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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 07:58 AM
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Run in with an M5...

On my way to jury duty yesterday, I saw a Bimmer 5 series approaching me at a pretty fast rate. He blew by me going about 90+ and I quickly noticed the M5 badge and the 4 tips. After seeing those, I was like he might want to run. Hehehehe

I quickly caught up to him and stay about 5 car lengths back, hoping he would gun it when he was wide open. We drove together, changing positions, for about 15 miles or so but he never unleashed the 400 hp beast.

I wonder how I would've done against it... probably would have lost, but by how much? Since the 284 hp & 234 ft-lbs torque dyno, I have added an oil cooler, A'pexi AFC, and a form of rice juice

Too bad he didn't bite.
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i would love to see that man....how much do you have at crank....350hp?
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so you said you had jury duty? how was that? did you have fun?
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Originally posted by SprintMax
so you said you had jury duty? how was that? did you have fun?
It sucked, but good thing they settled out of court (domestic violence case).


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i would love to see that man....how much do you have at crank....350hp?
About 380 hp. I'm lighter, but he has more torque and better gearing.
Old Feb 22, 2002 | 08:03 AM
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Re: Run in with an M5...

Originally posted by Y2KevSE
On my way to jury duty yesterday, I saw a Bimmer 5 series approaching me at a pretty fast rate. He blew by me going about 90+ and I quickly noticed the M5 badge and the 4 tips. After seeing those, I was like he might want to run. Hehehehe

I quickly caught up to him and stay about 5 car lengths back, hoping he would gun it when he was wide open. We drove together, changing positions, for about 15 miles or so but he never unleashed the 400 hp beast.

I wonder how I would've done against it... probably would have lost, but by how much? Since the 284 hp & 234 ft-lbs torque dyno, I have added an oil cooler, A'pexi AFC, and a form of rice juice

Too bad he didn't bite.
I think you'd ultimately lose but I would love to see the expression on that guy's face by having a "lowly" Maxima hang on his ***
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Re: Run in with an M5...

Originally posted by Y2KevSE
and a form of rice juice :naughty

Old Feb 22, 2002 | 08:08 AM
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I think you'd ultimately lose but I would love to see the expression on that guy's face by having a "lowly" Maxima hang on his ***
damn right man...he will be sooo suprised he will forget to shift gears from looking how a maxima(30k car) keep up with his 70k car and he has almost twice the Hp stockwise
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I think you would have stayed with him enough to make him **** his pants until you ran out of 3rd gear. Then you would be
Old Feb 22, 2002 | 08:13 AM
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Re: Re: Run in with an M5...

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He know it baby...... hehehe



You guys are right about me losing, but I would like to know by how much. Guess I'll find out sooner or later.

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Keving don't sell yourself short here..

ok with my rice boy math..

11 PSI should put you in low 13's...

with your sauce you should be depending on how much in 12's..

now his torque might play a factor.. but you are already lighter and you NOW have torque

so i think you might have been ither door to door.. or even beat him.. but hey.. this is rice boy math..

factors also .. if he can't drive worth **** .. i can beat him witha Stock Civic DX.. maybe that was a bit extreme but just don't assume you would be owned..
Originally posted by Y2KevSE


He know it baby...... hehehe



You guys are right about me losing, but I would like to know by how much. Guess I'll find out sooner or later.

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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 08:29 AM
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Re: Run in with an M5...

Originally posted by Y2KevSE
..I wonder how I would've done against it... probably would have lost, but by how much? Since the 284 hp & 234 ft-lbs torque dyno, I have added an oil cooler, A'pexi AFC, and a form of rice juice

Too bad he didn't bite.
Not sure.

A friend in a stock '98 GS400 and his friend in a '01 C5 6-speed(350hp?) ran a M5. The GS400 was spanked everytime off the line and pulled away from, but he was close enough to watch the action. He stated the C5 walked away from the M5 everytime without a chance in hell. Maybe it was the M5 driver couldn't drive, but he was the one to instigate the fight, I mean race.

I just wish I could have seen it.
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Rice boy math...

Let's see what I'll put down with my new "juice" this Sunday (NorCal Dyno day).


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Not sure.

