02 Nissan Maxima Struts
Hi. You all have definitely been a big help lately! :D
I think I need to get the struts changed on my car. It has 150,000 miles I don't think I ever changed the struts. But I'm curious as to what struts I need. Specifically, I see Monroe struts a lot, but what about some other brands like KYB? I was going to get a local mechanic to install them for cheap but want to make sure I do this right. Also, for an even cheaper price can I do this myself? Thank you!!! |
Keep it simple KYB GR-2's
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Seriously? There is a 30 page thread halfway down the page that explains all of this.
https://maxima.org/forums/5th-genera...on-thread.html |
Originally Posted by kingkai1990
(Post 9053507)
Hi. You all have definitely been a big help lately! :D
I think I need to get the struts changed on my car. It has 150,000 miles I don't think I ever changed the struts. But I'm curious as to what struts I need. Specifically, I see Monroe struts a lot, but what about some other brands like KYB? I was going to get a local mechanic to install them for cheap but want to make sure I do this right. Also, for an even cheaper price can I do this myself? Thank you!!! |
Originally Posted by djfrestyl
(Post 9053520)
Seriously? There is a 30 page thread halfway down the page that explains all of this.
https://maxima.org/forums/5th-genera...on-thread.html |
Originally Posted by colt149
(Post 9053528)
You can buy Tokico Blue or Tokico illumina at autoanything.com which is far better than KYB. Tokico brand is the OEM Genuine Nissan struts the only difference OEM tokico is fluid type while Tokico blue is gas type.
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Originally Posted by kingkai1990
(Post 9053537)
You could have at least been a little more useful while you're at it instead of complaining. You've contributed nothing at all. :rolleyes:
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I'm ordering sachs for all 4 corners for my mother in-law's I30. I don't think a lot of members have used them. I had nothing but good experiences with them back when I was wrenching.
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
(Post 9053548)
Not necessarily. All depends on multiple factors that should be considered. Illuminas are overkill for most. Blues are too soft for most. Can't make a sweeping statement like this without taking into consideration the buyer's preferences.
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Originally Posted by kingkai1990
(Post 9053569)
I just have...um... normal needs I think. :D
These are the inputs I am referring to. People have preferences. Has nothing to do with normality. |
If you want to do the job yourself and save some money, Monroe Quick Struts are good. I have them in my I35. The ride's a little on the softer side but I don't mind. At 150K miles, there's a good chance your strut mounts and dust boots are not long for this world so another benefit with quick struts is all new hardware.
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Originally Posted by kingkai1990
(Post 9053537)
You've contributed nothing at all. :rolleyes:
There's nothing wrong with suggesting you search the forum for answers to your questions before starting a new thread with an issue that has already been addressed. |
Originally Posted by Unclejunebug
(Post 9053580)
Right, nothing at all. He's only contributed a 30 page thread of nothing but general suspension questions like this and has assisted a countless number of forum users for several years, myself included. :gotme:
There's nothing wrong with suggesting you search the forum for answers to your questions before starting a new thread with an issue that has already been addressed. For your information, I've already googled information about the struts. I could not find relevant information in terms of brands and their reliability. Also, a bit of a red herring you threw there. I'm talking in context of MY thread, not what his history is. Before you speak, please read the context of what one is talking about. There's ways you can address an issue without being a smart *** about something. Saying ''seriously?" as a reply to a thread does not contribute anything. One could have simply said ''Hey, we already have a thread with lot's of resources with a link here''. That would have been more useful. Apparently I'm supposed to know every thread that exists that's not in the sticky. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by kingkai1990
(Post 9053591)
And why did you inject yourself into this thread? Since you can obviously see through my screen, what's my favorite pizza? For your information, I've already googled information about the struts. I could not find relevant information in terms of brands and their reliability. Also, a bit of a red herring you threw there. I'm talking in context of MY thread, not what his history is. Before you speak, please read the context of what one is talking about. There's ways you can address an issue without being a smart *** about something. Saying ''seriously?" as a reply to a thread does not contribute anything. One could have simply said ''Hey, we already have a thread with lot's of resources with a link here''. That would have been more useful. Apparently I'm supposed to know every thread that exists that's not in the sticky. :rolleyes:
Just so you know djfreestyle is probably the most knowledgeable suspension guy on this forum. He's also a hell of a nice guy and he can walk you through any possible questions you could have. So you may want to say your sorry to him and I'm sure he would gladly explain anything you need to you. |
Originally Posted by colt149
(Post 9053528)
You can buy Tokico Blue or Tokico illumina at autoanything.com which is far better than KYB. Tokico brand is the OEM Genuine Nissan struts the only difference OEM tokico is fluid type while Tokico blue is gas type.
