I'm gonna run my stock shox with my upcoming Maxspeed springs until they pop this summer, and then just get whatever shox.com has for sale. My recommendation would be to NOT BUY KYB AGX's if you have to pay over $100 when they'll be available in a few months for less $$$.

I didn't pay $3,000 for a PS2 when they came out, and I'm DEFINITELY not going to pay $8,000 for a Segway HT (even though I worship the idea)......PATIENCE, MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS!!!

 

Here's what I got from KYB...I posted this in August sometime:

Chuck;

Any word on the AGX struts being available for the 2000-2001 Nissan Maxima?
A couple have resellers have mentioned that they may be coming this fall.
If so, will they be a bolt on application, or will they require
modification to fit properly? Also, can they be used with stock springs,
or will they require the vehicle to be lowered and a higher performance
spring installed?

Thanks for your help.

Mike

KYB will not have the 2000~2001 Maxima AGX products available until the 2002
catalog; next year.

Regards,

Chuck Gonwa
KYB America LLC
**************************************

I am pretty sure that they will be coming factory direct, without modifications.

 

I agree, and I posted what will be shox.com prices when they are ready to go. $409 for the AGX on the 5th gen, under manufacturer warranty, unmodified, etc., etc.

 

Where did you see that or who did you speak to? I didn't see that on there site.

 

Call or email them.

 

Will do. Thanks.

 

thank god......I could afford to wait until they become reasonably priced. $600 for a modified version of the KYB's is a f*cking RIPOFF
if ya ask me.

So are we boycotting Cattman or what?!

 

Oh yeah, and you can submit a "request for quote" at http://www.shox.com and they will reply somewhat quickly (approx. 24 hours) with a price and details.

Just send them a request for pricing on struts for a 2000-2002 Maxima and you'll get a list of prices.

 

Whats the difference between KYB GR-2 & KYB AGX???

 

K Pazzo 6,

The main difference is the AGX is adjustable, where the GR2 is not

http://www.kyb.com/shocks2.html


dc

 

Sounds like a GREAT idea! Come on guys, let's get this together!

 

Thanks........

 

 

This is the response I got from KYB on the AGX'S being manufactured for the 5THGEN MAXIMA in the summer of 2002. Jorge,

There is no truth to this. We are still studying the application.

Chuck Gonwa
KYB America LLC
Product Manager
Phone: (630) 620-5555
Fax: (630) 620-8133
E-Mail : chuck@kyb.com

 

Wow, thanks man. What do you know?

 

YEAH I just wish they would hurry up. It would only benefit them(financially) and us,cuz we would be HAPPY AS HELL!

 

ok here's the deal, your stock boots WILL FIT, and you can use your stock mounts, all you need it access to a bench grinder and you grind 1.5cm off of the stock mounts middle piece, very easy to do. then all you have to do it buy the modded ones and your good to go. ALSO april 2002 tokicko illuminas adjustables for 5th gens are coming out per their own site.

-steve

what to do, wait or get the AGX's

 

Yes, to be clear, the 5th gen AGX struts are ready, on the shelf, shipping as I write. It has taken a long time, but the're ready now. Lots more will be available Monday or Tuesday. I think adding the Progress springs as a discounted option is a good idea, happy to do that. Package price for the AGXs + Progress Sport springs is $595.

I'll also emphasize that for the moderately mechanically inclined, making the 5th gen stock mounts fit is just a matter of trimming the bottom far enough to allow an adequate amount of threads to stick out the top for fastening the top nut. I'd prefer if if the damned mounts weren't necessary, there's no profit in them and they make if more expensive to put on a set of good struts.

Perhaps $450 seems like a lot, but as I mentioned in an email that seems to have been eliminated since this morning (check the same one out under the parts for sale forum), the cost difference between the basic struts and the modified ones is solely the cost I pay for modification. There's fabrication of parts and considerable labor involved. There's no added profit. Hence, nothing to cut. The only component that can be discounted is the base price of the strut.

My regular price for the basic struts is $380 and, although I occaisionally put them on sale, that's a reasonable price. Its $20 below Tire Rack. As someone will point out, there are others selling them for less, but I have this bizarre perspective that selling parts for a $5 markup is a waste of time and, in the long run, neither good for the merchant or the customer. Businesses that run on a profit margin under 5% are rarely involved with the product development game (and if I'm not developing or improving parts, I'm not having fun).

Brian C. Catts
Cattman Performance

 

As it is said, it is done...

Progress Springs + 5th gen AGXs = $595

Brian C. Catts
Cattman Performance

 

They work fine with stock springs. And they are shipping as we speak.

Brian C. Catts
Cattman Performance

 

Noting that there are no Koni's made for the 2000+ Maximas, they usually go for about $475 (and require you to destroy your stock struts to install them), so the AGXs are cheaper. And, in my experience, the AGXs certainly perform better.

Brian C. Catts
Cattman Performance

 

Very sorry about being slow to reply. the address you've been using is the appropriate one. Just coming out of an 18/7 project on the University side of my life. Haven't had a single day off since early December, including the holidays. That's easing and I'm getting caught up with Cattman again. Very sorry about being hard to reach, just had no choice for a while. If I could just figure out how to stop wasting 4 hours a day on sleep, I know I could be much more productive. ;-)

Brian C. Catts
Cattman Performance

 

C'mon now. You don't have the facts necessary to support your position.

