C&D just tested the new 6spd CL-S
03-19-2002, 05:52 AM
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C&D just tested the new 6spd CL-S
I can't believe how fast they took to test that car, and it took them forever to even test the Maxima! Damn freaks...
Anyways they got 14.0! Holy crap, well I guess the 6spd max better watch out, it looks like comp. It's on www.caranddriver.com
Anyways they got 14.0! Holy crap, well I guess the 6spd max better watch out, it looks like comp. It's on www.caranddriver.com
03-19-2002, 06:13 AM
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http://forums.clubsi.com/showflat.ph...b=5&o=0&fpart=
It was orginally posted there....the link is in that post.
If a Altima can do low 14s and a 6spd Max, the CL-S should as well.
It was orginally posted there....the link is in that post.
If a Altima can do low 14s and a 6spd Max, the CL-S should as well.
03-19-2002, 06:24 AM
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Re: C&D just tested the new 6spd CL-S
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
I can't believe how fast they took to test that car, and it took them forever to even test the Maxima! Damn freaks...
Anyways they got 14.0! Holy crap, well I guess the 6spd max better watch out, it looks like comp. It's on www.caranddriver.com
I can't believe how fast they took to test that car, and it took them forever to even test the Maxima! Damn freaks...
Anyways they got 14.0! Holy crap, well I guess the 6spd max better watch out, it looks like comp. It's on www.caranddriver.com
Nothing mentioned 14.0 1/4mile time
They did however estimated 0-60 times or 6.4seconds on that FIRSTDRIVE
In another Issue, they tested the G35 AUTOMATIC and estimated 0-60 times or 6.5 seconds. I GUESS THE MANUAL G35 WILL BE LIGHT SPEED FASTER THAN THE CLS 6SPEED YAY!!
Anyways, Car and Driver never got 14.0 seconds clean and simple.
03-19-2002, 06:28 AM
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Ditto... from the article it says:
It's all about "should's & would's". It's like me believing SCC's numbers.
The six-speed Type-S is 60 pounds lighter than the automatic version, and that, plus the greater efficiency of a manual, should add up to about a half-second at the drag strip, according to Acura. If true, that would mean a 0-to-60 time in the low-six-second range. Which would put it right in there with the BMW 330Ci, the perennial king of this class—for about $4000 less.
03-19-2002, 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by soundmike
Ditto... from the article it says:
It's all about "should's & would's". It's like me believing SCC's numbers.
Ditto... from the article it says:
It's all about "should's & would's". It's like me believing SCC's numbers.
Also...here are some 14 sec cars and their 0-60 times:
1998 M3, 14.0 and 0-60 in 5.5
Bullitt Mustang, 14.1 and 0-60 in 5.6
1999 Camaro SS, 13.9 and 0-60 in 5.3
I know 0-60 is not a direct correlation to 1/4 mile times...but you get the idea.
What is the current 1/4 mile time for the auto...Edmunds says 15.01 and C&D says 14.7. So based on HONDA's calculations...the new 6 speed should be around a 14.2/14.6 sec car. That would tell me we have a dam close race. I really do like the CL and I think mating it with a 6-speed was the best thing they could have done for that car.
Now lets go easy with people starting rumors..."some guy said it runs 13.5's...I heard it, honest". Until we start seeing some time slips...lets just be happy that it is available and the Max has a very formable opponent
Good times to come!!
Brian
03-19-2002, 07:05 AM
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Why is this post in the 5th gen forum?
Please move it to honduh.org or slowcars.com. If not that, please move it to off-topic.
This is a Maxima forum. We're happy you got the new car, but we don't care to hear about it, especially since you didn't even get the 6-speed. Sheesh.
Please move it to honduh.org or slowcars.com. If not that, please move it to off-topic.
This is a Maxima forum. We're happy you got the new car, but we don't care to hear about it, especially since you didn't even get the 6-speed. Sheesh.
03-19-2002, 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by Tanmann9
Why is this post in the 5th gen forum?
