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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 06:50 AM
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How would a Corvette do against a SC'ed 00-01 Max @ 9 (cooled) psi's?

Not sure what year... The body style looks like the newest one, but the exhaust tips are on the outer end of the car, left and right side, rather than under the license plate.

Could someone be so kind as to post hp/torque, 0-60, and 1/4 mile times? Thanks.
Old Apr 9, 2002 | 06:58 AM
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Don't know try it. Maybe you can get him. Let us know how you do if you get into that situation. I have a question to ask through PM.
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Re: How would a Corvette do against a SC'ed 00-01 Max @ 9 (cooled) psi's?

I knew a guy with a 98 vette coupe that ran 0-60 mid to high 4's aprox. 4.7-4.9 and quarter a little over 13 secs
Old Apr 9, 2002 | 07:09 AM
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this is an impossible question to answer... it could be a 14 second car or a 10 second car and we have no way to tell from the information you gave us
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forgot to mention thats bone stock just depends if he knows how to race. So with those #'s you think you can hang. I hope its not a zo6 then your toast let me know what happens
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Thanks for the info, TRUblu2K2.

I was in this situation this morning, so I want to see if I was dreaming or not.
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Originally posted by theblue
this is an impossible question to answer... it could be a 14 second car or a 10 second car and we have no way to tell from the information you gave us
I just want to know a general range for hp/torque, etc.


Originally posted by TRUblu2K2
forgot to mention thats bone stock just depends if he knows how to race. So with those #'s you think you can hang. I hope its not a zo6 then your toast let me know what happens
From what I can see, he had an exhaust and some dark colored wheels with some pretty large rear tires.
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sounds like ZO6 wheels if your running mid 12's you will have a chance if not save your gas and let him go
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All the new corvettes have their exhausts exit right under the license plate the one you saw had to be a 99 ZR1 or LT1.

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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


I just want to know a general range for hp/torque, etc.




From what I can see, he had an exhaust and some dark colored wheels with some pretty large rear tires.
Motortrend:
2001 C5 350hp, 0-60 = 4.8s, 1/4-mile = 13.1s@109.1mph
2001 ZO6 385hp, 0-60 = 4.4s, 1/4-mile = 12.6s@114.0mph

Road&Track(Always high!):
97 C5 345hp, 0-60 = 4.8s, 0-100 = 11.5s, 1/4-mile = 13.3s@108.0mph
00 ZO6 385hp, 0-60 = 4.6s, 0-100 = 10.5s, 1/4-mile = 13.0s@110.5mph

I've seen a ZO6(385hp) at the track and the guy was getting beat by turbo rice burners. He could NOT hook up till near half track. He was running HIGH 13's to low 14's, but he clearly could NOT drive. If it's the NEWEST ZO6(405hp/400tq) you don't have a prayer.

Most people can NOT get the maximum potential out of these cars and end up running high 4s to low 5s 0-60 and mid 13s to low 14s 1/4. I've heard a 4.07s 0-60 and 11's 1/4-mile with slicks STOCK. If you got a good(read cool headed, light foot) driver in a STOCK C5(335-350hp) you will probably get beat. Chevys are known for putting to the wheels hp/tq numbers close to flywheel.

Even if you both put down the same hp/tq to the wheels, he's still going to have the RWD launch advantage. Try and get him on a roll and see what happens. I don't think you have a chance from a stop, but I would like to see you win.
Old Apr 9, 2002 | 10:46 AM
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I have no idea about the maxima, but here are some times from C5s from what I've seen:

C5 6-speed manuel:
Typical time: 13.0
Fastest Mag time: 12.9 (popular mechanics), although Kenny Smith ran a 12.68 powershifting for one mag. Some Corvetteforum members in 12s stock

C5 Auto:
Typical 13.2-13.4 depending on what rear end is in the car 3.08/2.73
Fastest Mag time: 13.29 (motor trend, an auto convertable) Some Corvetteforum members in high 12s stock.

The only other thing is that a lot of C5s have aftermarket air filters, good for .2, or COIs good for .4.... so you see many with just a Cold Air Intake (like the Vortex Rammer I have) running in the 12.6-12.7 area.
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Vette's with the exhaust coming out the right and left sides in frong of the rear wheels are Z06's ... stats already posted ... and you only stand a chance in a straight line.
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Thanks for the info.

I did get a chance to tangle with one this morning on the freeway. He tried to do a ricer flyby from about 3 cars back (went WOT before I did). After we tangled, he went all the way to the right lane and floored it through traffic (I did not follow)... and man was that thing fast. The only other time I've seen a car take off like that is when I was watching a NSX accelerate after paying for toll.
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Thanks for the info.

