a33

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can anyone tell me about it...
i am about to get it, but i want to know what i have to do to the struts to make it fit...
i currently have the h&r and tokico setup

woosh

Can you share your likes and dislikes about your current setup? Why do you want change to ground controls?

BTW I think Y2Kev has/had these.

a33

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first, i dont hink the car is low enough, for some reason, i still have 4 fingers of gap in the front, the back is ok, and in my opinion, i think the tokico's are too soft, i like the ride to be stiff, cuz i like it when the car doesnt roll to one side when i turn...

RBa

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4 finger gap?? I'm on Eibachs and I only have 1 finger gap front, half finger rear... I thought H&Rs went lower than eibachs..

BTW.. I heard you have to shave off something to make the GCs fit.. I was thinking of getting GCs myself but still debating whether it's worth the trouble since I'm an everyday driver..
From your earlier and unfortunate visit, You must know NYC roads are the worst. I bottom out as is. Now I'm regretting lowering my car with my back injury and all...

I don't think tokicos are soft.. They are madd stiff compared to konis or kybs where you can adjust the setting.. If you want better cornering and limited sway, considering you don't have it already, add an RSB & FSTB. Adding an RSB made a big difference for me..

Just my 2 cents!!!...

Themaxidocius

I love them and I bought the ones that use the stock struts or can be upgraded to tokico. They have gc that are specifcally made for koni's too. My max is lowered as low as the coilover goes, but there is a metal bracket inside the wheel well that won't allow it to go lower in the fornt. But if that wasn't there i would be tucking wheels big time. Right now it there is no gap right on top of the tire and there is no rub and rides good.

srbarnes4ever

Can you tell me what spring rates you used front and rear? I bought the GCs for my daily driver Ford Escort along with tokico struts and I think the ride sucks. The struts are waaay underdamped for the spring force (300# front/200# rear) so I'm going with conventional Eibach pro-kits for now until I find a good, adjustable strut to handle the load.

max'n out

If you really want gc, I suggest 400 to 450lb springs f&r, and agx struts so you can adjust it accodinly. You then have to have the body of the strut threded, some new mounts so forth and so on. Personally I say no, it's not a real coilover.

a33

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albert: i do have the rsb and fsb already.... and i have the h&r's and tokico, the roads in toronto are bad, but nothing compared to nyc, so i think i would go with the gc's.....

adman

I've always been happy with mine.


ADMAN

jhans114

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Im interested in getting GC 2... but what are the best struts/shocks to combine so the ride isnt as harsh but will still ride on rails???Thanks

a33

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i am very close to buyin it, just unsure about moddin the struts..

Themaxidocius

WEll you are comparing a ford escort to a maxima. Ride is so much different even stock. Just call Ground control and they have two versions based on what you are going to do with your stock struts. I have the GC coilovers for 2000 Max se that can be used with tokico or stock struts. Like i said i lowered it all the way and it ride is awesome. I had a 2000 civic with arospeed coilovers and they sucked - it was bouncin and made crunching sounds. But I would highly suggest GC for 5th gen maximas even with stock struts they are great.

a33

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what do you mean by there are two different versions???

does gc have two different versons of the coilover for the maxima??

Themaxidocius

u can either get gc coilovers for stock/or tokico upgrade -- or u can get the ones for koni strut upgrade

jhans114

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To those who have GC... Do hear squeqing? How rough is the ride? I need this info in facts cause I was about to get the H&R set up with Tokico but if the GC w/ the Koni set up is drivable then thats what Im gonna get. OR also how about the Cattman Coilovers? Are they better quality than the GC? Thanks

ecko

my gc are pretty good even with the stock struts. but the rear rattles. and when i turn the steering wheel all the way to the right, the gc squeaks a bit, but otherwise regular turning and driving it dont squeak at all. just annoyed with the rattling. barely can tell though.

MaxedOut2g

so what you're saying is that if i want GC, i can only use tokico or koni struts? what if i want to use kyb-agx [for example], i wouldnt be able to use em?
atw

jhans114

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I agree that the Cattman is a full coilover system but my question was does it squeek or rattle and how is the ride. I dont mind spending the extra money to get the CC but if the make the same noises and they also rattle then Ill go with GC. Thanks

max'n out

The cc ones for the pre 2k's are supposed to be great from what Ive read from others on here. I can tell you for the 2k, the ride is great, you can adjust the firmness, camber, and height. On mine there are some minor rear noises. I think at this point its only from the metel to metel contact.

MILANO

I had Ground Controls and Tokico Blues on my 2K2. They would rattle and squeak like crazy. Couldn't stand them. Although on occasion I would use a high pressure washer to get the sand out of the spring, then spray some lube up in there and it would go away, for awhile than return again. Looked sweet, sounded like a cheap setup, and it was $700 shipped from Stillen to CT.

woosh

So,

It seems alot of ppl have pleasing performance setups + squeaks. Is there anyone with a setup that is just firmer/better than stock and no squeaks? Or has anyone found a long term cure for the squeaks?

woosh

Hey Hogan,

Is it the custom upper strut mounts, that eliminates the squeaks?
Cause I think I've seen someone on here mention they have the Eibach and KYB AGX's setup and it squeaks.

If so, how much work/dollars are we talking for the custom strut mount work and like you said earlier how hard is this to maintain if something goes wrong?

pfsssh
woosh!

Trunksu

oops, I didn't know we were suppose to mention the shock combo when ordering the GCs. I already got my GCs and I was aiming with Tokicos, do you think it's possible I got the wrong GC? And what's with all this squeking I'm hearing about? Is it because of the GC or the shocks, or the combo? (i'm starting to hear the squeking when i make a full turn such as a u-turn). Is the rattling THAT loud? I'm starting to get paranoid :P

max'n out

kewl, but will the rubber last? What type is it and what was it orignaly ment for, or did you get it custom made? I don't think the metel perch is the problem, most coilovers are like that(metel to metel on the perch). I think the problem may be the top hat doesn't really have a way for the spring to lock into (if you will) kinda like a dipple to settle into, but just an idea. Did you feel any adverse afects of the rubber?

SuPedUpCiViCGrL

I have gc coil overs and they squeek like crazy. but then again I own a civic.

max'n out

Dizam, I knew they woun't last long, but wooooo one day is a little shocking. I contacted severel companys about some poly joints but got blown off, so who knows, but i din't ask gc. I looked at the rears today on the lift, and noticed (now I havn't seen the car in months) but noticed an odd amount of paint coming off of the uper mount. Now of course there gonna chip a little where the spring sits, but to me it looked like it was bouncing around the mount a little. So maybe having a recessed section where the spring could "lock" into might help. Maybe that should be the upgrade Brian should look into for gen3.