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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 06:03 AM
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Intakes?

Well i was dead set on purchasing a Stillen Hi-Flow Intake until i checked out the Frankencar Intake. According to the Frankencar website and many forum member suggestions the Frankencar filter is way better sound and performance wise. Im just looking for some guidance on this cause I want to get the best intake for my max and the forum members always know best!
Old Apr 13, 2002 | 06:38 AM
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do a search youll find alot of results on the different intakes available
Old Apr 13, 2002 | 09:05 AM
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Franken has been a popular one, it contains a mid-pipe which is very much needed. The BERK intake is the best for the $!!!

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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 09:08 AM
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I just bought and installed a frankencar intake about a month ago. The sound is incredible and the install is not difficult at all. I can definetly feel the power increase especially at higher RPMs. Added benefit, my car went from 18.5 mpg to 21+ mpg. I dont know if they advertise this but it happened for me.

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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 10:03 AM
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Re: intake

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I just bought and installed a frankencar intake about a month ago. The sound is incredible and the install is not difficult at all. I can definetly feel the power increase especially at higher RPMs. Added benefit, my car went from 18.5 mpg to 21+ mpg. I dont know if they advertise this but it happened for me.

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I think im gonna go with the Frankencar. Seems like a good choice since it does come with the midpipe Maximam mentioned. Did any of you guys notice any problems with the service engine soon light coming on after the installation.
Old Apr 13, 2002 | 10:33 AM
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Re: Re: intake

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I think im gonna go with the Frankencar. Seems like a good choice since it does come with the midpipe Maximam mentioned. Did any of you guys notice any problems with the service engine soon light coming on after the installation.
The service light turned on after I installed my frankencar intake. All I did was unplug the battery for 15 min and that took care of the problem.
Old Apr 13, 2002 | 10:54 AM
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The service light turned on after I installed my frankencar intake. All I did was unplug the battery for 15 min and that took care of the problem.
For me, the SES light came on for a week before it just went off by itself. Dunno why but just glad it did.

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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by LouE37


Did any of you guys notice any problems with the service engine soon light coming on after the installation.
As per the instructions, you should be disconnecting the battery during the install. I don't know if this affects the engine light, but mine never came on and I've had the intake on for about a month now.

Anyone had that "whistle" at moderate acceleration with the intake? It sounds like a loud squealing brake. Steve said it was from the air going into the engine at partial throttle. It didn't do that before the Frankencar install. Do other intakes do the same thing? It's annoying as all get out and is not acceptable as far as I'm concerned. Anyone know how to get rid of it? I don't want to give up the intake (I love it) but this side effect needs to go away or I just might go back to stock or try another intake.

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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 11:57 AM
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Re: Re: Re: intake

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Anyone had that "whistle" at moderate acceleration with the intake?
Yes.



It didn't do that before the Frankencar install.
That's because the OEM intake is completely enclosed. The enclosure acts as a resonator.



Do other intakes do the same thing?
Yes.



Anyone know how to get rid of it?
Remove the butterfly valve from the throttle body.



. . . this side effect needs to go away . . .
OSCAI or WOT.

Actually, if you drive your car for awhile with the Frankencar Intake installed, you can get familiar with where the whistling occurs. Then it's simply a matter of adjusting the accelerator (i.e., the butterfly valve) to accelerate just shy of the whistle or just ahead of the whistle. It takes a little practice, but you can get used to it and keep the whistling to a minimum.
Old Apr 13, 2002 | 01:02 PM
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Hey, does the Berk Intake does the same thing? I mean you get that whistling too?


Thanks.


Originally posted by y2kse

Yes.


That's because the OEM intake is completely enclosed. The enclosure acts as a resonator.


Yes.


Remove the butterfly valve from the throttle body.


OSCAI or WOT.

Actually, if you drive your car for awhile with the Frankencar Intake installed, you can get familiar with where the whistling occurs. Then it's simply a matter of adjusting the accelerator (i.e., the butterfly valve) to accelerate just shy of the whistle or just ahead of the whistle. It takes a little practice, but you can get used to it and keep the whistling to a minimum.
Old Apr 13, 2002 | 01:37 PM
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Hey, does the Berk Intake does the same thing? I mean you get that whistling too?


Thanks.


Yes BERK does too. You should hear the whistle on my friends GS400!!! You think our whistle is loud???? haha try the GS with the Swift Intake!!!!
Old Apr 13, 2002 | 02:13 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: intake

Originally posted by Dany
Hey, does the Berk Intake does the same thing? I mean you get that whistling too?


Thanks.


To the best of my knowledge, there is no way to eliminate the whistling with an open intake (i.e., Stillen, JWT, Berk Tuning, Frankencar, Weapon-R, Place Racing, etc.).
Old Apr 13, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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what is that whistling anyways.....don't you WANT to hear it when you put an intake on? is the same sound as that growl that everyone with a 2k2 says they have with the frakencar intake?
Old Apr 13, 2002 | 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by 2001SE
what is that whistling anyways.....don't you WANT to hear it when you put an intake on? is the same sound as that growl that everyone with a 2k2 says they have with the frakencar intake?
No, it is actually a whistle at part throttle. It doesn't bother me at all.