A friend in a stock '98 GS400 and his friend in a '01 C5 6-speed(350hp?) ran a M5. The GS400 was spanked everytime off the line and pulled away from, but he was close enough to watch the action. He stated the C5 walked away from the M5 everytime without a chance in hell. Maybe it was the M5 driver couldn't drive, but he was the one to instigate the fight, I mean race.

I just wish I could have seen it.
I would've payed to see that battle.
Old Feb 22, 2002 | 08:37 AM
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5 car lentghs back? What's this? The subtle approach? j/k
If you want him to play make your headlights fill his rear view mirror next time, like he can read the name nissan on your grille, kapisch?

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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
On my way to jury duty yesterday, I saw a Bimmer 5 series approaching me at a pretty fast rate. He blew by me going about 90+ and I quickly noticed the M5 badge and the 4 tips. After seeing those, I was like he might want to run. Hehehehe

I quickly caught up to him and stay about 5 car lengths back, hoping he would gun it when he was wide open. We drove together, changing positions, for about 15 miles or so but he never unleashed the 400 hp beast.

I wonder how I would've done against it... probably would have lost, but by how much? Since the 284 hp & 234 ft-lbs torque dyno, I have added an oil cooler, A'pexi AFC, and a form of rice juice

Too bad he didn't bite.
Old Feb 22, 2002 | 08:50 AM
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Tweak The TPS KEV...

Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Rice boy math...

Let's see what I'll put down with my new "juice" this Sunday (NorCal Dyno day).




I would've payed to see that battle.
Don't forget to try the TPS tweak!

Originally posted by Y2KevSE I would've payed to see that battle.
Me too. These two(C5 and GS400) go out to the illegal drags and just cruise around town together looking for prey.

It seems more like the GS400 is spectating though.

Rice JUICE???
Old Feb 22, 2002 | 08:57 AM
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Re: Tweak The TPS KEV...

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5 car lentghs back? What's this? The subtle approach? j/k
If you want him to play make your headlights fill his rear view mirror next time, like he can read the name nissan on your grille, kapisch?

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Yeah yeah... I know I should've been all up on his bumper, but I would've looked like a retard tailgating an M5 when the lane next to me is wide open.


Originally posted by IceY2K1


Don't forget to try the TPS tweak!


Me too. These two(C5 and GS400) go out to the illegal drags and just cruise around town together looking for prey.

It seems more like the GS400 is spectating though.:-)

Rice JUICE???
Sorry Alex, but we can't tune or tweak anything since this is a group deal dyno.

Some form of "juice"
Old Feb 22, 2002 | 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


About 380 hp. I'm lighter, but he has more torque and better gearing.
Ah, the cat is out of the bag (I never knew how much you had under the hood until now)!

How about baitin' the Honda/Acura ricers into racing you on the freeway?

I would love to see the look on their faces if they take the bait!!!
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Originally posted by vmax8


Ah, the cat is out of the bag (I never knew how much you had under the hood until now)!

How about baitin' the Honda/Acura ricers into racing you on the freeway?

I would love to see the look on their faces if they take the bait!!!
"Honda/Acura ricers" are NOT even worth wasting the fuel and wear-n-tear on, unless it's a S2000 maybe.

If I had Kev's ride, I'd be V8 Camaro/Firebird hunting. NOBODY takes a loss harder than they do.
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Drivers being equal... he would have smoked you...

... if there was any kind of curve involved at all. No matter what the mods done to the suspension of any generation Max (short of a race setup), there's no way it'll stay with an M5 on any course that involves maneuvering. By the way, that applies to all M5's. The '88 E28 M5, the E34 M5, and the current M5. You may have 1000rwhp, but that won't put you in the same league with an M5. It's all about balance. As nice as our 5th gen Max's are, balance in BMW terms is something they sorely lack. It's hard to describe...

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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 11:43 AM
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Re: Drivers being equal... he would have smoked you...

Originally posted by e28fixer
... if there was any kind of curve involved at all. No matter what the mods done to the suspension of any generation Max (short of a race setup), there's no way it'll stay with an M5 on any course that involves maneuvering. By the way, that applies to all M5's. The '88 E28 M5, the E34 M5, and the current M5. You may have 1000rwhp, but that won't put you in the same league with an M5. It's all about balance. As nice as our 5th gen Max's are, balance in BMW terms is something they sorely lack. It's hard to describe...

