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Apr 23, 2002 | 08:32 PM
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yep.
100 shot =
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Apr 23, 2002 | 08:48 PM
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Re: TTTTttttsssssttttt!! TTTTttttsssssttttt!! WWWWwwwwaaaaaaa!!
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Originally posted by My 4DSC
yep.
100 shot =
Details please. What kit? FPRs? What's needed for a 100shot?

So compared to the SC you sold Kev, what do you think?
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Apr 23, 2002 | 09:02 PM
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What happened to the Turbo you was planning on putting out? Still in the works?

Dixit
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Apr 23, 2002 | 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by IceY2K1


Details please. What kit? FPRs? What's needed for a 100shot?

So compared to the SC you sold Kev, what do you think?
You'll feel the torque!
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Apr 24, 2002 | 12:08 AM
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Re: TTTTttttsssssttttt!! TTTTttttsssssttttt!! WWWWwwwwaaaaaaa!!
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Originally posted by My 4DSC
yep.
100 shot =
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Apr 26, 2002 | 07:44 AM
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Details please. What kit? FPRs? What's needed for a 100shot?

So compared to the SC you sold Kev, what do you think?
NOS #5124 kit, Paxton adjustable fuel pressure regulator, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, fuel pressure gauge, AFR gauge, bottle warmer, a bunch of jets for tuning (still in the process of tuning it, running WAAAY too rich right now).

I refuse to comment on any Stillen product as my bloodpressure may rise uncontrollably.
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Apr 26, 2002 | 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by BigDogJonx
What happened to the Turbo you was planning on putting out? Still in the works?

Dixit
still waiting on the manifold, when my friend comes home from AZ (MaxRev) he's going to finish it when he has access to my car (w/i the next few weeks)...then we finish the rest of the kit I/C piping...and so on.
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Apr 26, 2002 | 07:48 AM
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Apr 26, 2002 | 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by My 4DSC


NOS #5124 kit, Paxton adjustable fuel pressure regulator, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, fuel pressure gauge, AFR gauge, bottle warmer, a bunch of jets for tuning (still in the process of tuning it, running WAAAY too rich right now).

I refuse to comment on any Stillen product as my bloodpressure may rise uncontrollably.
Thanks. No reviews of $tealin please, just a comment on how a 100-shot fairs against a SC(no names necessary!) with stock boost?

I'm STRONGLY leaning towards a NOS, ZEX, NX kit, etc.. in the next 6-months. I'm just not knowledgeable enough yet to feel safe enough to use it. I'm not concerned about the install, just the A/F ratio, stuck solenoid, or anything else that can go wrong.

My current FANTASY(plan!) is to get a 55-shot ZEX kit or maybe NOS kit until the warranty wears off. Then I will upgrade the fuel pump(Walbro), fuel lines(handle higher pressure), add adjustable FPRs, AF/EGT/fuel pressure guage, etc... Once I know my fuel system is bullet-proof I will up to a 75-100 shot and have the fuel tuned on a dyno. If this is not enough power and I find the need for more than push button limited use power, I can follow Kevs' path with the SC. I figure the bullet-proof fuel system will be fine for the SC and smaller pulleys, so then I just need to concentrate on cooling(IC/WI) and traction(Quaiffe&ACT clutch).

Is there any way you can do a "How To" writeup on installing a NOS kit, fuel pump, and FPRs?

More 5th gens want the "juice" and I think with more visible sucessful users, people wouldn't fear the unknown when it comes to NO2.
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Apr 26, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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100 shot will destory an SC Max on stock boost... hands down.

From a stop, the SC Max (stock boost) should be able to hang around until the nitrous'ed Max gets traction. Then bye bye...
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Apr 26, 2002 | 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
100 shot will destory an SC Max on stock boost... hands down.

From a stop, the SC Max (stock boost) should be able to hang around until the nitrous'ed Max gets traction. Then bye bye...
How about my plan/FANTASY?

1)50-shot
2)Warranty expires
3)Upgrade fuel pump, fuel lines, FPRs, and all guages.
4)Work up to 100-shot.
5)If 100-shot is not enough follow your example, minus a few pulleys though.
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Apr 26, 2002 | 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by IceY2K1


How about my plan/FANTASY?

1)50-shot
2)Warranty expires
3)Upgrade fuel pump, fuel lines, FPRs, and all guages.
4)Work up to 100-shot.
5)If 100-shot is not enough follow your example, minus a few pulleys though.
50 shot is a start. I personally would do the fuel pump, FPR, nitrous and fuel pressure gauges with the 50 shot install.

If 100 is not enough, go up a jet.
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Apr 26, 2002 | 10:47 AM
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100 shot =
1st gear= ssssssspppppppppiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnn
2nd gear= ssssspppppppppiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnn
3rd gear= sssppppppppiiiiiinnnnnnn..........