I personally do city / daily driving but, also like to have some extra "sport" handeling for when i get in to it (corners) EDIT: also the forum upgrade but, tons and tons of old links some old threads are dead ends. |
Originally Posted by cdoublejj
(Post 9053678)
in what way are they better? I personally do city / daily driving but, also like to have some extra "sport" handeling for when i get in to it (corners)
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2000 SE here ... looking for a nice replacement set of rear shocks. Looking for something sportier than stock, always found the SE not up to par with a sporty ride, so definitely something stiffer. The catch is, I want to maintain stock height.
Thanks for all your help guys |
Originally Posted by Mints33
(Post 9053690)
2000 SE here ... looking for a nice replacement set of rear shocks. Looking for something sportier than stock, always found the SE not up to par with a sporty ride, so definitely something stiffer. The catch is, I want to maintain stock height. Thanks for all your help guys
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Originally Posted by Mattx
(Post 9053699)
To keep stock height just keep stock springs. I think kyb offer a slightly stiffer ride.
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I had tokico blues on stock springs for about a year and wasn't to crazy out it. The ride was softer than stock. It was really noticeable in the rear. I ended up buying OE from Nissan and selling my blues to a orger from Rhode Island. May blues should only be used with lowering springs??
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Originally Posted by Mints33
(Post 9053708)
How reliable are the KYB's? Stock reliability? Or somewhere close?
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Originally Posted by boondoxmax
(Post 9053713)
I had tokico blues on stock springs for about a year and wasn't to crazy out it. The ride was softer than stock. It was really noticeable in the rear. I ended up buying OE from Nissan and selling my blues to a orger from Rhode Island. May blues should only be used with lowering springs??
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Originally Posted by kingkai1990
And why did you inject yourself into this thread? Since you can obviously see through my screen, what's my favorite pizza?
Originally Posted by kingkai1990
For your information, I've already googled information about the struts. I could not find relevant information in terms of brands and their reliability.
Originally Posted by kingkai1990
Also, a bit of a red herring you threw there. I'm talking in context of MY thread, not what his history is. Before you speak, please read the context of what one is talking about.
Originally Posted by kingkai1990
There's ways you can address an issue without being a smart *** about something.
Originally Posted by kingkai1990
Saying ''seriously?" as a reply to a thread does not contribute anything. One could have simply said ''Hey, we already have a thread with lot's of resources with a link here''. That would have been more useful.
Originally Posted by kingkai1990
Apparently I'm supposed to know every thread that exists that's not in the sticky. :rolleyes:
Bottom line, you're here requesting FREE advice from people who are taking time out of their day to help YOU. Based off your OP it sounds like you've already received lots of help, and that's fantastic. But if you receive a response that's doesn't align with what you're looking for, don't take it personally. Anyways, good luck with your struts. I hope you find what you're looking for. |
Originally Posted by Mattx
(Post 9053720)
Blues and illuminas are not in the same ballpark.
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Originally Posted by boondoxmax
(Post 9054058)
Yeah I know, but I was just giving my opinion on blues because theres lots of threads stating blues are stiffer than stock and I don't believe that to be true. :confused:
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Originally Posted by boondoxmax
(Post 9054058)
Yeah I know, but I was just giving my opinion on blues because theres lots of threads stating blues are stiffer than stock and I don't believe that to be true. :confused:
i was under the impression blues felt like a 3 out of 5 on the illumina setting scale, but based on what your saying seems like 1 or less. |
Originally Posted by boondoxmax
(Post 9054058)
Yeah I know, but I was just giving my opinion on blues because theres lots of threads stating blues are stiffer than stock and I don't believe that to be true. :confused:
I bet the springs you use will make a greater difference |
Originally Posted by george__
(Post 9054206)
I bet the springs you use will make a greater difference
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Originally Posted by george__
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I bet the springs you use will make a greater difference
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Originally Posted by Prophecy99
(Post 9054173)
i was under the impression blues felt like a 3 out of 5 on the illumina setting scale, but based on what your saying seems like 1 or less.
