View Poll Results: What Springs would you choose and why?
H&R 1.4" - 1.3"
12
36.36%
Eibach 1.4" - 1.6"
13
39.39%
Sprint Springs 2.0"
3
9.09%
MaxSpeed ?
5
15.15%
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What Springs would you choose and why?
01-16-2002, 06:55 PM
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What Springs would you choose and why?
What springs would you get and why? I am trying to decide on H&R, Sprint, Eibach, MaxSpeed....dunno!
I also trying to get rid of the wheel well gap. And don't want to scrape the ground either. I plan on putting on a body kit!
I am so lost...reading hte archives I found Progressive as well. That is low......
I need some good pics guys, H&R, Eibach, Sprint, Maxspeed and Progressive to see how low it really is from a distance...thanks.
I also trying to get rid of the wheel well gap. And don't want to scrape the ground either. I plan on putting on a body kit!
I am so lost...reading hte archives I found Progressive as well. That is low......
I need some good pics guys, H&R, Eibach, Sprint, Maxspeed and Progressive to see how low it really is from a distance...thanks.
01-16-2002, 07:12 PM
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Re: What Springs would you choose and why?
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
What springs would you get and why? I am trying to decide on H&R, Sprint, Eibach, MaxSpeed....dunno!
What springs would you get and why? I am trying to decide on H&R, Sprint, Eibach, MaxSpeed....dunno!
Of the ones listed ... eibach's. Sprint's 2" drop in the rear would look wierd.
01-16-2002, 08:00 PM
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After looking at some pics I could find...those Progressive sure do make a nice drop. But since you said the stereo really made it drop...I am worried about my 200lb box going into the back eventually. And worried about a bodykit. I would love to get those....
01-16-2002, 09:20 PM
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I just installed H&R's and KYB AGX's today. The great thing about this combo is that if I want a nice smooth ride I can adjust my shocks{close to a factory ride but handles way better!}, If I want a stiff ride I can again, adjust my shocks. You really can't go wrong with this setup. The KYB's are not for sale yet to the public though{they should be real soon}.
The drop is pretty good too, the car is not slammed but it gives the car a nice clean look like a BMW. I will take a few pics for you tomarrow Russ, but just so you know the springs have no completly settled yet.
I have had sprin/Tociko and eibach/tociko setups too. The eibachs made the front of the car higher then the rear and the sprints made the rear higher then the front. The ride with both of these setups was really harsh and the handaling was not as good as my H&R AGX setup.
The drop is pretty good too, the car is not slammed but it gives the car a nice clean look like a BMW. I will take a few pics for you tomarrow Russ, but just so you know the springs have no completly settled yet.
I have had sprin/Tociko and eibach/tociko setups too. The eibachs made the front of the car higher then the rear and the sprints made the rear higher then the front. The ride with both of these setups was really harsh and the handaling was not as good as my H&R AGX setup.
01-16-2002, 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by emax95
I just installed H&R's and KYB AGX's today. The great thing about this combo is that if I want a nice smooth ride I can adjust my shocks{close to a factory ride but handles way better!}, If I want a stiff ride I can again, adjust my shocks. You really can't go wrong with this setup. The KYB's are not for sale yet to the public though{they should be real soon}.
I just installed H&R's and KYB AGX's today. The great thing about this combo is that if I want a nice smooth ride I can adjust my shocks{close to a factory ride but handles way better!}, If I want a stiff ride I can again, adjust my shocks. You really can't go wrong with this setup. The KYB's are not for sale yet to the public though{they should be real soon}.
Secondly, why is it they only make them for the 4th gen? I thought the 4th gen struts fit fine on the 5th gen? Just going by how the GC Coilovers work on both setups.
Dixit
01-16-2002, 09:41 PM
#9
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
Now how much they estimating the KYB AGX gonna sell for? I heard they can be adjusted really easily, the front from the top inside the hood, and the rears by sticking your hands in the well towards the back of the strut. Just dont know how to get your fingers into the spring gap.
Secondly, why is it they only make them for the 4th gen? I thought the 4th gen struts fit fine on the 5th gen? Just going by how the GC Coilovers work on both setups.
Dixit
Now how much they estimating the KYB AGX gonna sell for? I heard they can be adjusted really easily, the front from the top inside the hood, and the rears by sticking your hands in the well towards the back of the strut. Just dont know how to get your fingers into the spring gap.
