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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 08:10 PM
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PRCAI vs. Cone filters(stillen hi flow/pop charger)

PRCAI installation time is 3hrs for beginners. Stillen hi flow intake 25min. Horse power gains on PRCAI 10hp to be exact. Stillen hi flow 6hp to be exact. These are two great modifications if you want sound as well as performance. Between the two the only difference is the price. $225 shipped from custommaxima.com with the new monster flow air filter, or $175 for the Stillen Intake. I wouldnt recommend the PRCAI if you dont have any mechanical skills, because it is time consuming with a lot of nuts and bolts to remove. However I did my installation on the new monster flow intake from PRCAI and it was a perfect fit. Did not rub the fenderwell at all. So for beginners if your looking for a great modification that will not take a bit out of your wallet, I suggest Stillen hi flow intake or Place Racing Cold Air Intake. These are two great choices....
Old Mar 3, 2002 | 08:21 PM
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Re: PRCAI vs. Cone filters(stillen hi flow/pop charger)

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PRCAI installation time is 3hrs for beginners. Stillen hi flow intake 25min. Horse power gains on PRCAI 10hp to be exact. Stillen hi flow 6hp to be exact. These are two great modifications if you want sound as well as performance. Between the two the only difference is the price. $225 shipped from custommaxima.com with the new monster flow air filter, or $175 for the Stillen Intake. I wouldnt recommend the PRCAI if you dont have any mechanical skills, because it is time consuming with a lot of nuts and bolts to remove. However I did my installation on the new monster flow intake from PRCAI and it was a perfect fit. Did not rub the fenderwell at all. So for beginners if your looking for a great modification that will not take a bit out of your wallet, I suggest Stillen hi flow intake or Place Racing Cold Air Intake. These are two great choices....
Where exactly did you get your "exact" hp numbers?
Old Mar 3, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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Any good reason for this "public service anouncement" ?
In addition you've listed only two intakes with some sense of finality. There are at least three more (Berk, Franken, JWT) "off the shelf" intakes which are relatively easy to install.
Close to $200 is a bite out of the wallet and is not a "budget" mod. Might as well add another $30 - $80 and get a Y pipe... whole lot more effective and you can do an OSCAI on your own...

Just my, newbie, opinion,
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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 09:18 PM
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Re: PRCAI vs. Cone filters(stillen hi flow/pop charger)

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PRCAI installation time is 3hrs for beginners. Stillen hi flow intake 25min. Horse power gains on PRCAI 10hp to be exact. Stillen hi flow 6hp to be exact. These are two great modifications if you want sound as well as performance. Between the two the only difference is the price. $225 shipped from custommaxima.com with the new monster flow air filter, or $175 for the Stillen Intake. I wouldnt recommend the PRCAI if you dont have any mechanical skills, because it is time consuming with a lot of nuts and bolts to remove. However I did my installation on the new monster flow intake from PRCAI and it was a perfect fit. Did not rub the fenderwell at all. So for beginners if your looking for a great modification that will not take a bit out of your wallet, I suggest Stillen hi flow intake or Place Racing Cold Air Intake. These are two great choices....
Where is the dyno chart?
Old Mar 4, 2002 | 12:25 AM
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Re: PRCAI vs. Cone filters(stillen hi flow/pop charger)

Originally posted by Snoop
PRCAI installation time is 3hrs for beginners. Stillen hi flow intake 25min. Horse power gains on PRCAI 10hp to be exact. Stillen hi flow 6hp to be exact. These are two great modifications if you want sound as well as performance. Between the two the only difference is the price. $225 shipped from custommaxima.com with the new monster flow air filter, or $175 for the Stillen Intake. I wouldnt recommend the PRCAI if you dont have any mechanical skills, because it is time consuming with a lot of nuts and bolts to remove. However I did my installation on the new monster flow intake from PRCAI and it was a perfect fit. Did not rub the fenderwell at all. So for beginners if your looking for a great modification that will not take a bit out of your wallet, I suggest Stillen hi flow intake or Place Racing Cold Air Intake. These are two great choices....
man...ur really sure about that 'exact' hp gains from each intake?
u never know until u put it up on a dyno..and for starters...the PRCAI does not give u 'exact' 10hp...