Please move it to honduh.org or slowcars.com. If not that, please move it to off-topic.
This is a Maxima forum. We're happy you got the new car, but we don't care to hear about it, especially since you didn't even get the 6-speed. Sheesh.
Why is this post in the 5th gen forum?
Please move it to honduh.org or slowcars.com. If not that, please move it to off-topic.
This is a Maxima forum. We're happy you got the new car, but we don't care to hear about it, especially since you didn't even get the 6-speed. Sheesh.
03-19-2002, 09:24 AM
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If C&D published a 14.0 1/4 for the CL-S 6-speed, then somebody get that driver to drive every other car they test!
If anybody cares to post a link to something that actually shows C&D's 14.0, that would be great. Based on previous times that C&D has published, one would have to assume that a 14.0 time would suggest that a race-sensitive driver would push that down another 3-tenths. So, I'll look forward to those first 6-speed CL-S drivers running 13.7's.
If anybody cares to post a link to something that actually shows C&D's 14.0, that would be great. Based on previous times that C&D has published, one would have to assume that a 14.0 time would suggest that a race-sensitive driver would push that down another 3-tenths. So, I'll look forward to those first 6-speed CL-S drivers running 13.7's.
03-19-2002, 03:05 PM
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Eric, long time no see dude 
Originally posted by ehughes
Russ, do you still own a Max? Then how do you have time for a Max forum when the Honda rice guys have so much to talk about? Not saying a 14.0 is impossible...just talk about it at hondaboys.com.
Russ, do you still own a Max? Then how do you have time for a Max forum when the Honda rice guys have so much to talk about? Not saying a 14.0 is impossible...just talk about it at hondaboys.com.
03-19-2002, 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by soundmike
Eric, long time no see dude
Eric, long time no see dude
03-19-2002, 03:32 PM
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Remeber that CAr and Driver pritns "corrected" times which often differ from the real world. I wonder if the CL-S had headers on it like the last type S had when tested 
If it did get 14.0 flat I would have to say I am very suprised considering the weight, HP and TQ on the car.
If it did get 14.0 flat I would have to say I am very suprised considering the weight, HP and TQ on the car.
03-19-2002, 04:22 PM
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This post is OT:
That guy is full of BS because Car & Driver waits a while to put its newest articles online. If they put their articles up instantly, why would anyone pay for the magazine???
This post is OT:
That guy is full of BS because Car & Driver waits a while to put its newest articles online. If they put their articles up instantly, why would anyone pay for the magazine???
lol
03-19-2002, 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by Tanmann9
Why is this post in the 5th gen forum?
Please move it to honduh.org or slowcars.com. If not that, please move it to off-topic.
This is a Maxima forum. We're happy you got the new car, but we don't care to hear about it, especially since you didn't even get the 6-speed. Sheesh.
Why is this post in the 5th gen forum?
Please move it to honduh.org or slowcars.com. If not that, please move it to off-topic.
This is a Maxima forum. We're happy you got the new car, but we don't care to hear about it, especially since you didn't even get the 6-speed. Sheesh.
03-19-2002, 04:44 PM
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C'mon guys,
can you guys relax a little?
I know that the 6-Speed CL-S has nothing to do with the Maxima, but like Russ said, it IS a major competitor to the Maxima. It's not like Russ, or for that matter anyone else, posts non Maxima related stuff everyday. Even though this is a Maxima forum, I actually want someone to post "big" news about other cars once in a while. We are all automobile enthusiasts, right? So why can't we have an intelligent technical discussion about other cars once in a while?
Russ may have a CL-S now, but he is the founder of 5thgenmaximas.com after all. I'd like to see some of you put in that much dedication to the Maximas. Russ has every right to post in this forum, even though it may not be 100% about Maximas. If an intelligent discussion about other cars is not permissible on this board, then I'd say you guys are not enjoying automobiles to the fullest extent.