Secondly, why is it they only make them for the 4th gen? I thought the 4th gen struts fit fine on the 5th gen? Just going by how the GC Coilovers work on both setups.
Dixit
01-16-2002, 09:52 PM
#10
Originally posted by emax95
The rears are very easaly adjusted, the **** is below the springs on the shock it's self. There are several different things with 5th gen shocks and springs. Go to www.cattman.com , I believe he has the prices allready listed there. They are of coarse a bit more for the 5th gen becuase some custom work is involved. The shocks I got from him looked like they were right out of the factory.
The rears are very easaly adjusted, the **** is below the springs on the shock it's self. There are several different things with 5th gen shocks and springs. Go to www.cattman.com , I believe he has the prices allready listed there. They are of coarse a bit more for the 5th gen becuase some custom work is involved. The shocks I got from him looked like they were right out of the factory.
01-16-2002, 11:01 PM
#11
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
Alright got you there, but still aint understanding why the KYB AGX has to be modified and yet the GC Coilovers dont.
Alright got you there, but still aint understanding why the KYB AGX has to be modified and yet the GC Coilovers dont.
01-16-2002, 11:47 PM
#12
Originally posted by emax95
Cattman's coilovers are differnt for 4th and 5th gen's I thought? I know for one the brake lines connect differntly on the front shocks. 4th gen's use a 8mm bolt while 5th gens uses just a ruber circle that goes into a circle whole. Theres other little differences too.
Cattman's coilovers are differnt for 4th and 5th gen's I thought? I know for one the brake lines connect differntly on the front shocks. 4th gen's use a 8mm bolt while 5th gens uses just a ruber circle that goes into a circle whole. Theres other little differences too.
That is why I thought the struts did change from 4th to 5th gen
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01-17-2002, 02:38 PM
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Hope to see pics soon! Thanks emax!
Originally posted by emax95
I just installed H&R's and KYB AGX's today. The great thing about this combo is that if I want a nice smooth ride I can adjust my shocks{close to a factory ride but handles way better!}, If I want a stiff ride I can again, adjust my shocks. You really can't go wrong with this setup. The KYB's are not for sale yet to the public though{they should be real soon}.
The drop is pretty good too, the car is not slammed but it gives the car a nice clean look like a BMW. I will take a few pics for you tomarrow Russ, but just so you know the springs have no completly settled yet.
I have had sprin/Tociko and eibach/tociko setups too. The eibachs made the front of the car higher then the rear and the sprints made the rear higher then the front. The ride with both of these setups was really harsh and the handaling was not as good as my H&R AGX setup.
I just installed H&R's and KYB AGX's today. The great thing about this combo is that if I want a nice smooth ride I can adjust my shocks{close to a factory ride but handles way better!}, If I want a stiff ride I can again, adjust my shocks. You really can't go wrong with this setup. The KYB's are not for sale yet to the public though{they should be real soon}.
The drop is pretty good too, the car is not slammed but it gives the car a nice clean look like a BMW. I will take a few pics for you tomarrow Russ, but just so you know the springs have no completly settled yet.
I have had sprin/Tociko and eibach/tociko setups too. The eibachs made the front of the car higher then the rear and the sprints made the rear higher then the front. The ride with both of these setups was really harsh and the handaling was not as good as my H&R AGX setup.
01-17-2002, 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
After looking at some pics I could find...those Progressive sure do make a nice drop. But since you said the stereo really made it drop...I am worried about my 200lb box going into the back eventually. And worried about a bodykit. I would love to get those....
After looking at some pics I could find...those Progressive sure do make a nice drop. But since you said the stereo really made it drop...I am worried about my 200lb box going into the back eventually. And worried about a bodykit. I would love to get those....
I took a measurement of the rear wheel gap (from the center of the wheel to the bottom of the wheel well) and noticed that w/o the stereo (these results were taken from before and after measurements of the spring install) and noticed that the rear dropped approx 1/2" after I put the stereo back in. At first when I got my car back and measured (with no stereo in there) I was pi$$ed thinking they didn't drop the rear much at all. After I realized that there was no stereo and what was going on, I remeasure and found them to be pretty accurate with their drop calculations, both front and rear.