it's been 'dyno-tested' that the PRCAI tops out earlier than the Stillen intake(go to www.maximadriver.com and read the article regarding this dyno run). but what PRCAI is better over the Stillen intake is that the PRCAI produced slightly better low-end torque than the Stillen intake..but in the top end, Stillen slightly edged out the PRCAI..it's just a matter of preference...is it really worth drilling a hole in ur fender? or would u rather have a simple cone filter?
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Re: Re: PRCAI vs. Cone filters(stillen hi flow/pop charger)

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man...ur really sure about that 'exact' hp gains from each intake?
u never know until u put it up on a dyno..and for starters...the PRCAI does not give u 'exact' 10hp...

it's been 'dyno-tested' that the PRCAI tops out earlier than the Stillen intake(go to www.maximadriver.com and read the article regarding this dyno run). but what PRCAI is better over the Stillen intake is that the PRCAI produced slightly better low-end torque than the Stillen intake..but in the top end, Stillen slightly edged out the PRCAI..it's just a matter of preference...is it really worth drilling a hole in ur fender? or would u rather have a simple cone filter?
I concur.... indubidubly!!!
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seeing as this is a thread comparing intakes for the maxima i feel that i should be able to post my views. for 140 you can get a frankencar intake which people have said sounds and feels better then a stillen and get the same 10hp gain he says you get from a CAI along with easier installation, no whole, and you save almost 100 bucks. and about the CAI to pop effectivness, i got this email last week. very smart guy, everyone on the board should read it.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....4&goto=newpost

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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 08:56 AM
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just my opinion, but i don't think you'll feel a big difference, no matter what intake you get. the sound is a big difference though.

i had a place racing CAI in, and i didn't feel much, i also had a kind of pop in ( just the upper place racing pipe and the cone on the end of the MAF part) and with that i also didn't feel a real gain over stock.

so now i'm back to stock and just going to go with the ooglie CAI, cause i don't think it's worth the couple hundred or so for the manufactured intakes out there.

and the hole in the damn fender isn't a big deal. you can't even see it when everything is back to stock. and the hole isn't really in the fender, it's under the battery. when i was a newbie and people say a hole in the fender i started to think the hole was visible on the outside, it's not.

just my experiences....
Old Mar 4, 2002 | 12:39 PM
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Re: PRCAI vs. Cone filters(stillen hi flow/pop charger)

Originally posted by Snoop
PRCAI installation time is 3hrs for beginners....
newbie,

but seriously people want proof to HP gains and it is impossible to find EXACT HP numbers because it will vary from car to car.

Dyno numbers or 1/4 mile times whould have been nice.
Old Mar 4, 2002 | 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by victor
just my opinion, but i don't think you'll feel a big difference, no matter what intake you get. the sound is a big difference though.

i had a place racing CAI in, and i didn't feel much, i also had a kind of pop in ( just the upper place racing pipe and the cone on the end of the MAF part) and with that i also didn't feel a real gain over stock.

so now i'm back to stock and just going to go with the ooglie CAI, cause i don't think it's worth the couple hundred or so for the manufactured intakes out there.

and the hole in the damn fender isn't a big deal. you can't even see it when everything is back to stock. and the hole isn't really in the fender, it's under the battery. when i was a newbie and people say a hole in the fender i started to think the hole was visible on the outside, it's not.

just my experiences....

well, the aftermarket intake systems do allow engine to breathe better so even tho u may not feel anything, there are 'some' gains in the top end(not low end). and personally, i don't think ooglie CAI works..granted it's very cheap mod for ur car, but u can make ur own intake for around $60 if u are somewhat mechanically inclined(i'm not joking, all u need is a universal K&N cone filter and a Nissan adapter piece).