Originally Posted by george__
(Post 9054206)
I bet the springs you use will make a greater difference
Originally Posted by boondoxmax
(Post 9054489)
If you get blues then get yourself some got sports springs.
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Originally Posted by Mattx
(Post 9053684)
I think he means as far as illuminas having the adjustability that the kyb don't offer. I have illuminas and I won't say they're better than kybs cause I've never had them but they sure are extremely nice. I've had a ton of cars over the years, and I got to say the illuminas offer a great ride and having on the fly adjustability is awesome. The only setup I could see being nicer in my opinion would be coilovers.
EDIT: how on the fly adjustable are the illuminas? by a switch or getting out and using a wrench? |
Originally Posted by cdoublejj
(Post 9055086)
how much do the illuminas cost and where can get them? how much would coils over cost and don't must suggest tein coilovers and don't sacrifice comfortably for handling? i'm assuming the illuminas have a nice balance?
EDIT: how on the fly adjustable are the illuminas? by a switch or getting out and using a wrench? However, even though they are the same price, you have to be careful to automatically assume it's a better option to get coils. Coilovers are NOT maintenance free, have shorter longevity, are not as comfortable. But the performance is fantastic. Make your decision wisely based on your preferences. Illuminas are very easy to adjust. Small flathead screwdriver to the center of the strut piston. That's under the hood for the fronts, but in the trunk for the rears. Generally I've found that once someone finds the setting that works for them, its rare for them to change the dampening. |
Originally Posted by djfrestyl
(Post 9055108)
Anywhere from $350-$450 for a set. Then you factor in boots, mounts, springs, install and you're right about the same price as new coilovers, which are $800+.
However, even though they are the same price, you have to be careful to automatically assume it's a better option to get coils. Coilovers are NOT maintenance free, have shorter longevity, are not as comfortable. But the performance is fantastic. Make your decision wisely based on your preferences. Illuminas are very easy to adjust. Small flathead screwdriver to the center of the strut piston. That's under the hood for the fronts, but in the trunk for the rears. Generally I've found that once someone finds the setting that works for them, its rare for them to change the dampening. but TEIN SS i heard did ok regardless but they were $1200 c/os |
On the same argument, the cold weather / salt puts stress on all suspension components, including struts.
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Originally Posted by cdoublejj
(Post 9055086)
how much do the illuminas cost and where can get them? how much would coils over cost and don't must suggest tein coilovers and don't sacrifice comfortably for handling? i'm assuming the illuminas have a nice balance? EDIT: how on the fly adjustable are the illuminas? by a switch or getting out and using a wrench?
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Originally Posted by Mattx
(Post 9055371)
You can get good deals on illuminas. It's like everything else you have too shop around and wait sometimes. Last year there were certain times on Amazon that I saw them for as low as 120ish for fronts. Illuminas do have a nice balance of comfort and handling. They are easy to adjust, by taking a screw driver and turning an adjuster on top of strut. They've held up great so far for me in hot and cold weather. I really like them. From everything I've read illuminas and h&r springs make a very good combination.
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Originally Posted by Prophecy99
(Post 9055612)
other than the un even drop of H&R droopy bum look
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
(Post 9055619)
It's really not that bad. The 'rumor' of this has perpetuated for a long time, and makes it out to be worse than reality.
Attachment 16674 sept 2009 ^ upgraded tire wall size, front spacers, and new grille since then. but from the little sag, to the wider front wheel well it was kinda rough (this angle of picture exaggerates it too, but i believe that was pretty level ground |
Originally Posted by Mattx
(Post 9055371)
You can get good deals on illuminas. It's like everything else you have too shop around and wait sometimes. Last year there were certain times on Amazon that I saw them for as low as 120ish for fronts. Illuminas do have a nice balance of comfort and handling. They are easy to adjust, by taking a screw driver and turning an adjuster on top of strut. They've held up great so far for me in hot and cold weather. I really like them. From everything I've read illuminas and h&r springs make a very good combination.
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