Ah.. had a chance to race a 2K2 Vette, old geezer included ! We got to a stop light, we both nailed it and , of course i got smoked, but only by 1-2 car lenthgs.. It was more till I closed in on him after 2nd gear...Not bad for a 4 door sedan...

 

What speed did you get up to? did he let off after second gear for you to catch up?

 

I reached about 100 mph, at that point he let off....I dont think he ever let off.. The vette sounded at FULL THROTTLE all the way....

 

How could you close on him in 2nd?? Vette's run anywhere from 106 to 110 mph in the quarter stock, and if you went to a 100mph it seems like he would have gotten more than 2 cars on ya'. Now if you are sprayin' the happy gas then thats a different story.

 

Yeah I highly doubt that the max is keepin up with a 2k2 corvette.

 

I think if you spray the Happy Gas, you would be able to surprise a Vette. If you went to a 75-100 shot, with Intake and Exhaust... You would be in pretty good shape, that is untill you hit the turns..then its Bye Bye , the Vette runs away...I think those times your thinking are for the new lightweight Vette for 2002....

 

kloogy - Nice run, but I think the Vette owner was just playing with you

 

I raced a vette and hung evenly with it. And it was legit.

 

If I had Vette, I would screw with a maxx too..

 

the geezer prolly couldn't drive

 

Youre right !

 

New lightweight vette for 02?? No, I was not talking about the Z06, that runs closer to 114mph in the quarter.

I was clearly talking about a stock vette.

 

He probably didn't even know you were racing him, it happens to me all the time, I'm just moving accerating briskly and get up speed and hit cruise... then I get a ricer fly by and wonder if they thought I racing. Even an Automatic Vette should put 10+ car lengths on you... they run 13.1-13.3 in auto form. Or he had a Manuel and wasn't excellerating all the way and was short shiftling real early.

 

I raced a Linglefetter (Sp?) Vette

I WON!!!

NOT......

Sub 4's 0-60.......WHEW THATS FAST.

 

kloogy, you should know better!
I have an '01 Vette Coupe as my "weekend warrior," and yes I do sport a few gray hairs (at 47).
My first car was a '64 Impala SS...and I just used to love the blow the doors off of other fast cars...and I'm still doing it.
I just picked up the new SE this past weekend to replace my old "daily driver" (an '88 Merc Cougar with 5.0L package). I can't wait to see how the SE will do once her "break-in" period is over.

 

you will be very pleased but at the same time........will want more.

 

I would have to humbly argue that he was playing with you or he couldn't drive.

If you raced to 100 miles/hr and the vette was only 1 second faster to that speed (and yes it would be faster to that speed) it would be roughly 140 feet ahead. "Normal" vettes run the qtr in low 13's. A 2002 Z06 will run to 60 miles/hr in 4.07 and the qtr in 12.4 at 116 miles/hr or so. That is a LOT faster than any max stock to stock. Plus, there is not much that can handle like a vette. 2002's are running the slalom at 70 miles/hr and will pull about 1.0 G's on the skidpad. Of course it's always fun to dream.

 

Damn straight If I was in that vette and you chased me, you'd need binoculors to see my tailights I love the Maxima, but damn, that's a high horsepower rumble thumping V-8 you're talking about!

DW

 

Well,
I have more than a few grey hairs and if I thought you were racing me I would not risk my life or yours, but you would not know how bad it could have been. "A man has to know his limitations"

 

Hey, I meant NO DIS - RESPECT to the VETTE ! I love the car.. I just related an inccident , as it happened, if I could, I too would have a VETTE in my stable..but it will be a few more years for that ! .. I love VETTES !

 

No misunderstanding, I drive my Max more and love it!

 

kloogy, all good things will come to those who wait
BTW, I had to take the SE in yesterday to the dealer (have 220 miles on her) because I noticed that the steering wheel is not centered...they did an alignment and it is still not centered...so they will try again this morning...p.s. when I got my Vette last year it came from the factory with mis-aligned tail pipes...so it doesn't matter what you get...I guess cars, built by man, are never absolutely perfect).

 

What's the difference between a Vette and a porcupine?

On a Porcupine the ****** are on the OUTSIDE!

 

Not funny at all in my opinion. Vette owners are some of the nicest people I know.

 

I agree! I will walk the $hit out of a 2k2 Max shifting at 4k in my Z28. I will tell you the LS1 just starts to come to life at 4K too!!! Here is the feeling, you shift into 2nd and as the speed increases you can now finally floor it at about 50ish (traction prohibited anything before 50) then as the needle swings past 5k the rear end breaks loose and you are now trying to point the car in the right direction! a shift to third gets you back in line and pulling HARD! 4th and 5th pull just as hard as 3rd and you are now looking at 150+ MPH!!

I will tell you the LS1 is faster than most people think.

Mark

 

VERY nice Vett!!!

 

I am admittedly a vette lover, and at the drag strip on open track night I had the fortune of pulling up next to an automatic C5. And the claim about maximas pulling on the vette in 2nd gear is not BS. I finished the 1/4 mile about 2 (NOT 10) carlengths back, but on the timeslip something really stood out. The vette had a better 60' time, but I had the better 250' time. Sounds like I was pulling on it to me.