I did get a chance to tangle with one this morning on the freeway. He tried to do a ricer flyby from about 3 cars back (went WOT before I did). After we tangled, he went all the way to the right lane and floored it through traffic (I did not follow)... and man was that thing fast. The only other time I've seen a car take off like that is when I was watching a NSX accelerate after paying for toll.
After coming back from the track a few months ago a friend in a Probe GT turbo that was running mid 13's, ran into a C5. They went from 50-60 roll and the probe was pulling on him with ease. I think it may have been a auto. Are they like mustangs, where they have lots of lowend, but on top they are not so great. Don't get me wrong the C5 is a great car, but I want to know are they as strong on the top end as lowend?
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Originally posted by The New CLIMAX


After coming back from the track a few months ago a friend in a Probe GT turbo that was running mid 13's, ran into a C5. They went from 50-60 roll and the probe was pulling on him with ease. I think it may have been a auto. Are they like mustangs, where they have lots of lowend, but on top they are not so great. Don't get me wrong the C5 is a great car, but I want to know are they as strong on the top end as lowend?
Not sure if it's a valid comparison since I'm N/A, but I can attest to seeing a 2001 Camaro SS pull like a bat-out-of-hell on me from 115-140+mph.

Similar engine about 30 less hp. It was friggen gone. I respect ANYTHING that can pull away like your standing still at 115mph.
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Originally posted by Critical
Vette's with the exhaust coming out the right and left sides in frong of the rear wheels are Z06's ... stats already posted ... and you only stand a chance in a straight line.
The exhaust was coming out from behind the rear wheel.

By the stats and description, sounds like I ran into a C5 auto this morning. He must've been surprised...
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Sorry Kev, all C5's have exhaust coming from under the licence plate (Even the Z06) Unless this was a custom job, you most likely ran a 90-96 Vette. Unless its a ZR1, I think you should definately go for it.

Z06 unlder licence plate:
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I love this car
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Originally posted by Burton069
Sorry Kev, all C5's have exhaust coming from under the licence plate (Even the Z06) Unless this was a custom job, you most likely ran a 90-96 Vette. Unless its a ZR1, I think you should definately go for it.

Z06 unlder licence plate:
Thanks for the correction. As you can see, I don't know too much about domestics.
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Thanks for the correction. As you can see, I don't know too much about domestics.
lol its ok. Did you ever run your car at the track yet? Im curious about your times
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


The exhaust was coming out from behind the rear wheel.

By the stats and description, sounds like I ran into a C5 auto this morning. He must've been surprised...
Alright Kev! Enough d!cking around.

Get to the TRACK!
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Still waiting on Turbo95Max to tune his car. After that, track time.
Old Apr 9, 2002 | 12:33 PM
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I think the C5 is strong throughout its rev range. I don't think it will rev to 6500 like the Max, but it doesn't have to.

As far as it being strong on the top end, do you mean the top end of its rev range or from 80mph+??

I don't see why it would be fast from 0-60 and not from 60-170 or whatever its top speed is. It has 6 gears, you are using the same engine rev range regardless of what speed you are traveling. That car puts out over 300 ft/lbs to the wheels for the better part of its rpm range. At whatever speed it is traveling, it will out accelerate any max as long as the driver chooses the right gear.

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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Thanks for the info.

I did get a chance to tangle with one this morning on the freeway. He tried to do a ricer flyby from about 3 cars back (went WOT before I did). After we tangled, he went all the way to the right lane and floored it through traffic (I did not follow)... and man was that thing fast. The only other time I've seen a car take off like that is when I was watching a NSX accelerate after paying for toll.
reminds me of this Porsche on the freeway that kinda did a similiar thing, after the ricer flyby, and me already in third, I hounded him in traffic for about 8 seconds before he used an 18 wheeler as a srceen...oh well, he took off in the open road and I knew I had no chance and my exit was coming up....it wasn't a Boxster, it had horizontal air vents/slits above engine cover...I was surprised to even keep up, my palms were sweaty after that....me him OMG, 4 door family sedan keeping up!!!
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I raced a Vette once...gave him the headstart off the line (didn't think he would actually race) and I gunned it after he did. I gunned it when he was about a half-whole car ahead of me, and I caught to his rear bumper.

I could have beat him, but he got the headstart, and there were twisties ahead! DAMN that thing handled amazingly...

So you see...vettes are no sweat in a straight line
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reminds me of this Porsche on the freeway that kinda did a similiar thing, after the ricer flyby, and me already in third, I hounded him in traffic for about 8 seconds before he used an 18 wheeler as a srceen...oh well, he took off in the open road and I knew I had no chance and my exit was coming up....it wasn't a Boxster, it had horizontal air vents/slits above engine cover...I was surprised to even keep up, my palms were sweaty after that....me him OMG, 4 door family sedan keeping up!!!
Kev,
Sorry Kev if your sig is accurate with 283hp you probably will lose.

