who would most likely prevail??? WRX has the advantage of all whell drive while Max is 255hp??????????

 

God I hate these stupid questions!

 

Honestly, I have a stock 2k2 6sp, and I played with a wrx on the highway. Right now, all I can tell you is that they are mad fast with a lot of pickup and traction. I guess it depends on a lot of things. But stock for stock I'd bet on the WRX.
Sniff....

 

It would depend on the driver......close race though.

 

from a stop, WRX has the advantage of all wheel drive.
From a stop the Max has the advantage of NA engine and doesn't have turbo lag like the WRX but the WRX would make it up by the all wheel drive

so bascily its all about the driver

from a roll, its the max as some memebers here said already

 

The 2K2 Max would seem to have a better chance on the highway, where that higher curb weight is already in motion.

Had a chance to co-pilot in a WRX wagon, and with a high-rpm clutch drop, they scoot off the line in a big way.

Good thing is, most WRX drivers want to race, so tail-grab one on the road and report back here...

 

A 6spd Max would totally destroy a wrx on the highway! Even if the wrx is lightly modded it would still lose to a 6spd Max on the highway.

 

what do u mean by lightly modded?
intake and full exhaust and boost controller on the WRX goes a long way.....at 15psi with those mods, it makes as much power to the wheels as it did stock at the crank.

 

Very true, one of the minor advantages of having a stock turbo

 

what about auto max vs auto wrx? before someone flame me abt WRX is an manual car only, go to subaru.com & look under the option list for the wrx.

 

The auto WRX's do 0-60 in 6.7 (versus mid- to high-5's for the stick).

As far as highway power, probably about the same as the stick (the WRX auto is some form of adaptive electronic slushbox.)

 

I wonder if I put a WRX in the trunk of my max......if my trunk would still have room for my golf clubs???

 

only one way to find out

 

Uggghhhh....these things are kinda heavy.

 

Uggghhhh....these things are kinda heavy.

....well..nope dosent fit.

But I got a small european family in there though

 

I very briefly race one very early on in my car (02 6 speed, no mods) but I didn't really push my car as it was still under 1k miles. It was at a light of a double left merging into a single. It's a pretty large intersection but at most we're talking a distance of 100 to 200 feet. He was on the outside of the curve and by the time the lanes merged we were next to each other. So he definitely whopped me good.

The WRX definitely has some crazy speed from a stop. I feel like if I had pushed it I probably would have maintained an even pace with him. But the AWD along with the performance of the WRX makes me skeptical that I could compete.

I never raced one from a roll so only time will tell on that battle.

 

I stayed dead even with a WRX from 30 to 80 mph in my 4th Gen 5spd. Both cars had passengers, and the Scooby was said to have cargo, but I'm a heavy guy myself (270lb) so I think weight wise it was about even and the matchup was fair.

I think a 00-01 5th Gen 5spd would pull on a WRX on the highway. The WRX has slightly more power, and slightly less weight, but it also has a very inefficient AWD drivetrain that eats up a lot of power, and higher drag coefficient. And you can't beat the DE-K's top end power.

2k2 Maxima's should own a WRX from a roll on the highway hardcore. Even the auto's.

From a stop though, the WRX would take any Maxima assuming that the driver was willing to do a high-rpm drop clutch launch. They can cut 1.8s 60's like that vs. maybe 2.2-2.3s for a Maxima. But given that even with that launch they still "only" run low-14's @ low-90's in the 1/4 mile and the 2k2 Maxima 6spd also runs low-14's but in the high-90's tells you that the 2k2 Max is pulling hard on the Scooby up at higher speeds.

With a "normal" street launch dragging the clutch and giving the engine just enough revs to stay in the boost and not bog, WRX's are "only" high-14/low-15s cars, so they're not by any means "untouchable" for Max owners, especially from a roll

 

I beat a Manual WRX by 1/4 car from a 5-60 race. Look at my sig and notice how much hp i have. A 2k2 manual will smoke one from a roll.

 

Stock WRX's dyno in the high-160 range. That's right - around 28% drivetrain loss and that's with the manual WRX. Auto's lose even more, over 30%.

AWD is nice for launches but when you're already moving it costs you a lot of power.

 

I've ran modded WRXs on the street and on the freeway.
I don't know what mods they had, but at least a intake and exhaust.
On the street, they kick a$$!!! Get me by 1 1/2 to 2 car lengths in 2-3 blocks. On the freeway, different story. I was his a$$!!! He only lost me because he drove like a nut and cut off car like crazy! But they are still quick.