100 shot will destroy a stock boost S/C, hands down...


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Apr 26, 2002 | 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


50 shot is a start. I personally would do the fuel pump, FPR, nitrous and fuel pressure gauges with the 50 shot install.

If 100 is not enough, go up a jet.
Warranty Kev!

I still need to be able to go back to stock easily. Just remove the NOS kit and reinstall the spare intake tube withOUT the nozzle hole.

I've pretty much heard/read that the stock fuel system can easily handle the 50-shot.

Do you disagree?
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Apr 26, 2002 | 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by IceY2K1


Warranty Kev!

I still need to be able to go back to stock easily. Just remove the NOS kit and reinstall the spare intake tube withOUT the nozzle hole.

I've pretty much heard/read that the stock fuel system can easily handle the 50-shot.

Do you disagree?
I had warranty in mind when I wrote that. You can hide everything except for the fuel pressure sender unit.

The nozzle hole is small so I doubt they'll notice unless they look for it.

Yes, the stock system can handle the 50 shot but I was thinking about the ease of "upgrading" if you had things in place.
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Apr 26, 2002 | 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


I had warranty in mind when I wrote that. You can hide everything except for the fuel pressure sender unit.

The nozzle hole is small so I doubt they'll notice unless they look for it.

Yes, the stock system can handle the 50 shot but I was thinking about the ease of "upgrading" if you had things in place.
Have you considered upgrading the fuel lines/fittings?

I've been told and read it's NOT a good idea to use FPRs and turn up the fuel pressure on stock fuel lines/fittings. However, some guys on here are running 85+ psi, so apparently the stock lines can handle it. But for how long?


I know how tempting/easily it would be to up the shot once I felt safe with the 50, but unless I "tuned" on a dyno and knew I could go higher it wouldn't be worth the risk without upgrading the COMPLETE fuel system(pump,lines, fittings, FPRs, adding guages).

Some of us aren't prepared for the worst as YOU always say.
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Apr 26, 2002 | 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by IceY2K1


Have you considered upgrading the fuel lines/fittings?

I've been told and read it's NOT a good idea to use FPRs and turn up the fuel pressure on stock fuel lines/fittings. However, some guys on here are running 85+ psi, so apparently the stock lines can handle it. But for how long?


I know how tempting/easily it would be to up the shot once I felt safe with the 50, but unless I "tuned" on a dyno and knew I could go higher it wouldn't be worth the risk without upgrading the COMPLETE fuel system(pump,lines, fittings, FPRs, adding guages).

Some of us aren't prepared for the worst as YOU always say.
Nope, I haven't considered upgrading the lines. I'm not sure what my fuel pressure is, but it should be up pretty high. I've been running with a 3.25 (and smaller) pulley(s) for over 10 months now... no signs of problems yet.

With the new fuel pump, you'll be able to handle 100 shot. Guys are even running rich on 100.
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Apr 26, 2002 | 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


Nope, I haven't considered upgrading the lines. I'm not sure what my fuel pressure is, but it should be up pretty high. I've been running with a 3.25 (and smaller) pulley(s) for over 10 months now... no signs of problems yet.

With the new fuel pump, you'll be able to handle 100 shot. Guys are even running rich on 100.
Thanks, Kev. Yeah, I'm betting upgrading the fuel lines is not that big a deal. I could easily hide the fuel pump, but the FPRs, guages, and the A/F, EGT sensors would be difficult. Then again, I only have to wait for 1-1/2yrs.. That's not a biggie, since I NEVER get to race around here.

Only once would I have loved to have a 100-shot or your mods, which was against a '01 SS out in the middle of BFE from 93-140+mph. Of course I would have still gotten smoked, but man that would have been a different look on his face. vs.

Go pick on some of those Camaro/Firebird guys would ya?
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Apr 26, 2002 | 12:47 PM
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The fuel system can handle the pressure, it's the injectors you have to worry about. Over 95psi, and they can lock open, not a good thing. The rest of the fuel lines don't have a problem.

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Apr 26, 2002 | 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by IceY2K1

Go pick on some of those Camaro/Firebird guys would ya?
I lost to a Z28, BMW Dinan 535 (SC'ed), and BMW Dinan M3 (SC'ed) when I was NA. If I can only race them again.
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Apr 26, 2002 | 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


I lost to a Z28, BMW Dinan 535 (SC'ed), and BMW Dinan M3 (SC'ed) when I was NA. If I can only race them again.
There are waaaaay to many Z28/Firebird ***** owners with big egos around here that are just begging for a SMACK DOWN!

Too bad I can't give them one.
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Apr 26, 2002 | 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by IceY2K1


There are waaaaay to many Z28/Firebird ***** owners with big egos around here that are just begging for a SMACK DOWN!