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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by 2001SE
what is that whistling anyways?
It's the sound the air makes as it passes by a partially open butterfly valve. And it's ALWAYS there. You just don't hear it with the OEM intake because the intake is enclosed.
Old Apr 13, 2002 | 02:52 PM
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I happen to like that whistling sound.
Old Apr 13, 2002 | 02:57 PM
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hey i have the SES light and its not going away...i rest the ecu and had my dads mechanic hook up the computer thing and get rid of it but it keeps coming back...i wanna take the intake out b4 i go to dealers cuz i know they gonna be bliatches about it....i had the FC intake for about a month b4 it came on the first time...
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by 2001SE
what is that whistling anyways.....don't you WANT to hear it when you put an intake on? is the same sound as that growl that everyone with a 2k2 says they have with the frakencar intake?
Nope! You know how your brakes make a very high-pitched SQUEAL when your partially apply them? (well, it doesn't do that in my Max, but in other cars I've owned) That's exactly what it sounds like in my car at about 2K-3K rpm at moderate acceleration levels.

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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by y2kse
Actually, if you drive your car for awhile with the Frankencar Intake installed, you can get familiar with where the whistling occurs. Then it's simply a matter of adjusting the accelerator (i.e., the butterfly valve) to accelerate just shy of the whistle or just ahead of the whistle. It takes a little practice, but you can get used to it and keep the whistling to a minimum.
I know exactly when it occurs. The problem is that it only happens at brisk acceleration between 2K-3K rpm. So, basically, I either have to drive like grandma (0-30 in 10 seconds) or like speed racer (WOT).

Is there any way to put something in front of the butterfly valve to disrupt the airflow do it doesn't whistle?

Tony
Old Apr 15, 2002 | 06:09 AM
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What About the Sound?

What's the franken intake sound like? Is it gonna give me like a throaty deep rumble or a richer sound or what? lemme know. and how hard is it to install? don't have much experience playing around w/ engines outside of a shop class about 7 years ago but if i get it i wanna put it in myself.
Old Apr 15, 2002 | 06:46 AM
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Re: What About the Sound?

Originally posted by Eenis
What's the franken intake sound like? Is it gonna give me like a throaty deep rumble or a richer sound or what? lemme know. and how hard is it to install? don't have much experience playing around w/ engines outside of a shop class about 7 years ago but if i get it i wanna put it in myself.
you can download WAVs of how the intake sounds from inside/outside.

http://www.frankencar.com/media.shtml

it sounds dope, but i think im still going to get berktunings intake.
Old Apr 15, 2002 | 07:37 AM
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why the berk intake? what made you choose that one over the stillen or the franken?
Old Apr 15, 2002 | 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by Eenis
why the berk intake? what made you choose that one over the stillen or the franken?
i dont have the berk intake yet, im going to order it soon, pretty much, its a great buy. its very affordable.

Old Apr 15, 2002 | 07:38 PM
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how hard is it to do an intake install? i'm guessing i can do it myself w/ some good directions (the ones franken's got seem like they're pretty good). anybody have problems on the actual install?
Old Apr 15, 2002 | 08:21 PM
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Eenis.The install for the Frankencar intake is patheticly simple.I did mine in 20 minutes and it was the first mod ive ever done on any car.its 4 10mm bolts,1 hose clamp and two plastic screws and the entire stock intake is out.Then 4 more bolts to remove the MAF and from there the hardest thing is getting the rubber peice onto the throttle body and onto the MAF assembly.(little chapstick took care of that).Its a great mod for the coin and it sounds sweet.To bad your not in CT or I would do it for ya.Well good luck and good choice.
Old Apr 15, 2002 | 10:41 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: intake

Originally posted by Tony Fernandes


Is there any way to put something in front of the butterfly valve to disrupt the airflow do it doesn't whistle?

Tony
Well, you could try this:

http://www.tornadoair.com/

or this:

http://www.electricsupercharger.com/



Seriously Tony, the only solution is to keep your OEM intake, drop in a K&N Panel Filter, and convert the air scoop to an OSCAI.
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Originally posted by Eenis
why the berk intake? what made you choose that one over the stillen or the franken?
It is the best bang for the buck mod out there. I proudly still use K&N fitlers, Steve swithced to using foam monsterflow filters after K&N raised prices. Make your own judgement on what's better. There is a sale going on for the month of April, free shipping and 20% off. here's the top secret link.

http://berktuning.com/sale.htm
Old Apr 16, 2002 | 04:50 AM
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Originally posted by cobymoby


It is the best bang for the buck mod out there. I proudly still use K&N fitlers, Steve swithced to using foam monsterflow filters after K&N raised prices. Make your own judgement on what's better. There is a sale going on for the month of April, free shipping and 20% off. here's the top secret link.

http://berktuning.com/sale.htm
i did not swich when kn raised prices. i switched because i feel that the monster flow filter is a better unit overall, and have you seen the prices on monsterflow's?? they are actually more expensive but i decided it was worth it and went for it. the pricing WAS NOT AN issue. the fact that the monster flows don't use a oil that will damage MAFS and have a veloicty stack was the major contributing reasons.

also on back to back dyoes by a member my intake yeilding 5.8hp more then a standard pop style intake, make your own judgement on what's better and lokos better.

