Chirping from engine bay when A/C is on?
#1
Chirping from engine bay when A/C is on?
Tried searching, couldn't find much.
2001 Maxima, automatic - I hear bird chirping noises when the A/C is on, chirping stops when the AC is off (chirping isn't coming from the blower motor).
Sounds like the noise is coming from the driver's side of the engine which makes me think it isn't the belts - but I did just have the oil changed at the "deal"ership and I'm just noticing the noise now. Dealership checked my belts as part of their complimentary bajillion point check of the car and they checked out well... apparently.
What should I be checking? Compressor/alternator/oily belt/belt tension...?
2001 Maxima, automatic - I hear bird chirping noises when the A/C is on, chirping stops when the AC is off (chirping isn't coming from the blower motor).
Sounds like the noise is coming from the driver's side of the engine which makes me think it isn't the belts - but I did just have the oil changed at the "deal"ership and I'm just noticing the noise now. Dealership checked my belts as part of their complimentary bajillion point check of the car and they checked out well... apparently.
What should I be checking? Compressor/alternator/oily belt/belt tension...?
#6
Found a write up for the 4th gen:
http://www.vqpower.com/v3/content/no...pulley-bearing
not sure how similar it is to 5th gen, but seems straightforward.
http://www.vqpower.com/v3/content/no...pulley-bearing
not sure how similar it is to 5th gen, but seems straightforward.
#9
Thanks Korn - I gave it another listen today and I think you are right about the bearing going bad.
Any idea what bearing size I need? I see two sizes that 'fit' a 2001 max on autozone - "early production" and "late production" for the CVW618 compressor. I was hoping I wouldn't have to go through the hassle of taking out the bearing to measure it before ordering a replacement.
Any idea what bearing size I need? I see two sizes that 'fit' a 2001 max on autozone - "early production" and "late production" for the CVW618 compressor. I was hoping I wouldn't have to go through the hassle of taking out the bearing to measure it before ordering a replacement.
#10
Thanks Korn - I gave it another listen today and I think you are right about the bearing going bad.
Any idea what bearing size I need? I see two sizes that 'fit' a 2001 max on autozone - "early production" and "late production" for the CVW618 compressor. I was hoping I wouldn't have to go through the hassle of taking out the bearing to measure it before ordering a replacement.
Any idea what bearing size I need? I see two sizes that 'fit' a 2001 max on autozone - "early production" and "late production" for the CVW618 compressor. I was hoping I wouldn't have to go through the hassle of taking out the bearing to measure it before ordering a replacement.
#11
Looking at this again... I think I may have been prying on the wrong thing as I was trying to remove all 3 'discs' and after researching the part again, I think the bottom discs inside the pulley are the friction material that the clutch engages with. I probably would have figured this out if I had some better lighting when I was investigating and spinning the clutch.
Maybe I should just replace the entire compressor... but I don't feel like giving up on it just yet
Last edited by AaronL; 12-13-2016 at 01:26 AM.
#12
I found this (clutch, pulley and coil):
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/auto...989565302.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/auto...989565302.html
#13
So I managed to get the clutch off with some penetrating fluid and "wiggling" the clutch off. I got the circlip off after an hour or so of fighting with it - who invented circlips and why didn't their parents love them more?
I had a shop press out the bearing (I wasn't able to beat it out with a hammer, even after grinding out the peens) - ended up costing me $50! (nothing is reasonably priced in Vancouver). For the total cost I would have been better off just ordering a whole new clutch assembly- live and learn I guess.
It seems better but I am still hearing some noise in the belt area... might be the idler pulley which appears to be wobbling a bit.
I had a shop press out the bearing (I wasn't able to beat it out with a hammer, even after grinding out the peens) - ended up costing me $50! (nothing is reasonably priced in Vancouver). For the total cost I would have been better off just ordering a whole new clutch assembly- live and learn I guess.
