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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 09:08 PM
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help with problem since led install please help!

I decided to take on the job of doing the window switches to blue leds. Figuring it was my first time I did the rears first since I heard it was easier. Started with the drivers side and everything went smoothly. Nice blue led beautiful look so I put it all together. Then I moved too the passenger side and everything went downhill. When I went too put the switch on it looked nice but accidentally hit the positive with negative. Fuse blew and I replaced it. But now both side leds are extremely faint and my rear Windows won't go down or my passenger side front window. But my drivers side window and sunroof works. Really need the help, thanks in advance.
Old Jun 13, 2014 | 09:33 PM
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Do they not go down using the individual switches and the master control?

How does one touch the negative and positive together when theyre plugs??
Old Jun 13, 2014 | 09:37 PM
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Right they do not go down by the master switch or individual and because the resistor touched the negative
Old Jun 13, 2014 | 09:52 PM
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Right they do not go down by the master switch or individual and because the resistor touched the negative
Well, you said the fuses are all good..my best guess is you fried the master switch... thats what would explain the front window not going down as well..
And just an FYI.. The master looks like this on the inside and is 20000x more difficult to work with than than the other switches ..

Im all for DIY! But maybe you should look into someone else doing them for you? First things first though.. get them all working again. Id get another master control switch to start with.

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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 09:58 PM
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But if I fried my master switch why does my driver side window and sunroof work
Old Jun 13, 2014 | 10:09 PM
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And the weird part about is that the little lights on the passenger side light up fine but the rear ones are faint
Old Jun 13, 2014 | 10:39 PM
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But if I fried my master switch why does my driver side window and sunroof work
Because it Ay have just fried those 3? And the leds probably fried from the short circuit
Old Jun 14, 2014 | 04:47 AM
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I hope your not using extra resistors and there is a good write up and pics here by a guy named TunerMax.
Old Jun 14, 2014 | 05:23 AM
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I hope your not using extra resistors and there is a good write up and pics here by a guy named TunerMax.
what do you mean extra.? i just ordered a set of resistors but i only used 1 resistor for the led.
Old Jun 14, 2014 | 05:34 AM
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search it

Simple there is a search button up top
Use it and your question will most likely come up
Diy is fun but you need to be prepared and knowledgable abouy the situation.
Just use the search button
Good luck
Old Jun 14, 2014 | 05:58 AM
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real funny coco. seriously need help. esli de cake
Originally Posted by Juanurbinapr
Simple there is a search button up top
Use it and your question will most likely come up
Diy is fun but you need to be prepared and knowledgable abouy the situation.
Just use the search button
Good luck
Old Jun 14, 2014 | 08:26 AM
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so at this point changing the master switch is the only option? do you really think thats what it is?
Old Jun 14, 2014 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by e.esco

what do you mean extra.? i just ordered a set of resistors but i only used 1 resistor for the led.
How are you connecting them in the switch exactlly..?

And I mean thats where id start..
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The switches need NO resistors! They are all smd and dont need them
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https://maxima.org/showthread.php?t=644403
Old Jun 14, 2014 | 06:40 PM
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The switches need NO resistors! They are all smd and dont need them
The rears do
Old Jun 16, 2014 | 05:44 AM
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no matter what you do to these cars,,anything anyone wants to tinker ,,always remove the negative terminal on the battery,,it saves a lot of headaches
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Originally Posted by e.esco
The rears do
no they don't.


I have NEVER put resistors in any window switches, never needed to. 4th gen or 5th gen, they're LED already, we're just changing from LED to LED. NO RESISTOR NEEDED.

I think I told you this when you PMed me. I also linked you to a thread that gave DIY instructions for you, and those DIY instructions had NO resistor.






best guess from the information in this thread is you accidentally bridged some of the legs somehow when you used the unneeded resistor. Since we have no idea how you routed your resistor, get spares from a junkyard and go back to stock on the ones you played with, ok? Then when you're back to stock and verified everything works again, either try your LEDs again or send them to someone who will do them for you.

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Old Jun 16, 2014 | 09:36 AM
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mines did have resistors in the rear and shinjiduo is going to do all my switches and and hvac after i get my master switch. but when i sent him a picture and i looked it up he said i have 6th gen master switches. btw i appreciate the write up link you sent me

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no they don't.