 

what about auto wrx, how hard can they launch?/60' time

 

Sheesh ... don't you just hate stupid questions?

 

This little mosquito of a car is a Bandit ! I would ove to have one as second acr. Stock VS Stock.... The WRX will launch like the Old Eagle Talon's and Eclipses did... But like those cars also... After the 1/8 marker is when the real NADS kick in ! I have yet to see too many STOCK WRX's.. unlike Maxx's where almost all I see are stock... I would not be afraid to go at it with one from a light....I KNOW I would spank him on the highway....But this car is a Back Slap to Honda !

 

saved me from tyoing thanks. but wait till that scooby has a downpipe and catback. it will scooby scoot.

-steve

 

just saw one last night....the driver was showing it off....mowing crazy on the uphill. I knew my auto will not catch it with my current mods, esp on a uphill turn.

 

I'm not even going to read this thread, because I have read it all before. Stock 2002 Maxima vs. stock 2002 WRX: The rex will kill the max off the line and probably kill it at most speeds under 90. Above 100, the max will take over.

However, you are comparing apples to oranges because of the huge price difference. This is going to **** some people off, but it has to be said. For the amount that you pay for a new maxima, you could have a 500 hp WRX. Period. End of discussion. A 500 hp WRX will rock a maxima from the line all the way up.

 

Your wrong a WRX isnt that much more than a SE 2k2. And for the 500 hp WRX thats a joke. Do you know what kinda work needs to been done to achieve this??? The transmission on these cars are weak.

Unless the WRX driver does a hard launch from a standstill a manual Maxima will be dead even to 60 then pull slightly above there.

 

If we're going to discuss like this, you can also get a pre-95 Talon, smack in a 20G and kick both the WRX and Maxima's ***.... Oh, but that also 'had to be said'

 

I'm not sure what the price tag is on a 2k2 max, but you'd be surprized how far $5000-8000 will go on a wrx. Bigger turbo, up-pipe, down-pipe, catback, unichip, manual boost control, scoop splitter, new intercooler hoses, etc... 300-400 hp can be attained pretty quick. 500 hp is just the most I've heard.

By the way, what exactly are the 2k2 max's times for 0-60, 100, and 120 anyway? I know the wrx 0-60 is 5.8 seconds. The wrx does have a really sh*tty high end stock, but that can be fixed.

 

It's funny you mention this, because I've been discussing the same thing with my friend (wrx owner). The Talon is a V6 awd turbo right? I want my next car to be awd so wrx and talon are at the top of the list.

By the way, I didn't post to start a flame war; I'm just an adrenaline junkie, not a maxim fanatic. It only says that next to my name cause ive posted a bunch.

 

I'll just wait up for the Evolution VII before considering a WRX. I find the WRX unsightly and kinda cramped for my Big ol Butt.

 

Whats the Evolution VII???

 

Mitisbushi Evo 7(VII)
awd turbo car that does 0-60 in 4.4 sec

 

Oh, the Evo, I hadn't heard it call the evolution before. 0-60 in 4.4...ooohhhhhhyyyyeeaaaahhhh!...I'm drooling. Any idea on the cost?

 

0-60 in 4.4 yeahright doesn't the US version comes with 250hp?!?!

Dan4614: wrx or talon for yr next car? talon is a really small coupe that is quite old & the wrx is a small sedan with backseat, u got a really big price range there!

 

to answer dan's question about the Talon TSi. No it is Not a Turbo V6, it is a Turbo 2.0L 4banger and they were made with either AWD or FWD.

 

No, the pre 95's are 4 bangers, not V6's.... Get the Talon, pre-95 because after 95, they're prone to crankwalk.... Also, it makes a fun project car and with some inexpensive mods you can hit high 13's, not too shabby for a $4k car

 

From a dead stop a WRX will take a Max (not by alot) if they both are stock. Mod wise it does not take much to crank the hp UPPPPPPP on a WRX. But heat will heat a turbo much more than a NA car. Highway shot is no contest as a Max will being same yum yum give me sum! I know from exp. under both conditions, with drivers of equal skill levels.
l8tr -- SS

 

There is a $30k version of the WRX coming out in STi trim. Should have 270+hp (and a big ugly wing).

 

And to make things worse... gold wheels!

Imagine how many Subaru would be selling if they kept the last-generation body style.