the hole is definitely covered by the battery...but what would the dealership say about it tho? at least with other mods, u can always bring it back to stock...
Old Mar 4, 2002 | 02:32 PM
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Re: Re: PRCAI vs. Cone filters(stillen hi flow/pop charger)

Originally posted by irvine78


man...ur really sure about that 'exact' hp gains from each intake?
u never know until u put it up on a dyno..and for starters...the PRCAI does not give u 'exact' 10hp...

it's been 'dyno-tested' that the PRCAI tops out earlier than the Stillen intake(go to www.maximadriver.com and read the article regarding this dyno run). but what PRCAI is better over the Stillen intake is that the PRCAI produced slightly better low-end torque than the Stillen intake..but in the top end, Stillen slightly edged out the PRCAI..it's just a matter of preference...is it really worth drilling a hole in ur fender? or would u rather have a simple cone filter?
If I recall correctly, that comparison was done on 4th gens. Given the completely different "set of lungs" on the 5th gen, the results may be different.
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Re: PRCAI vs. Cone filters(stillen hi flow/pop charger)

Originally posted by Snoop
PRCAI installation time is 3hrs for beginners. Stillen hi flow intake 25min. Horse power gains on PRCAI 10hp to be exact. Stillen hi flow 6hp to be exact. These are two great modifications if you want sound as well as performance. Between the two the only difference is the price. $225 shipped from custommaxima.com with the new monster flow air filter, or $175 for the Stillen Intake. I wouldnt recommend the PRCAI if you dont have any mechanical skills, because it is time consuming with a lot of nuts and bolts to remove. However I did my installation on the new monster flow intake from PRCAI and it was a perfect fit. Did not rub the fenderwell at all. So for beginners if your looking for a great modification that will not take a bit out of your wallet, I suggest Stillen hi flow intake or Place Racing Cold Air Intake. These are two great choices....
I don't know about the 10hp "exact", but if you want some dyno information look up Project Maxima the article in SCC Dec 2000. In that article the drop in from K&N produced 4hp at the wheels, and a open element produced 4.4hp at the wheels.
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Re: Re: PRCAI vs. Cone filters(stillen hi flow/pop charger)

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I don't know about the 10hp "exact", but if you want some dyno information look up Project Maxima the article in SCC Dec 2000. In that article the drop in from K&N produced 4hp at the wheels, and a open element produced 4.4hp at the wheels.
scc also said that 2k2 6-spd's run 15 flats, they aren't even close. i ran a 14.3 and someone just ran a 14.2
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Re: Re: PRCAI vs. Cone filters(stillen hi flow/pop charger)

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I don't know about the 10hp "exact", but if you want some dyno information look up Project Maxima the article in SCC Dec 2000. In that article the drop in from K&N produced 4hp at the wheels, and a open element produced 4.4hp at the wheels.
and that was after a HKS exhaust
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Where are you getting a Stillen intake for 175.00.Please let me know because the cheapest ive found it is for 189.
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Re: Re: Re: PRCAI vs. Cone filters(stillen hi flow/pop charger)

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scc also said that 2k2 6-spd's run 15 flats, they aren't even close. i ran a 14.3 and someone just ran a 14.2

1/4 mile times have variables that are not the same for every case. ie. ambient temp, driver, etc. So yes just becasue SCC says they ran 15 flat doesn't mean everyone will run it. However the dyno's are a little more across the board, and yes the dyno tests too have variables. Thanks to TheMax for pointing out that the baseline dyno was done with a HKS exhaust. I forgot to mention that.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: PRCAI vs. Cone filters(stillen hi flow/pop charger)

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1/4 mile times have variables that are not the same for every case. ie. ambient temp, driver, etc. So yes just becasue SCC says they ran 15 flat doesn't mean everyone will run it. However the dyno's are a little more across the board, and yes the dyno tests too have variables. Thanks to TheMax for pointing out that the baseline dyno was done with a HKS exhaust. I forgot to mention that.
no one has came that close to that horrible of a time, paul2k26-spd got 14.7's with 2.6 short times.

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