Why do people assume that because something costs more than they want to spend, it means someone is making an outrageous profit? Despite the fact that I've made a considerable up front investment to make this happen, I don't make ten cents more profit on a set of AGX gen5-adapted struts than I do on the gen4s. True, my gen4s are $380 instead of $350, but if you call wanting to make more than $10 on a $400 part a rip-off, then you need to learn more about capitalism. My business model is based on developing and improving parts -- which I've done here -- and you cannot support that activity unless there is some kind of profit involved.

I'm flexible on price when I can be, but I can't sell these at a loss just to be a good guy. As I've already posted, I can roll some springs into the deal and create some savings. The KYBs as discussed, for $450, plus the Progress Sport springs, for a package price of $595.

Brian C. Catts
Cattman Performance

 

Wow, you guys really worked yourselves into a snit. How does this $600 figure come into play? The price is $450, people! If you buy struts from Tire Rack, Shox, or whatever, they are going to charge you separately for shipping, dust boots and mounts, so why are you rolling those into my price?

My price for the gen4 AGXs is already $20 less than Tire Rack and $29 less than Shox, and the price for the gen5s is that price plus what I pay to modifiy them. How can anyone just assume that I am ripping anyone off, or cheating them out of their "hard-earned money"? My Cattman workweek is on top of my 50-60 hour University position, and I'll guarantee that no one

If you just want to call me a liar, then go ahead, but I am not that kind of person and I don't run my business that way. I'm more open about my business practices than anyone I've seen; if I didn't want you to know the truth, I just wouldn't say it.

How on earth can you morally justify calling for a boycott under these circumstances? Because I'm not selling a part for an amount that you -- without any knowledge about the cost factors -- think I should, you feel it appropriate to persuade people not to do business with Cattman Performance? I just don't get it.

Brian C. Catts
Cattman Performance

 

Listen to this guy, its absolutely the way to go. Neither mounts or dustboots are absolutely necessary, so lets get away from this $600/set b*llsh*t.

Brian C. Catts
Cattman Performance

 

Those Illuminas are for the 4thgen. I e-mailed them and also called them and spoke to two different people who both stated the same.

 

Yeah i got mine this week. They cost $615, which includes all the mounts, booths and shipping. I'm happy with them and can't wait to have them install on my Eibachs...they also included the cattman window stickers, which looks hot

 

OK Brian,

So a couple questions....

1) if I buy your AGX's with the springs (the setup you are offering), what do I need to complete the upgrade? I want as little work as possible, I want to go to a shop and say put this on and have it done, can I do this with what you are offering? or do I need to shave something down still?

2) how do the Springs you offer compair to H&R Springs? I was thinking about H&R, in your honest op., how do they compare?

Thanks

 

thanks brian, trying to help out another fellow developer for maxima. www.frankencar.com is my baby, on top of my 50-60 hours i work also so i feel your pain. i'm 99% sure i want these, how soon can i order them for that price and what's the feedback on progress springs, i was looking h/r's also.

-steve

 

answer one: the issue is getting the front ones attached at the top. You can either acquire a pair of stock Nissan mounts (they call them vibration isolators, or something odd like that) from the 95-99 series (I have them but am running low, try a parts dept.) or you can trim the bottoms of the stock ones you have so that enough of the threaded end sticks out at the top to get a nut on.

answer two: I've been asked that, but I can't answer it because I haven't ridden in a car with both, recently. The feedback I'm getting from customers is that they have a good comfortable ride if used with a good strut, but are sort of bouncy with a stock strut; I suspect this is true of any lowering spring, stock struts aren't adequate to damp them.

Brian C. Catts
Cattman Performance

 

so is that 595 an oingoing deal now, like i can order them monday??

-steve

 

Well, its good for the next week or two, as long as I have both struts and springs, lets say.

If we run it it will just be for hours, ther are more coming later in the day or Tuesday.

Brian C. Catts
Cattman Performance

 

umm ok. so i can call monday and order them and they will ship that week, that's fine. i want them soon but not in a huge hurry. how much of a drop is it with those springs, 1.7 in the front and 1.4 in the rear?????????/

 

The progress springs drop the front 1.7 and the back 1.5

 

Hey All,

submitted a query as to when (if ever) the 5th Gen AGX's would arrive
this is the reply I just got (3/12/02)

David,

The AGX's for the 2000~2002 Maxima will be available with the 2003 catalog
next year.

Chuck Gonwa
KYB America LLC
Product Manager
Phone: (630) 620-5555
Fax: (630) 620-8133
E-Mail : chuck@kyb.com

 

JUST GREAT!

 

ok i think i'm just gonna order them before i change my mind, i just don';t want a bone jarring ride like on my 95 with eibachs. any feedback as to ride quality or progress springs.

-steve

 

Hey Steve, I have Progress springs waiting to go on. I might use them with stock struts, unless Tokico adjustables actually come out soon.

 

i'm just gonna get the agx's/progress from cattman for 600. you don't need the mounts or the boots. i'm not waiting around forever.

 

hey steve whats going on with that bracket that was missing from the intake?