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All BMWs achieve near 50/50 weight distribution to have a very nimble and balanced feel.

For $40-$75K BMWs better have more acceleration, braking, hadling, etc.. than a $23-$30K Maxima. That was not the focus of this thread.
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Re: Drivers being equal... he would have smoked you...

Originally posted by e28fixer
... if there was any kind of curve involved at all. No matter what the mods done to the suspension of any generation Max (short of a race setup), there's no way it'll stay with an M5 on any course that involves maneuvering. By the way, that applies to all M5's. The '88 E28 M5, the E34 M5, and the current M5. You may have 1000rwhp, but that won't put you in the same league with an M5. It's all about balance. As nice as our 5th gen Max's are, balance in BMW terms is something they sorely lack. It's hard to describe...

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I agree on a curvy road the m5 would have got him, but on a straight highway run with Juice, Kev should be able to get past him that is with a "shot" in the arm

Now the question is how long can Kev's tranny hold up to this abuse, only time will tell

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Originally posted by IceY2K1


Not sure.

A friend in a stock '98 GS400 and his friend in a '01 C5 6-speed(350hp?) ran a M5. The GS400 was spanked everytime off the line and pulled away from, but he was close enough to watch the action. He stated the C5 walked away from the M5 everytime without a chance in hell. Maybe it was the M5 driver couldn't drive, but he was the one to instigate the fight, I mean race.

I just wish I could have seen it.
That owner of the M5 obviously didnt take advantage of the free schooling they off in South Carolina when you buy an M5. He needs to learn how to drive. My friend has 2001 C5 Auto with a gear and he raced my friends 2001 M coupe and the M coupe would pull 1/2 on the C5 everytime.
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For $40-$75K BMWs better have more acceleration, braking, hadling, etc.. than a $23-$30K Maxima. That was not the focus of this thread.
What is the focus of this thread?

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Originally posted by e28fixer


What is the focus of this thread?

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A flat out fast freeway run, not mountain road curves. Duhh.
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Re: ...

Originally posted by IceY2K1


A flat out fast freeway run, not mountain road curves. Duhh.

LOL!!
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Re: ...

Originally posted by IceY2K1


A flat out fast freeway run, not mountain road curves. Duhh.

Oh, duhh. Forgot to make sure NOT to look at the BIG picture. If we're going to focus on very specific issues and factors, why not just say the Max can carry just as many people for $45K less and leave it at that? That's something I can be proud of and brag about. Of course, that means we'll have to mention the Plymouth Breeze too. Oops, no, we can't do that. That would unfairly rank us with a lesser vehicle. We'll need to "massage" the comparison so we come out on top...

As much as I like my new Max, there's a reason why all other manufacturers (including Nissan) compare the sporting capabilities of their sport sedans to BMW's. BMW's are better - period. If it weren't for the ridiculous cost of ownership, that's what I'd be driving today. Maxima's are great cars, but they're wannabe's (want to be's) - especially when compared to M5's. That's harsh, but it's the reality of the situation.

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Re: Run in with an M5...

Originally posted by Y2KevSE
...and a form of rice juice
You put sakein your car?
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When you say wanna be, it implies that the Maxima wants to be an M5. Probably not. What it does want is to be able to performs as well as an M5 but still cost a reasonable amount to buy and maintain, plus have genuine and generous seating for 5. The Maxima wants the performance of a ~$70K, 400 hp RWD sedan, PLUS the practicality of a ~28K, 255hp FWD roomy and practical sedan.

The main reason we compare is because we pay attention only to performance.

I'm sure Nissan could make the Max RWD, less roomy, a VQ derived V-8,
etc, but they try to do more.

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Originally posted by e28fixer



Oh, duhh. Forgot to make sure NOT to look at the BIG picture. If we're going to focus on very specific issues and factors, why not just say the Max can carry just as many people for $45K less and leave it at that? That's something I can be proud of and brag about. Of course, that means we'll have to mention the Plymouth Breeze too. Oops, no, we can't do that. That would unfairly rank us with a lesser vehicle. We'll need to "massage" the comparison so we come out on top...

As much as I like my new Max, there's a reason why all other manufacturers (including Nissan) compare the sporting capabilities of their sport sedans to BMW's. BMW's are better - period. If it weren't for the ridiculous cost of ownership, that's what I'd be driving today. Maxima's are great cars, but they're wannabe's (want to be's) - especially when compared to M5's. That's harsh, but it's the reality of the situation.