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Old Apr 16, 2002 | 07:51 AM
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Re: Intakes?

Originally posted by LouE37
Well i was dead set on purchasing a Stillen Hi-Flow Intake until i checked out the Frankencar Intake. According to the Frankencar website and many forum member suggestions the Frankencar filter is way better sound and performance wise. Im just looking for some guidance on this cause I want to get the best intake for my max and the forum members always know best!
Right now i have the STILLEN hi-flow intake, and i love it, but i was doing some research and saw some .org members are doing combos..so i am going to get the FrankenCar ram section and use the stillen filter or the head piece.
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Yes...another question from Eenis. about get my status changed from lurker to whatever's next. alright.....so i'm lookin around and i keep seeing midpipes pop up. what is it, do i need it when i do the install, does it come w/ the intake and if not how much can i expect to spend?
Old Apr 16, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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hey y'all...i gots another question. before i throw it out tho...yeah i'm a chikensh*t. now that that's out the way...so i called my extended warranty folks and they said that my warranty wouldn't be voided if i do anything. but the dealership said if i put in the intake that it would void my entire warranty and that the intake could make my air sensor have a seizure and that it can't be recalibrated. is he making it sound worse than it is? i mean for real, what's the worst y'all have had happen. i'll be a little less than content if i get it and all kinda ill stuff starts happening.
Old Apr 16, 2002 | 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by Eenis
Yes...another question from Eenis. about get my status changed from lurker to whatever's next. alright.....so i'm lookin around and i keep seeing midpipes pop up. what is it, do i need it when i do the install, does it come w/ the intake and if not how much can i expect to spend?
the only intake that comes with a midpipe is the frankencar. www.frankencar.com
Old Apr 16, 2002 | 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88


the only intake that comes with a midpipe is the frankencar. www.frankencar.com
The only intake that comes with a sponge filter is a Frankencar.

The only two intakes that use K&N filters are Berk Tuning and Stillen.
Old Apr 16, 2002 | 05:42 PM
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Is there a war brewing here???

Actually Weapon R uses one also, and I thought I heard that Place Racing is going to use one as well??

--Ray
Old Apr 16, 2002 | 05:51 PM
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When I asked the dealer about the Stillen mods they said they will not void the warranty. The dealer do installs like intake, sway bars, and ypipe.

I have the Stillen intake and like it. It might not be as loud as others but the sound is noticeable. Don't have a ton of $$ to spend so not more intake mods for me. Gonna spend some $$ on a nice mountain bike and couple trips instead.

I installed the FSTB today and I haven't driven hard enough to notice a big difference. Will tell I guess. The RSB is sitting here and a friend with garage and facilities will help me install it.
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Originally posted by Eenis
hey y'all...i gots another question. before i throw it out tho...yeah i'm a chikensh*t. now that that's out the way...so i called my extended warranty folks and they said that my warranty wouldn't be voided if i do anything. but the dealership said if i put in the intake that it would void my entire warranty and that the intake could make my air sensor have a seizure and that it can't be recalibrated. is he making it sound worse than it is? i mean for real, what's the worst y'all have had happen. i'll be a little less than content if i get it and all kinda ill stuff starts happening.
Easy does it, Eenis! Anything that can be bolted on can be removed. If you install something and your engine blows up (which is extremely unlikely), just remove it and put on your stock stuff before you take your Maxima into your dealer . . . unless you've got a really cool dealer like I've got. Then you can go in with ALL your mods and they'll still honor the warranty!

I'm not the founding member of the Take Your Service Writer to Lunch Club for nothing!
Old Apr 16, 2002 | 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by Eenis
hey y'all...i gots another question. before i throw it out tho...yeah i'm a chikensh*t. now that that's out the way...so i called my extended warranty folks and they said that my warranty wouldn't be voided if i do anything. but the dealership said if i put in the intake that it would void my entire warranty and that the intake could make my air sensor have a seizure and that it can't be recalibrated. is he making it sound worse than it is? i mean for real, what's the worst y'all have had happen. i'll be a little less than content if i get it and all kinda ill stuff starts happening.
seizure? if anything like that was a possibility you'd have read about it by now. of all the guys here who put in intakes, and that's a lot, i think the only side-effect is a ses light... sometimes. and that goes away with a simple reset and relearn.
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To date I have not had a customer get a check engine light (CEL). But I must say that there is another intake manufacturer where a few have gotten CEL's (but I won't say who).
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Originally posted by cobymoby


The only intake that comes with a sponge filter is a Frankencar.

The only two intakes that use K&N filters are Berk Tuning and Stillen.
place racing uses them, weapon R does and so does HKS.
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Originally posted by Eenis
Yes...another question from Eenis. about get my status changed from lurker to whatever's next. alright.....so i'm lookin around and i keep seeing midpipes pop up. what is it, do i need it when i do the install, does it come w/ the intake and if not how much can i expect to spend?
Midpipe looks like an extension piece. Is this correct Steve?



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