 

I guess I wasnt smokin the Hippie Lettuce like some of you claimed I was ..He he he..

 

First of all - it was just a joke, lighten' up. Second, I never said a Max could take a Vette - NO WAY. I respect the car very much but I see so many wanna be's driving them around here in the midwest winter acting like there Donald Trump or a NASCAR superstar. Yes, it is wrong to "lump" a group together, you'll find jerk-offs in any group - including Maxima's- it was a joke. These (certain) people tooling around in leased $499/mo car for status crack me up. Hell, I BOUGHT my 2000 Max and pay $475/mo - but it will be paid for this year - MINE. The best license plate frame I ever saw was a guy driving a BEAUTIFUL spotless new Vette, the fram said..."My other car is a piece of ****" Gotta respect the honesty there, he is not a "wanna-be".

 

There is a Mercedes S600 here in San Diego, the License plate says " POOR YOU ".... Talk about an A$$ !!

 

The LS1 is a great motor. Its the only reason F-bodies havent got axed in the last few years. The car is a peice of junk, but the drivetrain is awesome.

 

Boy I cringed at your remark but have to admit you are 100% right!! I bought the Z28 for one reason only, to have RWD and go fast for under 25k!!! I drive the Max 95% of the time and when I get in the Z28 the lack of quality of materials used and fit and finish really show! I will tell you one hit of the gas and you forget all about that!!

Mark

 

Its because GM didnt pump any money into the Camaro that last few years for interior/ergonomics. They just let it die. I like the looks of the Z28, but its interior looks like a 10 year old designed it. Like you said the plastics are cheap and they should have figured out a way to get rid of the hump cause by the Cat.

 

I just don't see how a 2k2 Maxima at WOT will hang with any LS1 at WOT, assuming the drivers are decent. I've beaten 13-second cars on the street/track only because the driver wasn't great. Last night at the track, I beat a 2K1 Cobra. I had a better R/T and 60' which gave me almost a .5 second lead. I won the race by 3 cars, but he still had a better ET and MPH (14.6@102mph vs my 14.7@96mph).

I've watched too many stock auto C5s with lay down 13.2-13.4@105+mph. I've watched some stock 6 speed Vettes go 12.8s@110mph. There's no way a NA Maxima of any year can match that.

I don't doubt the race, but the driver sucked or he wasn't really racing.


Dave

 

the funny thing is, its probably leased. both my civic and dad's maxima is fully paid for, and i think my dad feels better knowing he has no car payments, even though friends of his(and their kids) roll around in benz or bmw or lexus. they are all good friends of my dad, but they can be a$$holes at times, just because of what they drive. there is nothing wrong with leasing, you just dont need to act like a fool just because you got something better than another.

 

I suspect it is hard to charaterize people by their car related to their attitude.As my car dealer friend used to say: "there is is an *** for every seat"

 

I experienced the F-Body junk first hand back in 1991. I ordered a loaded Z28 (first year back after IROC was discontinued) waited 12 weeks for the car to come in, drove it 2200 miles and Chevy bought it back as a lemon - what a piece of junk! I bought that car to hopefully keep for a LONG time, I had another car and never drove the Z in the rain. I agree, the drivetrain was awesome ,nothing beats a V8 growl - well maybe a V10. I traded a Honda CRX for the Z and it was the biggest mistake I ever made, went back to Japanese and have owned nothing else since. But it's still sad to see it axed, the Camaro and Mustang are all we have left of the muscle car era - at least in an affordable price range - which was what the muscle cars were all about, horsepower to the people. RIP Camaro

 

A little hard to compare a '91 Z28 to a '02 Z28. 11 years even with GM does make a difference in quality. I will say the GM product is far from what it should be but in no way is the '02 Z28 even remotely what the '91 Z28 was either in powertrain or fit/finish.

A '91 245hp V-8 with no power above 4.5k and a '02 350hp V-8 with power to 6k have absolutely nothing in common. Not even the size or materials used.

I agree a Jap car is far superior and is why I have one as my daily driver. But please compare equally, not to a car 11 years ago.

Mark

 

Ha! That's what I thought. I drove a C4 the 2nd year they made it. like '86. Piece of crap inside. You could tell that Chevy made the Citation AND this car. Pathetic for a flagship.

But the motor . . . . .my GOD, floor it and those huge tires beg for mercy as they spin out relentlessly. It was as if, the throttle was connected to my brain. You want to go there, it went there, IMMEDIATELY. After that I was kind of forgiving of its Chevy citation interior.

I also test drove the last year of the C4. Chevy really improved the interior. Why does GM wait till that last year of production to get it all right?? Same crazy motor you can't say no to. Most powerfull car I have ever driven.

DW

 

I am aware that the current generation is a re-designed car from the 91's but re-designed does not mean improved in the quality department. Getting into the American v/s Jap debate is not where I wanted to go, I apologize for offending anyone but don't apologize for my OPINIONS to which I'm entitled - as you are to yours. I have a good friend that has a 2000 T/A WS6, VERY fast car and nice looking. With a little tweaking he has it running with the Vettes - at about HALF the price. But I couldn't imagine putting 100-150K on the car, I may be wrong but I don't think it would hold up.