I would not worry about a body kit with these springs. Reason being I honestly would like the car to be lower. I like the drop that's on there, but I would like the car to sit about 1" lower than it is right now. Even with a body kit, I don't see any problems scraping with the drop I have now. I would be more concerned if it was lowered to where I want, but ...
And look at Irvine78 ... he's got eibachs and cut off some of the coils to get it lower. When I first saw his car with that lip and how low it was, I was mad. I was like how the hell did eibach's drop that car lower than mine?!?! Well I don't think he's had any problems dragging the ground and the side profile pic of this car still shows plenty of room.
My best friend has a supra that the front lip is only 2" off the ground. Hell he can't pull his car in anywhere to get worked on, b/c they can't get it on a lift ... but he has NEVER hit that lip or scraped it once.
01-17-2002, 03:35 PM
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Re: What Springs would you choose and why?
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
What springs would you get and why? I am trying to decide on H&R, Sprint, Eibach, MaxSpeed....dunno!
I also trying to get rid of the wheel well gap. And don't want to scrape the ground either. I plan on putting on a body kit!
I am so lost...reading hte archives I found Progressive as well. That is low......
I need some good pics guys, H&R, Eibach, Sprint, Maxspeed and Progressive to see how low it really is from a distance...thanks.
What springs would you get and why? I am trying to decide on H&R, Sprint, Eibach, MaxSpeed....dunno!
I also trying to get rid of the wheel well gap. And don't want to scrape the ground either. I plan on putting on a body kit!
I am so lost...reading hte archives I found Progressive as well. That is low......
I need some good pics guys, H&R, Eibach, Sprint, Maxspeed and Progressive to see how low it really is from a distance...thanks.
01-17-2002, 03:41 PM
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Re: Re: What Springs would you choose and why?
Originally posted by Greg's2kGLE
I didn't think Sprint made springs for the 5th gen. I thought it was, H&R, Eibach, MaxSpeed, Progress, and then the GC Coliovers (which are for the 4th gen right, but with a little work fit the 5th gen?)
I didn't think Sprint made springs for the 5th gen. I thought it was, H&R, Eibach, MaxSpeed, Progress, and then the GC Coliovers (which are for the 4th gen right, but with a little work fit the 5th gen?)
I've seen them for sale on several websites. been awhile since i was looking, but I do remember seeing them ...
01-17-2002, 03:42 PM
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Re: Re: Re: What Springs would you choose and why?
Originally posted by ispeed
I've seen them for sale on several websites. been awhile since i was looking, but I do remember seeing them ...
I've seen them for sale on several websites. been awhile since i was looking, but I do remember seeing them ...
01-17-2002, 03:45 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: What Springs would you choose and why?
Originally posted by Greg's2kGLE
Hmm...if you come across any, let me know.
Hmm...if you come across any, let me know.
a long time ago, I posted a link to a site that was selling them ...
I mean a real long time ago ...
I'll see what I can come up with.
01-17-2002, 04:22 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: What Springs would you choose and why?
Originally posted by Greg's2kGLE
Hmm...if you come across any, let me know.
Hmm...if you come across any, let me know.
here is one of the places ... I think it was one of the more expensive places, but anyway ...
http://www.autotoyaz.com/nissan2.html
01-17-2002, 04:25 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What Springs would you choose and why?
Originally posted by ispeed
here is one of the places ... I think it was one of the more expensive places, but anyway ...
http://www.autotoyaz.com/nissan2.html
here is one of the places ... I think it was one of the more expensive places, but anyway ...
http://www.autotoyaz.com/nissan2.html
here's another one
http://www.digitalracer.com/catalog/...l.asp?pid=2947
01-17-2002, 04:28 PM
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Okay guys...I have narrowed it down to H&R and Progressive
Now my question is, is Progressive made the same, or is it made like Intrax? I had intrax on my 98 and they sucked...I went to H&R then and loved them. H&R are same design as Eibachs....so I am wondering since there really isn't any pics of the springs alone.
Now my question is, is Progressive made the same, or is it made like Intrax? I had intrax on my 98 and they sucked...I went to H&R then and loved them. H&R are same design as Eibachs....so I am wondering since there really isn't any pics of the springs alone.
01-17-2002, 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Okay guys...I have narrowed it down to H&R and Progressive
Now my question is, is Progressive made the same, or is it made like Intrax? I had intrax on my 98 and they sucked...I went to H&R then and loved them. H&R are same design as Eibachs....so I am wondering since there really isn't any pics of the springs alone.
