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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 07:27 PM
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Best Brand for Control Arm?

Hey guys, first post here.

I've had my 5gen for a little over a year now. I took her in for a regular service and the tech told me my passenger side wheel almost fell off when they put in on the lift yesterday.
The control arm needs to be replaced.

I was looking for an opinion on what brand I should use. Any experience is greatly appreciated.

ACDelco
MOOG
Raybestos
Deeza
Mevotech
Beck/Arnley

What would the life expectancy be on some of these. Thanks for your time! =)
Old Jul 13, 2014 | 07:41 PM
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Moog FTW IMO.

Make sure you get the professional grade Moog as there are two types.

Check out the rockauto website, and welcome to the org!
Old Jul 13, 2014 | 07:43 PM
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^they only make 1 style of arm.

I just got a moog off amazon. $69
Don't know what is better but moog seems to be a top brand.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007ZLLULU/...332200_TE_item

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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 07:51 PM
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Thanks guys,

I've heard MOOGPro alot, but also hear their quality has been slipping noticeably recently. A good friend of mine is really impressed with the quality of his Deeza parts, I think they are from Turkey.

I was going to purchase through Rock, glad to hear I'm at least in the right spot! Gratitude guys.
Old Jul 13, 2014 | 07:52 PM
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^they only make 1 style of arm.
Not talking out of my **** here.

Depends on where you shop I'm sure.
Old Jul 13, 2014 | 08:03 PM
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I looked at the moog site.
Only the R-series

http://www.fme-cat.com/Application.a...uspension&ga=Y
Old Jul 13, 2014 | 08:24 PM
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I looked at the moog site. Only the R-series http://www.fme-cat.com/Application.a...uspension&ga=Y
I believe R series is the better one and the "problem solver" brand is the one that's ok to put on if you're about to sell the car.
Old Jul 13, 2014 | 08:40 PM
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Deeza is good. I put both Deeza arms on in 2010 (4th gen), and they're still going strong. Look just like OEM imho.
Old Jul 14, 2014 | 06:26 AM
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Any of the above brands are fine for OEM replacement. Out of curiosity, did you ever have a Power Steering leak? If so, it's VERY common for that leak to eat away at the control arm bushing rubber, which then leads to it requiring a replacement.

FYI Moog only makes one control arm. Their OTHER parts are what have different levels.
Old Jul 14, 2014 | 06:39 AM
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MOOG FTW

Luckily my OEM control arms are still good, but it will be MOOG when they crap out.
Old Jul 14, 2014 | 09:35 AM
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Any of the above brands are fine for OEM replacement. Out of curiosity, did you ever have a Power Steering leak? If so, it's VERY common for that leak to eat away at the control arm bushing rubber, which then leads to it requiring a replacement.

FYI Moog only makes one control arm. Their OTHER parts are what have different levels.
Check the link above. Shows two.
Old Jul 14, 2014 | 09:43 AM
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I wanted to buy OEM, but they were way too much up here in Canada, so I settled on a pair of Beck/Arnleys, and taking bumps feels so much more tolerable now with new bushings and ball joints.
Old Jul 14, 2014 | 10:30 AM
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Yes actually

Originally Posted by djfrestyl
Any of the above brands are fine for OEM replacement. Out of curiosity, did you ever have a Power Steering leak? If so, it's VERY common for that leak to eat away at the control arm bushing rubber, which then leads to it requiring a replacement.

FYI Moog only makes one control arm. Their OTHER parts are what have different levels.
I have an active power steering leak. Trying to diagnose whether it's the hose, pump, or the rack. The tech said they couldn't tell without cleaning and labor. I REALLY hope it's not the rack but it's leaking REAL bad. First issues I've had with it at all, just rolled 140k.
Old Jul 14, 2014 | 10:34 AM
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From the browsing I've done

I see two separate MOOG control arms listed over at Rock. The R-Series and the significantly more expensive Problem Solver. Logic would imply the Problem Solver is the "Pro" line from MOOG, but obviously there seems to be some disagreement =D

Which should I get?
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I am a MOOG fan myself.
Old Jul 14, 2014 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxachusetts
I see two separate MOOG control arms listed over at Rock. The R-Series and the significantly more expensive Problem Solver. Logic would imply the Problem Solver is the "Pro" line from MOOG, but obviously there seems to be some disagreement =D Which should I get?
I must have had it backwards. Whoops.
Didn't see a price right off so I was guessing.

The expensive one is the quality one.
So if problem solver is more expensive, it's the better made part.
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Originally Posted by Maxachusetts
I have an active power steering leak. Trying to diagnose whether it's the hose, pump, or the rack. The tech said they couldn't tell without cleaning and labor. I REALLY hope it's not the rack but it's leaking REAL bad. First issues I've had with it at all, just rolled 140k.
It's the high pressure hose. Very common on 5th gens. $140 for the part. Get OEM ONLY. Do NOT get an aftermarket hose.

Then, fix the control arm. Otherwise you'll just eat away at the new arm.
Old Jul 14, 2014 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Fakie J Farkerton
I must have had it backwards. Whoops.
Didn't see a price right off so I was guessing.

The expensive one is the quality one.
So if problem solver is more expensive, it's the better made part.
This must be a new product.

CK series = problem solver. More expensive, better item. Looks like the ball joint is the problem solver greasable version.

