help him if he damaged the car as that was no fault of mine since he abused the transmission. He was actually mad at me. I helped him by referring him to a good transmission shop.
Yes, I always told him I will help, but he is treating me very badly, he told me that want a case on court. i sell my car to complete some money for an SUV. Was my car for 3 years and never replace nothing. Thank to another member sound that those label are from NICB and not from nissan, that why the vin number dont match is a different number, but the same number is present on the four door, trunk and hood. So is something normal.. Thankss
Old Sep 29, 2013 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by frykyboy
Thankssss.... You know I told him, i will try to help, but he don't treat me very well. That was my car for 3 years and had original paint and everything, I was not aware of those label. For me was something normal from nissan. The told me that take the car to a stole car division and they give an appointment fro tomorrow and tell him bring to car because the will confiscate the car. I think he his trying to take some money from me. Also told me he will go to court and all the time he is asking for a refund but told me he cannot give me the car. You help me a lot with that info. Now I see it a lie from the beginning.

Thanks for all, I bought a Montero 2002 with 77,000 miles and I love it. Some day will bought another Max but with the 6 speed.....
According to the NICB, the car has never been reported as stolen, and it has never been reported as being in a bad accident and declared a total loss.

https://www.nicb.org/theft_and_fraud_awareness/vincheck
Old Sep 29, 2013 | 02:53 PM
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Great info Dennis! I've learned something! Now, it's just an issue of retention!
Old Sep 29, 2013 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by frykyboy

Yes, I always told him I will help, but he is treating me very badly, he told me that want a case on court. i sell my car to complete some money for an SUV. Was my car for 3 years and never replace nothing. Thank to another member sound that those label are from NICB and not from nissan, that why the vin number dont match is a different number, but the same number is present on the four door, trunk and hood. So is something normal.. Thankss
Yes the NICB number is NOT from nissan and NOT a VIN number, so it is different and this is normal. Your maxima is OK. Tell him to **** off.
Old Sep 29, 2013 | 08:28 PM
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Good info, learned a few things for sure (thanks Dennis)
Old Sep 30, 2013 | 12:04 AM
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Used vehicle = sold as is. This guy is a scammer. Do not give him anything. He wants you to give him back his money, but he will not give you the car back.
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