Okay guys...I have narrowed it down to H&R and Progressive
Now my question is, is Progressive made the same, or is it made like Intrax? I had intrax on my 98 and they sucked...I went to H&R then and loved them. H&R are same design as Eibachs....so I am wondering since there really isn't any pics of the springs alone.
do you mean whether or not they are progressively wound like the H&R's?
directly from a website:
Progress Sport Springs: Maximum performance, cold wound, stress relieved annd powder coated street or autocross lowering springs will drop your ride aggressively. Intelligent design and modern manufacturing techniques allow progressive rates where appropriate.
Now I haven't seen the any other springs for the maxima, but I can say the springs progress springs looked almost exactly like my stock springs, just shorter.
01-17-2002, 04:39 PM
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What's the link to the site, and does the car ride okay, smooth, no clunks, etc?
Originally posted by ispeed
do you mean whether or not they are progressively wound like the H&R's?
directly from a website:
Progress Sport Springs: Maximum performance, cold wound, stress relieved annd powder coated street or autocross lowering springs will drop your ride aggressively. Intelligent design and modern manufacturing techniques allow progressive rates where appropriate.
Now I haven't seen the any other springs for the maxima, but I can say the springs progress springs looked almost exactly like my stock springs, just shorter.
do you mean whether or not they are progressively wound like the H&R's?
directly from a website:
Progress Sport Springs: Maximum performance, cold wound, stress relieved annd powder coated street or autocross lowering springs will drop your ride aggressively. Intelligent design and modern manufacturing techniques allow progressive rates where appropriate.
Now I haven't seen the any other springs for the maxima, but I can say the springs progress springs looked almost exactly like my stock springs, just shorter.
01-17-2002, 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
What's the link to the site, and does the car ride okay, smooth, no clunks, etc?
What's the link to the site, and does the car ride okay, smooth, no clunks, etc?
01-17-2002, 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Okay guys...I have narrowed it down to H&R and Progressive
Now my question is, is Progressive made the same, or is it made like Intrax? I had intrax on my 98 and they sucked...I went to H&R then and loved them. H&R are same design as Eibachs....so I am wondering since there really isn't any pics of the springs alone.
Okay guys...I have narrowed it down to H&R and Progressive
Now my question is, is Progressive made the same, or is it made like Intrax? I had intrax on my 98 and they sucked...I went to H&R then and loved them. H&R are same design as Eibachs....so I am wondering since there really isn't any pics of the springs alone.
01-17-2002, 05:37 PM
#30
Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
ooooooo.... can't wait to order a set.....
they look good
ooooooo.... can't wait to order a set.....
they look good
01-17-2002, 05:54 PM
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Tell me if this link does not work: http://www.webphotos.com/list_photos...&smi=1&a=52509 . Theres three pics in the Album that I just took. Before the drop I could fit about 4 fingers in the wheel well now 2 fingers fit pretty drop another CM lower after some miles.
01-17-2002, 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by emax95
Tell me if this link does not work: http://www.webphotos.com/list_photos...&smi=1&a=52509 . Theres three pics in the Album that I just took. Before the drop I could fit about 4 fingers in the wheel well now 2 fingers fit pretty drop another CM lower after some miles.
Tell me if this link does not work: http://www.webphotos.com/list_photos...&smi=1&a=52509 . Theres three pics in the Album that I just took. Before the drop I could fit about 4 fingers in the wheel well now 2 fingers fit pretty drop another CM lower after some miles.
01-17-2002, 05:59 PM
#33
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Okay guys...I have narrowed it down to H&R and Progressive
Now my question is, is Progressive made the same, or is it made like Intrax? I had intrax on my 98 and they sucked...I went to H&R then and loved them. H&R are same design as Eibachs....so I am wondering since there really isn't any pics of the springs alone.
Okay guys...I have narrowed it down to H&R and Progressive
Now my question is, is Progressive made the same, or is it made like Intrax? I had intrax on my 98 and they sucked...I went to H&R then and loved them. H&R are same design as Eibachs....so I am wondering since there really isn't any pics of the springs alone.
01-17-2002, 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
What's the link to the site, and does the car ride okay, smooth, no clunks, etc?