RK = standard, which I've been installing for years without issue. Just as good as OEM if not better.
Old Jul 14, 2014 | 12:04 PM
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Awesome you guys have been super helpful. I'm going to order a MOOG Problem Solver control arm for around a hundred bucks.

I'm having a problem finding an OEM HPPS Hose though. Would a Gates brand suffice or would it just cause unnecessary whining, I've seen some debate on it.

What a wealth of knowledge =)
Old Jul 14, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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Awesome you guys have been super helpful. I'm going to order a MOOG Problem Solver control arm for around a hundred bucks. I'm having a problem finding an OEM HPPS Hose though. Would a Gates brand suffice or would it just cause unnecessary whining, I've seen some debate on it. What a wealth of knowledge =)
OEM only for the HPPS hose or you will get a whine.

Courtesy parts or tri city Nissan are good Oem sites.
Old Jul 14, 2014 | 01:53 PM
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Hmmm, I may just have to deal with some whine, I really can't justify spending $250-$300 on an OEM HPPS.
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It's $140.

I'm with you, I'm all for saving a buck where possible.

But there are some things worth getting OEM for, and some where aftermarket is superior.

It is WORTH buying OEM for this. And the HPPS is one of the very few parts in this category. Trust us.
Old Jul 14, 2014 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
It's $140.

I'm with you, I'm all for saving a buck where possible.

But there are some things worth getting OEM for, and some where aftermarket is superior.

It is WORTH buying OEM for this. And the HPPS is one of the very few parts in this category. Trust us.
Thanks for all the help, I was real scared how much this whole thing was going to cost when the tech started rattling off numbers.

Any idea where I could order one for that price? Or a part number I could track down? I've been to four or five major auto parts suppliers online AND through NissanUSA. Cheapest I found was $230, all the way up to $325.
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Thanks for all the help, I was real scared how much this whole thing was going to cost when the tech started rattling off numbers. Any idea where I could order one for that price? Or a part number I could track down? I've been to four or five major auto parts suppliers online AND through NissanUSA. Cheapest I found was $230, all the way up to $325.
http://www.courtesyparts.com/
This one usually has courtesy's prices beat:
http://nissanpartsasap.com/
Old Jul 14, 2014 | 03:43 PM
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Have a look at the following

http://www.nissanpartsasap.com/ (Tri Cities Nissan...my first choice)
https://www.everythingnissan.com/
http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...?siteid=214143
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Why do you guys think aftermarket hoses give off a whine and oem does not?
Old Jul 14, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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Thanks a million

I checked out those four sites, cheapest I can find on the 2000 HPPS Hose is $197. Way better than MSRP, but I'll have some serious thinking to do before I order the OEM at that price compared to an $80 Gates. I trust you guys though prob just have to cough up the cash.

Hmmm...

Thanks a million guys, I totally appreciate it, life savers!

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sorry bud...those are the least expensive I've seen for Nissan OEM.
I'm guessing there some slight but critical difference in diameter/length/specs that results in a different flow rate/pressure..ps, I just pulled that answer out of my butt
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Originally Posted by Donkeypunch
Why do you guys think aftermarket hoses give off a whine and oem does not?
We dont think it will whine, i personally know it will whine cause i bought the edelmann hose and later bought the oem hose cuz i couldnt take the whinning
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Originally Posted by Donkeypunch
Why do you guys think aftermarket hoses give off a whine and oem does not?

diameter....as for control arms


i just bought moog
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I had a moog put in and so far it has handled slammed car daily driving for about a month but the inner cv boot ripped again -_-"
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Originally Posted by Donkeypunch
Why do you guys think aftermarket hoses give off a whine and oem does not?
my aftermarket is fine. no whining. im an exception to the rule
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxterror
diameter....
Which is bigger or smaller?

Originally Posted by cornholio
my aftermarket is fine. no whining. im an exception to the rule
What brand?

Mine is oem and it wines just idling.
Something there needs replacing I hope it's just the line that's leaking.


btw, is it the banjo bolt that leaks or the actual line? At the crimp?
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Originally Posted by george__
I had a moog put in and so far it has handled slammed car daily driving for about a month but the inner cv boot ripped again -_-"
I hope the fact that your CV boot ripped (again) doesn't come as an unexpected surprise....
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Originally Posted by Donkeypunch
Which is bigger or smaller?



What brand?

Mine is oem and it wines just idling.
Something there needs replacing I hope it's just the line that's leaking.


btw, is it the banjo bolt that leaks or the actual line? At the crimp?
Smaller diameter and it leaks at the line not the banjo. Im on my first high pressure line replacement (gates) I just replaced the return line too
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What about replacing the bushings with energy suspension instead of replacing if they aren't bent or anything like that. What are the opinions of you guys??
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What about replacing the bushings with energy suspension instead of replacing if they aren't bent or anything like that. What are the opinions of you guys??
This is the best solution. You can also get a nice ball joint while you're at it. And if you compare the price this is the cheapest!
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^^ SOMETIMES pressing in new bushings into existing arms is more arduous than just replacing with a fresh arm.

All has to do with budget, requirements, time, priorities. Personal preferences prevail.
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I purchased Evan-Fisher control arms. Having them installed this Friday along with new inner and outer tire rods.



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