Remember the 4th gen 5th gen debates?
01-21-2002, 08:34 AM
#1
Supporting Maxima.org Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 2,909
Remember the 4th gen 5th gen debates?
With the '02 out I wonder if the 4th gen guys will still say there cars are faster cause there lighter.
Just talking $h!t, have a good one guys!
Mark
Just talking $h!t, have a good one guys!
Mark
<~~ 4th gen guys
01-21-2002, 10:10 AM
#5
Not DAVEB the parts guy
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 8,555
I'm willing to bet there are some NA bolt-on 4th gens that can hang with or beat a 02 auto/6 speed in stock form or with an intake and catback. A few auto 2k2s and 6 speed 2k2s (stock and with intakes) have hit 14.3s-14.7s@94-96mph which is right in line with a handful of 4th gens with an intake, y-pipe, and exhaust. I believe the quickest NA Max is still a 4th gen, right? The 2k2 Max is by far a quicker car in stock form. There's no doubting that. Unfortunately for the 2k2, it looks like the "Holy Grail" of NA mods will not apply to this model because of the current design. I don't see how anyone could come up with a pipe for the 2k2 that will rival the gains of y-pipe on a 95-01 Maxima.
Overall, with an intake, exhaust tweaks, and lighterweight wheels, the 2k2 will probably be the fastest Max to date by a couple tenths. However, many 2k2 owners believe thier Maxs are lightyears ahead in terms of acceleration compared to a 4th gen, which isn't true. Am I scared of the 2k2 in a drag race? No not really. My driving has improved substainally over the past year and I consider myself a pretty good driver. I know the 2k2 is probably a faster car in the right hands, but there are very few people that know how to drive on the street or strip.
Dave
Overall, with an intake, exhaust tweaks, and lighterweight wheels, the 2k2 will probably be the fastest Max to date by a couple tenths. However, many 2k2 owners believe thier Maxs are lightyears ahead in terms of acceleration compared to a 4th gen, which isn't true. Am I scared of the 2k2 in a drag race? No not really. My driving has improved substainally over the past year and I consider myself a pretty good driver. I know the 2k2 is probably a faster car in the right hands, but there are very few people that know how to drive on the street or strip.
Dave
01-21-2002, 12:34 PM
#8
Supporting Maxima.org Member
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 347
Re: Remember the 4th gen 5th gen debates?
Originally posted by Maximam
With the '02 out I wonder if the 4th gen guys will still say there cars are faster cause there lighter.
Just talking $h!t, have a good one guys!
Mark
With the '02 out I wonder if the 4th gen guys will still say there cars are faster cause there lighter.
Just talking $h!t, have a good one guys!
Mark
Speed is not everything, if that was the case, everybody would be running around with riced out Honduhs.
01-21-2002, 01:02 PM
#9
Supporting Maxima.org Member
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 672
Re: Re: Remember the 4th gen 5th gen debates?
Originally posted by N1sMO
I had a 96 SE and I thought that thing was a POS. The car's interior rattles and it felt like there was a lot of flex in the chassis. The engine knocked despite the fact I give it 92 octane (but then my y2k knocks a little too). And the 5th gen is just soooo much more refined. It's like the 4th gen was the Beta and 5th gen was the Final. Comparing my 4th gen to my 5th is like comparing a maxima to a 540 Speed is not everything, if that was the case, everybody would be running around with riced out Honduhs.
I had a 96 SE and I thought that thing was a POS. The car's interior rattles and it felt like there was a lot of flex in the chassis. The engine knocked despite the fact I give it 92 octane (but then my y2k knocks a little too). And the 5th gen is just soooo much more refined. It's like the 4th gen was the Beta and 5th gen was the Final. Comparing my 4th gen to my 5th is like comparing a maxima to a 540
Speed is not everything, if that was the case, everybody would be running around with riced out Honduhs.
01-21-2002, 01:04 PM
#10
Re: Re: Remember the 4th gen 5th gen debates?
Originally posted by N1sMO
I had a 96 SE and I thought that thing was a POS. The car's interior rattles and it felt like there was a lot of flex in the chassis. The engine knocked despite the fact I give it 92 octane (but then my y2k knocks a little too). And the 5th gen is just soooo much more refined. It's like the 4th gen was the Beta and 5th gen was the Final. Comparing my 4th gen to my 5th is like comparing a maxima to a 540 Speed is not everything, if that was the case, everybody would be running around with riced out Honduhs.
I had a 96 SE and I thought that thing was a POS. The car's interior rattles and it felt like there was a lot of flex in the chassis. The engine knocked despite the fact I give it 92 octane (but then my y2k knocks a little too). And the 5th gen is just soooo much more refined. It's like the 4th gen was the Beta and 5th gen was the Final. Comparing my 4th gen to my 5th is like comparing a maxima to a 540
Speed is not everything, if that was the case, everybody would be running around with riced out Honduhs.
Hmmmm....I have the exact opposite opinion of 5th gens......assembled better than the 4th gens, but feels even more soul-less than the 4th gens.......
3rd gens rule.
01-21-2002, 01:55 PM
#11
Re: Remember the 4th gen 5th gen debates?
Originally posted by Maximam
With the '02 out I wonder if the 4th gen guys will still say there cars are faster cause there lighter.
Just talking $h!t, have a good one guys!
Mark
With the '02 out I wonder if the 4th gen guys will still say there cars are faster cause there lighter.
Just talking $h!t, have a good one guys!
Mark
bring those HEAVY 02's on!!!
01-21-2002, 02:07 PM
#13
Re: Re: Remember the 4th gen 5th gen debates?
Originally posted by redmaxpa007
i haven't raced a MAXIMA and lost yet!!!
bring those HEAVY 02's on!!!
i haven't raced a MAXIMA and lost yet!!!
bring those HEAVY 02's on!!!
oooohhhhh.. wait.... i haven't raced any maximas..... i only race hondas...
01-21-2002, 02:48 PM
#14
Not DAVEB the parts guy
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 8,555
My Max has very few rattles and this is on Intrax springs and 30 degree weather. In the warmer weather I've got no rattles. I think that's quite an accomplishment for a 6 year-old car. However, I have driven seven other 4th gens now and it does seem that some of the later 96+ 4th gens do have dash rattle problems, especially the A-pillars and upper dash.
I forgot to mention that if the European/Middle East 4th gen (220hp) variable intake works (3 of them in the US currently), you 2k2 Max guys may be running for cover. This may be the NA "13 second" mod for the 4th gen
Dave
I forgot to mention that if the European/Middle East 4th gen (220hp) variable intake works (3 of them in the US currently), you 2k2 Max guys may be running for cover. This may be the NA "13 second" mod for the 4th gen
Dave
01-22-2002, 03:47 PM
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 2,151
Originally posted by yo_its_ok
Yes when left in D to let the computer do its thang thang. manually shift both properly and the 5th gen wins by a bumper.
Yes when left in D to let the computer do its thang thang. manually shift both properly and the 5th gen wins by a bumper.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
RWCreative
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
9
09-21-2015 11:01 AM
Violator
4th Generation Classifieds (1995-1999)
1
09-09-2015 10:14 AM