Scott
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m5 yummy Ican't wait to get my car back, it should stick with an m5 easy, maybe even over take it.
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Re: Re: ...

Originally posted by e28fixer





As much as I like my new Max, there's a reason why all other manufacturers (including Nissan) compare the sporting capabilities of their sport sedans to BMW's. BMW's are better - period. If it weren't for the ridiculous cost of ownership, that's what I'd be driving today. Maxima's are great cars, but they're wannabe's (want to be's) - especially when compared to M5's. That's harsh, but it's the reality of the situation.

Scott
Saying Kev had a chance in a highway race doesn't mean we think the max is a better car.

LS1 + 100 shot = bye bye to almost anything on the highway short of hyperexotics and sport bikes.

Now would I rather have a max or an LS1. Considering I used my money to buy the max I'd rather have that. It's not about what car is better it's about Kev being able to surprise some M5 owner and getting props for it. No oneis harming the reputation of your precious M5. Hell I'd love to have an M5.

But when it comes down to it. Nothing is a replacement for a nice 71' Hemi Cuda Convertible. (check it out on NADA collector cars. 400,000 for numbers matching concours restoration). Breath, Relax, Have Fun.
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Originally posted by e28fixer



Oh, duhh. Forgot to make sure NOT to look at the BIG picture. If we're going to focus on very specific issues and factors, why not just say the Max can carry just as many people for $45K less and leave it at that? That's something I can be proud of and brag about. Of course, that means we'll have to mention the Plymouth Breeze too. Oops, no, we can't do that. That would unfairly rank us with a lesser vehicle. We'll need to "massage" the comparison so we come out on top...

As much as I like my new Max, there's a reason why all other manufacturers (including Nissan) compare the sporting capabilities of their sport sedans to BMW's. BMW's are better - period. If it weren't for the ridiculous cost of ownership, that's what I'd be driving today. Maxima's are great cars, but they're wannabe's (want to be's) - especially when compared to M5's. That's harsh, but it's the reality of the situation.

Scott
No argument here! BMWs are AWESOME cars that ALL car manufacturers use as a benchmark.

I am a BMW drooler myself . It is the car of my dreams and hopefully when I'm about 40, I can buy one.

I just didn't think your comment about how the BMW would own Kev in the corners was relevant in this particular thread, since we were not talking about his coilovers, suspension mods, or 300Z brakes. Apparently to you it was. Just not to me.
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Originally posted by e28fixer



Oh, duhh. Forgot to make sure NOT to look at the BIG picture. If we're going to focus on very specific issues and factors, why not just say the Max can carry just as many people for $45K less and leave it at that? That's something I can be proud of and brag about. Of course, that means we'll have to mention the Plymouth Breeze too. Oops, no, we can't do that. That would unfairly rank us with a lesser vehicle. We'll need to "massage" the comparison so we come out on top...

As much as I like my new Max, there's a reason why all other manufacturers (including Nissan) compare the sporting capabilities of their sport sedans to BMW's. BMW's are better - period. If it weren't for the ridiculous cost of ownership, that's what I'd be driving today. Maxima's are great cars, but they're wannabe's (want to be's) - especially when compared to M5's. That's harsh, but it's the reality of the situation.

Scott
Man you need to learn some stuff. First a Maxima is no way a Bimmer want to be. It is front wheel drive and a lot less money. Number two, dont come over here thinking you are the sh*t bragging about driving a E28. If you wanna look at a BMW wannabe take a look at the IS300 and GS. I have a 330i sport and it is a great car, but is it 10k better than a Maxima?
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Re: Re: Tweak The TPS KEV...

Originally posted by Y2KevSE


Some form of "juice"
Oooh oooh *raising hand* I know what rice juice you are talking about... heheheheh =D
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Well, this one got stupid really fast.
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well this concludes that test.. no matter if a BMW owner owns a maxima and a BMW .. he is still a cocky SOB.. even if he owns an old POS.. to me.. a BMW ain't a BMW no more after its 6 years old.. but thats just me..

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i only like the M and X class of the bmw, all the other are just tons of money to waste ....there is nothing like a coupe M3 SMGII....yum
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