It seems better but I am still hearing some noise in the belt area... might be the idler pulley which appears to be wobbling a bit.
#14
So I managed to get the clutch off with some penetrating fluid and "wiggling" the clutch off. I got the circlip off after an hour or so of fighting with it - who invented circlips and why didn't their parents love them more?
I had a shop press out the bearing (I wasn't able to beat it out with a hammer, even after grinding out the peens) - ended up costing me $50! (nothing is reasonably priced in Vancouver). For the total cost I would have been better off just ordering a whole new clutch assembly- live and learn I guess.
It seems better but I am still hearing some noise in the belt area... might be the idler pulley which appears to be wobbling a bit.
I had a shop press out the bearing (I wasn't able to beat it out with a hammer, even after grinding out the peens) - ended up costing me $50! (nothing is reasonably priced in Vancouver). For the total cost I would have been better off just ordering a whole new clutch assembly- live and learn I guess.
It seems better but I am still hearing some noise in the belt area... might be the idler pulley which appears to be wobbling a bit.
If you remove the idler I'm sure the bearings will be dry and you can make it wobble.
Last edited by Child_uv_KoRn; 12-21-2016 at 06:32 PM.
#15
If I can do it - anyone can. Provided they are either stubborn enough (or mechanically adept).
Unfortunately after driving the car a bit there is definitely still a chirp coming from the belt area with the AC on, stops when the AC is off. Haven't determined if it comes/goes with engine speed yet but I'm guess it happens at lower RPMs which is why I only heard it after driving the car long enough to warm it up and the idle to lower.
I'll check my belt tension again then I guess I'm pulling the belt and checking the pulleys.
Unfortunately after driving the car a bit there is definitely still a chirp coming from the belt area with the AC on, stops when the AC is off. Haven't determined if it comes/goes with engine speed yet but I'm guess it happens at lower RPMs which is why I only heard it after driving the car long enough to warm it up and the idle to lower.
I'll check my belt tension again then I guess I'm pulling the belt and checking the pulleys.
#16
If I can do it - anyone can. Provided they are either stubborn enough (or mechanically adept).
Unfortunately after driving the car a bit there is definitely still a chirp coming from the belt area with the AC on, stops when the AC is off. Haven't determined if it comes/goes with engine speed yet but I'm guess it happens at lower RPMs which is why I only heard it after driving the car long enough to warm it up and the idle to lower.
I'll check my belt tension again then I guess I'm pulling the belt and checking the pulleys.
Unfortunately after driving the car a bit there is definitely still a chirp coming from the belt area with the AC on, stops when the AC is off. Haven't determined if it comes/goes with engine speed yet but I'm guess it happens at lower RPMs which is why I only heard it after driving the car long enough to warm it up and the idle to lower.
I'll check my belt tension again then I guess I'm pulling the belt and checking the pulleys.
#17
Hmmm. I'm 4 out of 6 (for sure by 150k miles) on that bearing failing. Idlers were replaced. I wouldn't think that it could make any noise just from spinning another accessory. I guess it was unnecessary, but you don't want to hear the racket they make when they go. It turns into constant screeching.
#18
Good, I was feeling a bit guilty
#19
I pulled the idler pulley and it still spins smoothly. It was pain to put back as the bolt that it sits on isn't fixed in place so placing the pulley on it would push the bolt back so there wasn't enough thread to put the washer/shield and nut on. My "pro-tip" was to just put the nut on without the washer/shield, tighten it down to pull the bolt forward, wedge something behind the pulley assembly from above then remove the nut and add the washer/shield back and tighten down.
So it's either the crank pulley or the alternator bearing. When the noise first started up my wife said she thought it was the alternator and somehow she's pretty accurate with her diagnoses- maybe I should have listened to her in the first place.
So it's either the crank pulley or the alternator bearing. When the noise first started up my wife said she thought it was the alternator and somehow she's pretty accurate with her diagnoses- maybe I should have listened to her in the first place.