I have NEVER put resistors in any window switches, never needed to. 4th gen or 5th gen, they're LED already, we're just changing from LED to LED. NO RESISTOR NEEDED.

I think I told you this when you PMed me. I also linked you to a thread that gave DIY instructions for you, and those DIY instructions had NO resistor.






best guess from the information in this thread is you accidentally bridged some of the legs somehow when you used the unneeded resistor. Since we have no idea how you routed your resistor, get spares from a junkyard and go back to stock on the ones you played with, ok? Then when you're back to stock and verified everything works again, either try your LEDs again or send them to someone who will do them for you.
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You DO NOT have 6th gen switches in your 5th gen they would never work without changing the BCM and almost all the door wiring.i have done dozens of switches 4th and 5th gen and even did a writeup on here with pictures.you DO NOT know what you are looking at you dont understand what your doing. And btw there is 3 types of 5th and 5.5 gen master switches and unhooking the battery has nothing to do with anything.
Old Jun 18, 2014 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Fixer
You DO NOT have 6th gen switches in your 5th gen they would never work without changing the BCM and almost all the door wiring.i have done dozens of switches 4th and 5th gen and even did a writeup on here with pictures.you DO NOT know what you are looking at you dont understand what your doing. And btw there is 3 types of 5th and 5.5 gen master switches and unhooking the battery has nothing to do with anything.
Just out of curiosity, what are the 3 different types? I know the 5.5s and 5s are different. . But whats the other one?
Old Jun 18, 2014 | 07:59 AM
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this is my window switch.


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Originally Posted by King_Ten_Ahead
Just out of curiosity, what are the 3 different types? I know the 5.5s and 5s are different. . But whats the other one?
Old Jun 18, 2014 | 08:02 AM
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all the research ive done says this is a 6th gen window switch. i seen a couple different 2000-2003 window switches but they didnt look like this. it looks exactly the like the one i have. mine is pictured below. At this point one of us is wrong.

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this is my window switch.


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And that makes you wrong.

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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 05:23 PM
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but why cant i find that same switch for my car anywhere. the only way i found it is through the 6 gen switch


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That is a 5.5 gen switch

And that makes you wrong.
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but why cant i find that same switch for my car anywhere. the only way i found it is through the 6 gen switch
The switch i posted is your switch right? Well thats a 5.5 gen switch
Old Jun 18, 2014 | 05:38 PM
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The switch i posted is your switch right? Well thats a 5.5 gen switch
Liar.
Old Jun 18, 2014 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Fakie J Farkerton
Liar.
What you mean?
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Originally Posted by The_Fixer
You DO NOT have 6th gen switches in your 5th gen they would never work without changing the BCM and almost all the door wiring.i have done dozens of switches 4th and 5th gen and even did a writeup on here with pictures.you DO NOT know what you are looking at you dont understand what your doing. And btw there is 3 types of 5th and 5.5 gen master switches and unhooking the battery has nothing to do with anything.
Some 2003's have a 6th Gen Master in them. The only difference between some 03" and 04" / 05" switches being Green versus Orange LEDs. I have done such swaps many times so I know they work.

Pic of Master from a 2005 Max:



Look Familiar? They also have the exact same circuit board internally as well.

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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 03:45 AM
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They may look the same but the plug wiring is different just like the difference between 5th gen and 5.5 gen
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Originally Posted by The_Fixer
They may look the same but the plug wiring is different just like the difference between 5th gen and 5.5 gen
You missed the whole "I've done the swap" line, didn't you? I do LED mods all the time and because 6th gen switches for a while had been both more plentiful and cheaper than 5.5 gen switches that look like yours I would get those instead of paying $80 to $100 on a master. Now they do have 5.5 gen switches that look like 5th gen switches that are indeed wired differently but the ones that look like 6th Gen switches are indeed 6th gen switches with green LEDs instead of orange LEDs. I would imagine Nissan felt it was cheaper to go ahead and transition to the new switches instead of staying with the old 5.5 gen switches back in 03". I assure you on 7 different occasions I have done this swap and every time it works, with no modifications.
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Looking up part numbers, the dates indicate the master switch usage overlapped 5th & 6th gen.

part # 25401-7Y010 was used from Jan 2003 through Aug 2005.

Looking at the wire harness, part number 24125-6Y303 is the only one listed for the 2003 model.
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