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Old 02-14-2002, 06:19 AM
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Anyone w/ a 2k2 auto race a Cadillac?

I realize that sounds kind of dumb but there's a guy at my work who just bought a 2k2 Cadillac ETC(300hp) and is ULTRA competitive and wants to race. He wants to race for $1k. I told him no, I would just run for fun. I believe this Caddy is a low 15sec car which would've probably been a good run for my 99SE 5spd with an intake. I would think my auto (stock at this point) should run mid to high 14s'. Any input?
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Is his a manual? I know they have manual trannys in those now.
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Old 02-14-2002, 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by raynist
Is his a manual? I know they have manual trannys in those now.
No, his is an auto.
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Old 02-14-2002, 07:19 AM
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take him, feed him his lunch and then send him my way. I want some thousand dollar action. That would about finish up my mods
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They come with CVT's. Not sure about the Manual. CVT's, in my opinion, are better than normal auto tranny's as it's always at the optimal "gear" and right smack in the powerband.

Given the cars weight he roughly has 12.88lbs./hp to carry. Pretty close (if not matching) the 2k2 Maxima's Power/weight ratio territory.

It's also a FWD so he may or may not have good traction from a stop so if you're good with launches you may take him out up to a certain speed. After that it's all about torque, something he has gobs off.

All in all it's a *very* close race IMHO.
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I just talked with this guy. He "apparently" blew the doors off a Mitsu 3000GT VR4 the other day. My response was "did the guy know you were racing"? We are at approximately 4700' elevation, a boosted car like a VR4 would have a HUGE advantage over a normally aspirated Caddy. I believe a VR4 runs roughly 14.0 at sea level so now it's even more obvious this guy needs to put down the crack pipe.
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Old 02-14-2002, 08:26 AM
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What model is that?? I don't see it on their site? Is it a car or suv? I see a CTS but it only has 220hp??

I think that guy is full of shiznit!!

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CVT's?!? Caddy ain't got no stinkin' CVT!

Ummm...the 2k2 ETC (Eldo Touring Coupe) comes standard with the Northstar and the GM 4L60 electronic 4 speed automatic. No CVT here! The 4.6L has 300hp, but it's got to rev pretty high to get the power.

Do it at a track with timing lights, so he doesn't get the jump on you, then take his $1,000 and get some NOS, so you can fool ALL of the people ALL of the time!
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Old 02-14-2002, 08:30 AM
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Oh, OK it is an eldorado. I drove one of those before and they are dogs off the line!!
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Old 02-14-2002, 08:36 AM
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Re: CVT's?!? Caddy ain't got no stinkin' CVT!

Sorry 'bout that. Was basing it on the Cars.com description.

Anyway, if Cadillac's own posted numbers are correct it does 0-60 in 6.9

http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/...orado/spec.jsp

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Ummm...the 2k2 ETC (Eldo Touring Coupe) comes standard with the Northstar and the GM 4L60 electronic 4 speed automatic. No CVT here! The 4.6L has 300hp, but it's got to rev pretty high to get the power.

Do it at a track with timing lights, so he doesn't get the jump on you, then take his $1,000 and get some NOS, so you can fool ALL of the people ALL of the time!
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I told him I'd run him at the track. Not worth the risk on the street.
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Old 02-14-2002, 12:08 PM
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i think it is worth racing him....but don't yell at me if u lose 1k
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Old 02-14-2002, 03:40 PM
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you can take him....your 2k2 max will do easily below 6.9
stock you can get around 6.5 and even below with an awsome launch

go at it man....make an easy 1k
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I drove one of those things and the torque down low is awesome with that throatty growl sound. I still say you can take him with a slight edge if you get a good launch other wise be careful.
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Old 02-15-2002, 04:26 PM
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just do it
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Old 02-15-2002, 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by 2M0A0X2
(Begin nike ad)just do it (end nike ad)
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Old 02-15-2002, 09:48 PM
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torque brake off the line, that thing has already won me two races in the last three days!!
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Old 02-15-2002, 10:56 PM
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Be Careful!!!

I owned a 96 STS (same car but 4dr) and it was pretty quick. I have a 2K1 auto and I'd have to say the Caddy was quite a bit quicker. The 2K2 Max should be close but I still don't think it will keep up after 80mph or so. Remember "There's no substitute for cubic inches"
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My brother has a 98' STS and I raced him a few times when I had my 2K1 5-speed and we were extremely close. Depending on my launch on who beat who up to roughly 80-90 mph. After that he would very slowly pull ahead of me.
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Old 02-16-2002, 04:59 AM
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Point taken. The Caddy is no slug. I do believe the 2k2 Max is noticeablely faster than the 2k1. This 2k2 is definitely quicker than my 99 5spd was. Time will tell...
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