Hey guys, Im prolly gunna get a 2002 or 2003 once spring time hits. But, I really want to MOD my 2001 5spd AE. I already have a SMC shifter and K&N drop in, but I want more. If I wasn't getting married, I would of put in super charger by now. So im looking around, and apparently some of these intake systems are interchangable between the 2001 & the 2002+. Do you think I should go ahead and mod this untill I get the new one....if I do?

 

Sure, Get a CAI.

If you are planning on getting a 2K2or3, $200 is a drop in the bucket.

If you are selling your AE you could sell the car with the CAI or sell the CAI in the for sale forum. (The CAI is not compatible with the 2K2)

As for other mods, most of the suspension mods are compatible so get some shocks & springs.

 

I'd seriously recommend the y-pipe before anything else. I did the intake first, felt little to no improvement. Y-pipe made the car feel significantly stronger. You'll love it.

 

yea get an intake.. small power gians but its just the thouhgt that u have one in your car.. and it sounds GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!

 

Frankencar Intake!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Whats so good about this Frankencar intake. Is is swappable between the 2001 and 2002?

 

it's good, not only is it a POP style intake but it also replaces the piping between the MAF and TB. after some though it's interchangable if you dont mind it being ugly. if you buy the one now for you 2k1 if you get a 2k2 i'll sell you just the single piece you need to upgrade it for like 30 bucks, since you already bought the rest from me. just trying to make customers happpy.

 

Has anyone dynod this FrankenIntake thing? What were the stock numbers and what were the gains. Perhaps has anyone track tested it, and how much is one for a 2002? Thanks.

 

yes if you look on my website the dynos are there. before and after, same day, same car, same machine, 10HP GAIN AND 7TQ GAIN !!!!! no track test yet. and they are 149.99 shipped to your door.

 

That is a pretty solid gain and a good price to boot! Thanks!

A friend is picking up a new 6-speed Maxima today, so I am doing some mod research for him.

 

he will be happy with my system, poke around the website, there are pics and videos and stuff.

 

are you guys shipping them out now?

 

So if I buy the frankenthing air intake, all i do is have to buy a 30 piece, and the piece will fit snug on a 2002.....I've been looking around, and others have the same problem as me. they want to mod, and also buy a new 2002.

 

cai are always a good thing to have

 

we will be shipping 2k and 2k1 intakes this week hopefully. i'm so sick, flu i think.

and silentbuzz, yes we are making our CAI's when we do make them to attach right onto our stage 2 for full upgradeabilty. price should be around 30 bucks.

 

get the underdrive pulley. its a great mod. i noticed a improvement on my auto, so you'll notice it more on a 5spd.

 

Frankly I think from the pics of the franencar intake is that you used Marine exhaust tubing and that's clamped to the MAF which is then put on a filter. I like a CAI.

 

thats a nice car.....the girl is o.k. j\k

 

what do you think every other company uses for their piping, EXHUAST TUBING. and and it's no just put onto a filter it's a machined bracket with a K/N filter. i don't mind people saying they don't like it, whatever, but get the facts straight first.

 

I am just saying that anyone can make a shorty make a CAI that doesn't require drilling a hole and maybe you will impress me.

 

i'm working on something similiar, give me a few weeks.

 

Ok I will watch for it.

 

If its under the hood, its not a CAI

 

And my comment about the the intake was that at rhe very end it looks like you used Marine exhaust tubing instead of a silicon couplers. From the pic it looks like marine tubing because I work at a machine shop and we deal with everything to coils for the space shuttle the lockheed martin coils for fighter planes. I could make my own tranny cooler, oil cooler and possibly any cooler I want. I could make them out of stainless steal or copper and copper or aluminum and copper.

 

I don't use exhaust tubing, it's a cheaper alternative and WILL rust unless it stainless steel. My adaptors are 6061 Aluminum, myownnismo, you know that this stuff costs approx 6 TIMES MORE than steel. You can't get exhaust tubing to look as good as polished aluminum, there is no way. That's why the Frankencar intakes are painted silver. Look at my adaptors which are polished aluminum vs the mounting plate that's 304 stainless. Even though the plate is nice, it doesn't come close to the adaptor. Just my humble opinion.

 

I'll be dynoing my FrankenCar Intake this Saturday as well as swapping back to stock for a comparison dyno. After having the FC installed on my 6spd for a couple of days, I can tell you the following:

1) the growl is nice. Only apparent under aggressive throttle openings. If you're driving normally, you won't know it's there by sound;

2) the quality of all the parts included is very good. Cobymoby makes reference to the FC intakes being painted silver and not made of stainless steel. Both non issues in a product that is not subjected to a salt rich environment. Even though salt does get put on the streets in Southern Ontario (where I live), I'm not concerned in the least about the quality of the intake's coating and resistance to corrosion. I believe that Steve is powdercoating and not painting the intakes. The only thing I would add to the package is the bracket mentioned in the install manual that I made up. It is a very simple bracket to make by hand, so it's not a big deal, and Steve has told me that he will look into including this part. Find that at:

http://www.cenpipe.com/~akrusvar/max...ge2install.pdf

3) I am not able to detect any loss of power what-so-ever. If anything, the car has more throughout the entire rpm range - this will be left for the dyno runs Saturday to prove or disprove.