I know that the 6-Speed CL-S has nothing to do with the Maxima, but like Russ said, it IS a major competitor to the Maxima. It's not like Russ, or for that matter anyone else, posts non Maxima related stuff everyday. Even though this is a Maxima forum, I actually want someone to post "big" news about other cars once in a while. We are all automobile enthusiasts, right? So why can't we have an intelligent technical discussion about other cars once in a while?
Russ may have a CL-S now, but he is the founder of 5thgenmaximas.com after all. I'd like to see some of you put in that much dedication to the Maximas. Russ has every right to post in this forum, even though it may not be 100% about Maximas. If an intelligent discussion about other cars is not permissible on this board, then I'd say you guys are not enjoying automobiles to the fullest extent.
03-19-2002, 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Blah man, why the smart comments to a local texas person!? Geez. Your RX7 is your fun car now, go over there and ignore the Max.... I still run my site, I still support the max.
Blah man, why the smart comments to a local texas person!? Geez. Your RX7 is your fun car now, go over there and ignore the Max.... I still run my site, I still support the max.
03-19-2002, 04:53 PM
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Re: C'mon guys,
Originally posted by ArcticMax
can you guys relax a little?
I know that the 6-Speed CL-S has nothing to do with the Maxima, but like Russ said, it IS a major competitor to the Maxima. It's not like Russ, or for that matter anyone else, posts non Maxima related stuff everyday. Even though this is a Maxima forum, I actually want someone to post "big" news about other cars once in a while. We are all automobile enthusiasts, right? So why can't we have an intelligent technical discussion about other cars once in a while?
Russ may have a CL-S now, but he is the founder of 5thgenmaximas.com after all. I'd like to see some of you put in that much dedication to the Maximas. Russ has every right to post in this forum, even though it may not be 100% about Maximas. If an intelligent discussion about other cars is not permissible on this board, then I'd say you guys are not enjoying automobiles to the fullest extent.
can you guys relax a little?
I know that the 6-Speed CL-S has nothing to do with the Maxima, but like Russ said, it IS a major competitor to the Maxima. It's not like Russ, or for that matter anyone else, posts non Maxima related stuff everyday. Even though this is a Maxima forum, I actually want someone to post "big" news about other cars once in a while. We are all automobile enthusiasts, right? So why can't we have an intelligent technical discussion about other cars once in a while?
Russ may have a CL-S now, but he is the founder of 5thgenmaximas.com after all. I'd like to see some of you put in that much dedication to the Maximas. Russ has every right to post in this forum, even though it may not be 100% about Maximas. If an intelligent discussion about other cars is not permissible on this board, then I'd say you guys are not enjoying automobiles to the fullest extent.
Lay off Russ boys!!!! Now!!! Seems like he has a knight in shining armor to defend him on the org. After rading all of the b@#llsh&*t that he posts, I seriously doubts if he needs one.
03-19-2002, 05:01 PM
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Re: C'mon guys,
Originally posted by ArcticMax
can you guys relax a little?
I know that the 6-Speed CL-S has nothing to do with the Maxima, but like Russ said, it IS a major competitor to the Maxima. It's not like Russ, or for that matter anyone else, posts non Maxima related stuff everyday. Even though this is a Maxima forum, I actually want someone to post "big" news about other cars once in a while. We are all automobile enthusiasts, right? So why can't we have an intelligent technical discussion about other cars once in a while?
Russ may have a CL-S now, but he is the founder of 5thgenmaximas.com after all. I'd like to see some of you put in that much dedication to the Maximas. Russ has every right to post in this forum, even though it may not be 100% about Maximas. If an intelligent discussion about other cars is not permissible on this board, then I'd say you guys are not enjoying automobiles to the fullest extent.
can you guys relax a little?
I know that the 6-Speed CL-S has nothing to do with the Maxima, but like Russ said, it IS a major competitor to the Maxima. It's not like Russ, or for that matter anyone else, posts non Maxima related stuff everyday. Even though this is a Maxima forum, I actually want someone to post "big" news about other cars once in a while. We are all automobile enthusiasts, right? So why can't we have an intelligent technical discussion about other cars once in a while?