What's the link to the site, and does the car ride okay, smooth, no clunks, etc?
www.progressauto.com
yeah it rides fine ... smooth and no clunks or any noises whatsoever. I remember reading that if you don't like your car making noises, don't lower it ... well I lowered it and no noises
01-17-2002, 06:33 PM
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Help a brotha out!
Question from the new guy 
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I bought my first new car last September, and it happened to be a 2001 Supa Black GXE
I'm a HUGE car nut, and I could've gotten a whole lotta great cond. used sports cars for $20k, but The Max gave me speed, looks, quality, and utility all in one package. Add post-9/11 financing from the dealer and I was sold.
I am not a rich man (first job, getting married, only 23), but to me it seems that the Maxspeed/KYB AGX route is the way to go. First off, you are getting a progressive-rate spring from an ISO 9000-certified manufacturing company.
YES...I understand that some of you would say that you get what you pay for, but what small amount of ride comfort you lose with the MAX's over H&R and Eibach you regain in control with the KYB AGX's. Give me a set of $400 springs and they won't be worth the cardboard box they came in if I bolt them to my stock shox! Control ULTIMATELY comes from the dampening force of the struts/shocks...and to have adjustable shocks would offset the harsh nature of the Maxspeed springs (make 'em as soft as possible to smooth out the ride when you're taking clients out to lunch!)
Care to comment, ladies?
...I bought my first new car last September, and it happened to be a 2001 Supa Black GXE
I'm a HUGE car nut, and I could've gotten a whole lotta great cond. used sports cars for $20k, but The Max gave me speed, looks, quality, and utility all in one package. Add post-9/11 financing from the dealer and I was sold.I am not a rich man (first job, getting married, only 23), but to me it seems that the Maxspeed/KYB AGX route is the way to go. First off, you are getting a progressive-rate spring from an ISO 9000-certified manufacturing company.
YES...I understand that some of you would say that you get what you pay for, but what small amount of ride comfort you lose with the MAX's over H&R and Eibach you regain in control with the KYB AGX's. Give me a set of $400 springs and they won't be worth the cardboard box they came in if I bolt them to my stock shox! Control ULTIMATELY comes from the dampening force of the struts/shocks...and to have adjustable shocks would offset the harsh nature of the Maxspeed springs (make 'em as soft as possible to smooth out the ride when you're taking clients out to lunch!)
Care to comment, ladies?
01-17-2002, 06:58 PM
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Re: Help a brotha out!
Originally posted by zeitgeist57
YES...I understand that some of you would say that you get what you pay for, but what small amount of ride comfort you lose with the MAX's over H&R and Eibach you regain in control with the KYB AGX's. Give me a set of $400 springs and they won't be worth the cardboard box they came in if I bolt them to my stock shox! Control ULTIMATELY comes from the dampening force of the struts/shocks...and to have adjustable shocks would offset the harsh nature of the Maxspeed springs (make 'em as soft as possible to smooth out the ride when you're taking clients out to lunch!)
Care to comment, ladies?
YES...I understand that some of you would say that you get what you pay for, but what small amount of ride comfort you lose with the MAX's over H&R and Eibach you regain in control with the KYB AGX's. Give me a set of $400 springs and they won't be worth the cardboard box they came in if I bolt them to my stock shox! Control ULTIMATELY comes from the dampening force of the struts/shocks...and to have adjustable shocks would offset the harsh nature of the Maxspeed springs (make 'em as soft as possible to smooth out the ride when you're taking clients out to lunch!)
Care to comment, ladies?
KYB AGX's in there softest form are still a bit stiffer then stock shocks. If you team up the KYB's with harsh springs your ride will still be a bit ruffer then if you used a soft spring.
01-17-2002, 07:06 PM
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Re: Re: Help a brotha out!
Originally posted by emax95
Well I'm a guy, can I make a coment?
KYB AGX's in there softest form are still a bit stiffer then stock shocks. If you team up the KYB's with harsh springs your ride will still be a bit ruffer then if you used a soft spring.
Well I'm a guy, can I make a coment?
KYB AGX's in there softest form are still a bit stiffer then stock shocks. If you team up the KYB's with harsh springs your ride will still be a bit ruffer then if you used a soft spring.
From what I've seen from you so far you seem to like them quite a bit. Were there any install/fitment issues? Any noises? do you recommend them based on what you've seen and felt so far?
Thanks in advance.