All in all, I think it is a worthwhile modification.

Cobymoby, do you have dyno runs of the Berk intake? I would be interested in seeing stock to Berk dynos as well as more FC to stock and any other intake to stock dynos.

Albert

 

thanks albert, we feel the same way you do, that they won't be exposed to any salt conditions or anything, we also are powdercoating the intakes at a VERY big place in the area. very high tech and very good reputation, he's doing a nice job. we do NOT paint these ourselves. we also are gonna have brackets soon, i've had mine on my car for over a month and saw no need for a bracket, but if you feel it's good insurance to have one we will definelty look into it.

-steve

 

Ok, the input is good. But I want one clear answer. If im gunna buy a 2002, is buying this inatke a waste? Can it truly be used on a 2002 with just as much ease if I buy this $30 piece?

 

Just because your car isn't exposed to salt doesn't mean that it won't rust. I'm in nice sunny Southern Cal, were the weather is always perfect and there's rust under my car. My car has never seen salt, snow, or even below 40 degree weather and there is rust. Unless you're going inside you intake with a q-tip and powder coating the inside of all the tubes, it WILL develop rust inside. I don't think you guys are using 304 stainless exhaust pipe are you?

 

What $30 part?

 

To much tension on this forum I have noticed. If not this intake, then what?

 

so what exactly is the frankencar intake piping (tubing) made out of?

 

It's muffler pipe

 

galvanized and powdercoated, but we are looking into a supplier for SS, although there should never go any salt or water in your intake path, car in good climates rust cus it still rains, it shouldn't rain in your intake.

 

So this is bad. Well, we are asking for alot.

 

Unless you live in the sahara desert there's going to be moisture in the air, hence water inside your intake tube. Nails are galvanized too, and we all know that there are no such things as rusty nails.

I don't think you guys are asking for much. This kind of competition is good for the consumer. Both Berk Technology and Frankencar are now out to put out better and better products. COMPETITION IS GOOD!

 

yes but it will be moving air, very fast moving air, it won't just sit there, nails rust becuase of CONTINUED standing water, and even then they hold up very well, but we are looking for SS piping. they don't even make exhaust all the time out of SS, and it's under you car, salt, rain, snow and ECT, extreme heat and it rusts from the OUTSIDE-In ours are powdercoated on the outside and nothing should get on the inside.

 

Okay Steve, after this lets drop this issue. Nails rust because they are galvanized steel and that galvanizing doesn't hold up very well in harsh conditions. A fence isn't submerged in water but you'll see plenty of rust stains on that wood just from the moisture in the air and/or rain. With intakes, 6061 aluminum or 304 stainless is the proper choice as neither will rust. Aluminum is best because it's light, looks the better than anything else when polished, and will NEVER rust. Every single top intake manufacturer (AEM, Akimoto, etc.) use 6061 aluminum like I do.

But......let's be done with this. I think I've proved my point.

 

You're my kind of guy, Cobymoby. I love a good debate.

First off, since I asked in my original post, do you have any dynos of your intake vs. stock? I am not being confrontational what-so-ever, as a matter of fact if Steve and yourself agree I have a proposition to make. I don't know Steve from Jobe and I most definitely don't owe him anything. I bought his intake based on posts that I read. Your intake, admittedly came out a little late for me to include in my decision, so that's one reason why I didn't pick the Berk.

Let me spell my proposition out for both you and Steve:

Sell me your intake at your asking price as Steve did, I will pay for dyno time to cover FC to Berk to stock intake runs. The catch is this, whichever one I decide to return, is just that - returned for a refund. I am willing to even pay for the shipping charges, so clearly I am going to be on the losing end of all this financially. I am simply offering to be an impartial judge in all of this.

If the 2 of you agree that this is fair, let's get this rolling.

Cobymoby, your reasoning that you are in 'sunny Southern California...' doesn't really tell me much. As far as I know, the Pacific Ocean has plenty of salt in it. You've got plenty of salt in your area. Arguably as much salt as I would see in the winter in Southern Ontario. The salt contamination that passes through a quality air filter such as the K&N is of such a microscopic size that it will evaporate within the shortest of measurable times. These intakes are not being run under a 'shower' of salt water. If this were the case, true CAI's would never be sold anywhere except the 'Sahara'.

Even aluminum will oxidize. It's not rust but it is a whitish residue that is caused by the same culprits that create rust: salt, moisture and oxygen. The Dead Sea is the saltiest place on earth, yet there are steel hulled boats floating on it. The salt encrusts itself and actually becomes a barrier to rust, albeit a very heavy barrier. Aluminum oxidation is every bit a problem that rust is.

So, are you and Steve willing to accept the challenge that I give to you both? Steve has my money, so he has no real reason to go along with this. You can gain another sale, that's about it. One of you has pride to retain whereas the other will have to go 'back to the drawing board'. Will both of you agree to buy back whichever one loses?

Albert

 

akrus is the man.