Russ may have a CL-S now, but he is the founder of 5thgenmaximas.com after all. I'd like to see some of you put in that much dedication to the Maximas. Russ has every right to post in this forum, even though it may not be 100% about Maximas. If an intelligent discussion about other cars is not permissible on this board, then I'd say you guys are not enjoying automobiles to the fullest extent.
Russ, did your mom join .org???
J/K
03-19-2002, 06:34 PM
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I highly doubt a CL-S 6spd will do 14.0 flat.
The 2k2 Max 6spd has only a tiny bit less horsepower, a ton more torque, and 250lb less weight and runs 14.3s stock. Unless Acura is able to get significantly more power to the ground with their manual tranny (it's possible, Honda's tend to be quite good in this department compared to Nissan), a 14.0 time would defy the laws of physics IMHO.
The 2k2 Max 6spd has only a tiny bit less horsepower, a ton more torque, and 250lb less weight and runs 14.3s stock. Unless Acura is able to get significantly more power to the ground with their manual tranny (it's possible, Honda's tend to be quite good in this department compared to Nissan), a 14.0 time would defy the laws of physics IMHO.
03-19-2002, 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
I highly doubt a CL-S 6spd will do 14.0 flat.
The 2k2 Max 6spd has only a tiny bit less horsepower, a ton more torque, and 250lb less weight and runs 14.3s stock. Unless Acura is able to get significantly more power to the ground with their manual tranny (it's possible, Honda's tend to be quite good in this department compared to Nissan), a 14.0 time would defy the laws of physics IMHO.
I highly doubt a CL-S 6spd will do 14.0 flat.
The 2k2 Max 6spd has only a tiny bit less horsepower, a ton more torque, and 250lb less weight and runs 14.3s stock. Unless Acura is able to get significantly more power to the ground with their manual tranny (it's possible, Honda's tend to be quite good in this department compared to Nissan), a 14.0 time would defy the laws of physics IMHO.
Hey Steve!! I finally gave in and bought a 2K2 Max!! This thing's the bomb, bro!!
03-20-2002, 06:05 AM
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[if Russ had my 94]
My 94 is going to hit 12s with an intake and exhaust including a 2k muffler.
I know because I say it is so.....there are plenty of magazines that show modified, normally aspirated VGs doing 12s all the time.....
[/if Russ had my 94]
My 94 is going to hit 12s with an intake and exhaust including a 2k muffler.
I know because I say it is so.....there are plenty of magazines that show modified, normally aspirated VGs doing 12s all the time.....
[/if Russ had my 94]
03-20-2002, 06:42 AM
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You gotta spend some time on the Org dude. Your max already feels ignored
Hey, got more pix of the RX7?
Hey, got more pix of the RX7?
Originally posted by ehughes
Thanks. Yeah..Rx7forum.com has taken me over. There is a sh!tload of info to search thru regarding the rx7. But, I will try to make it back here more. I am looking at some exhaust mods for my max (that nobody offers!). BTW, the more I learn about the turbocharged engines, the more a big @ss turbocharger on my 3.5 liter sounds like a good idea (and a helluva lota work)! I hope someone does it soon!
Thanks. Yeah..Rx7forum.com has taken me over. There is a sh!tload of info to search thru regarding the rx7. But, I will try to make it back here more. I am looking at some exhaust mods for my max (that nobody offers!). BTW, the more I learn about the turbocharged engines, the more a big @ss turbocharger on my 3.5 liter sounds like a good idea (and a helluva lota work)! I hope someone does it soon!
03-20-2002, 07:04 AM
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Not that i'm taking sides here or anything, but what's wrong with posting some info on the new CL-S?
I mean, when someone posts info on some other car that may be a maxima contender no one bashes that post (It may end up in OT but nevertheless).
Would this mean if i posted info on the upcoming VW V8 sedan i'll get the same type of bashing?
I mean, when someone posts info on some other car that may be a maxima contender no one bashes that post (It may end up in OT but nevertheless).
Would this mean if i posted info on the upcoming VW V8 sedan i'll get the same type of bashing?