Most of the older Corvetts are at least 300 hp and the new ones are 350 to 405. They generate huge torque and weigh about the same as our Max. They have positraction and launch like a rocket with lots of tire on rear 275/40/18 stock and top speed of 170+ mph.
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I think you would get beat by a LS1 Vette. Whoever said that LS1's die up top is totally wrong. They breat well all the way up to redline.

Craig Mack....Were you racing a 80's Vette?? No way you would hang with a C5 or mid 90s vette.
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Kev, one word: NOS!
Kev, one word: BOOM!
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Kev,
Sorry Kev if your sig is accurate with 283hp you probably will lose.

Most of the older Corvetts are at least 300 hp and the new ones are 350 to 405. They generate huge torque and weigh about the same as our Max. They have positraction and launch like a rocket with lots of tire on rear 275/40/18 stock.
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Kev has 283 HP at the wheels..
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I think you would get beat by a LS1 Vette. Whoever said that LS1's die up top is totally wrong. They breat well all the way up to redline.

Craig Mack....Were you racing a 80's Vette?? No way you would hang with a C5 or mid 90s vette.
Take a look at my profile bish....I am running twin-turbo chargers @ 15psi, with upgraded pistons and injectors. I use slicks with 9 inch wide tires w/the best torque converter and limited slip money can buy....


































































It was a late 80's - early 90's vette
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Kev has 283 HP at the wheels..
meaning he has 320-340 flywheel hp correct? but he has no TQ.. (compared to the vette)
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I wouldn't say LS1's have "tons" of top-end, but they're much better than the older LT1's. Besides, top end isn't a Vette's forte, unless it's a Z06... There's no way a Max can hang with a Z06 unless it's putting out more than 350hp at the wheels since that's what a bone-stock Z06 is rated at, at the wheels. Newer ones supposedly have about 15 more hp than the 2k2 Z06's. Whenever I get my Datsun back from the shop, I'll run this fella with a Z06, from a dead dig and a roll so we'll see what kind of top-end the LS6 can muster up...
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Would you guys believe me if I said I actually matched his speed after giving him a jump? Hard to believe isn't it?
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Originally posted by AznWontonboy
meaning he has 320-340 flywheel hp correct? but he has no TQ.. (compared to the vette)
Actually, kev has an automagik (that is still correct isn't it?), so that runs out to more around 350+ crank hp, and with his torque he's right at around 300 or so i believe if i'm doing my math right. and torque isn't nearly as important at highway speed as at a takeoff, so on paper kev should hang. the only thing i wonder about is the fact that most ls1's seem underrated by the factory, and i've seen lots of stock dyno's by z-28's and trans-ams very close to 300hp and quite a few c5s over 300hp. but, i do believe that kev could hang with some c5's...
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Still waiting on Turbo95Max to tune his car. After that, track time.
go beat that Corvette, you got the whole community supporting you. (if you're worried, go get double shots of NOS ready )

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Is there anyway that Kev can increase this torque? What about getting a level 10 tranny. Would that help him? Anything besides NOS? Sorry if this is a stupid question just trying to learn new things.
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go beat that Corvette, you got the whole community supporting you. :-D (if you're worried, go get double shots of NOS ready ;-) )

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I raced one already.

Basically matched his speed before we had to let off because a Civic couldn't decide to stay in his lane or go into my lane.


Originally posted by Menacer
Is there anyway that Kev can increase this torque? What about getting a level 10 tranny. Would that help him? Anything besides NOS? Sorry if this is a stupid question just trying to learn new things.
A 5 speed swap.





Forgot to mention this: I'm running a 3" SC pulley now and an even smaller one should be at my door steps by the end of today. Yes, I'm breaking into the 2" barrier.

I'm not sure how much hp the 3" pulley (vs. 3.125 at 288 whp), but I should be very close to 300 whp.
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Are they like mustangs, where they have lots of lowend, but on top they are not so great. Don't get me wrong the C5 is a great car, but I want to know are they as strong on the top end as lowend?
The LS1 is a beast throughout the rev range. The bottom end is about the same, maybe lower, than the LT1s used in 92-96 Vettes and 93-97 Fbodies. Has a lot more mid and top end though. Its very forgiving to drive fast, b/c you can still short shift and not loose much power.

Most all Fbodies and Vettes with LS1s dyno over 300hp to the wheels.
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Forgot to mention this: I'm running a 3" SC pulley now and an even smaller one should be at my door steps by the end of today. Yes, I'm breaking into the 2" barrier.

I'm not sure how much hp the 3" pulley (vs. 3.125 at 288 whp), but I should be very close to 300 whp. [/B][/QUOTE]

Damn......your so crazy.......i cant belive your auto can take that abuse



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