Too bad I can't give them one.
mtrai760 is selling his kit.
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Apr 26, 2002 | 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


mtrai760 is selling his kit.
Already sold, I thought.

Anyways, I don't think I would risk buying used on something like that. Just my overcautious nature.
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Apr 26, 2002 | 01:50 PM
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Thanks for the plug Kev, but it's already sold...

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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


mtrai760 is selling his kit.
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Apr 26, 2002 | 03:21 PM
  #25  
O, too late.

Here's suggestion... don't buy a used SC because the owner might not include everything (not talking about you Adam ... I'm referring to Delio's experience).
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Apr 26, 2002 | 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
O, too late.

Here's suggestion... don't buy a used SC because the owner might not include everything (not talking about you Adam ... I'm referring to Delio's experience).
That's why I got so excited when Paul(Avalon Racing) was selling one for like $2500. I knew it would have everything, but then I found out he was just advertising for a customer not selling it.

I'm too picky to buy something like a SC kit withOUT knowing who installed/uninstalled, what pulley was used, when was it purchased, why did you remove it, how many miles, etc...

Too many variables for something to go wrong. Thanks for the replies though Kev. I'm just picking your brain while the server is FLYING.
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Apr 26, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by IceY2K1


That's why I got so excited when Paul(Avalon Racing) was selling one for like $2500. I knew it would have everything, but then I found out he was just advertising for a customer not selling it.

I'm too picky to buy something like a SC kit withOUT knowing who installed/uninstalled, what pulley was used, when was it purchased, why did you remove it, how many miles, etc...

Too many variables for something to go wrong. Thanks for the replies though Kev. I'm just picking your brain while the server is FLYING.
I believe Keh mon bought the SC.

Yup, there are lots of variables for something to go wrong. To buy a new kit will also give you peace of mind because you know nothing should missing.

Constructive postwhoring?
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Apr 26, 2002 | 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE



Constructive postwhoring?


Just trying to keep awake at work, while FLYING on the new org server!
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Apr 26, 2002 | 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


I lost to a Z28, BMW Dinan 535 (SC'ed), and BMW Dinan M3 (SC'ed) when I was NA. If I can only race them again.
Would a NOS/Zex kit (50/75hp) be a good choice for a 02 model?
This looks very interesting and would work well with my y/b-pipe and exhaust plans.
thx -- SS
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Apr 26, 2002 | 08:44 PM
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Re: Re: Re: TTTTttttsssssttttt!! TTTTttttsssssttttt!! WWWWwwwwaaaaaaa!!
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Originally posted by My 4DSC


NOS #5124 kit, Paxton adjustable fuel pressure regulator, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, fuel pressure gauge, AFR gauge, bottle warmer, a bunch of jets for tuning (still in the process of tuning it, running WAAAY too rich right now).

I refuse to comment on any Stillen product as my bloodpressure may rise uncontrollably.

What did YOU do special to get your Walbro installed. Someone has to sticky a write-up on the Fuel Pump install.

Deac
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Apr 26, 2002 | 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by ssiperko

Would a NOS/Zex kit (50/75hp) be a good choice for a 02 model?
This looks very interesting and would work well with my y/b-pipe and exhaust plans.
thx -- SS
Yes, it would perform even better than a 3.0L. Just don't expect the dealer to be willing to do warranty service.

Check here for some useful info/tips:
http://members.***.net/matchou/NitrousBasicInfo.htm
http://z31.com/n2o.shtml
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Apr 26, 2002 | 11:25 PM
  #32  
50 shot
I doubt with a 50 shot an upgraded fuel pump would be needed. Most cars run super rich from the factory anyway. At most you should need is a rising rate FPR like the B&M. I was on the Zex website and they don't have an application listed for any Maxima. Anyone know if they're working on something?

Jesse
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Apr 27, 2002 | 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by Deac



What did YOU do special to get your Walbro installed. Someone has to sticky a write-up on the Fuel Pump install.

Deac
nothing! the thing plugs right in...
if it take you more than 5 mins once youre at the fuel pump, you got problems!
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Apr 27, 2002 | 09:14 AM
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Re: 50 shot
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Originally posted by 02MaximizedVQ
I doubt with a 50 shot an upgraded fuel pump would be needed. Most cars run super rich from the factory anyway. At most you should need is a rising rate FPR like the B&M. I was on the Zex website and they don't have an application listed for any Maxima. Anyone know if they're working on something?

Jesse
for a 50 shot you don't need anything extra.
75 shot or above, get a fuel pump and a universal Paxton adjustable fuel pressure regulator...$125 + about $60+ in fittings...
oh yea, you'll need to get the fuel pressure reg. "off fitting" too.
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Apr 27, 2002 | 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


I believe Keh mon bought the SC.

Yup, there are lots of variables for something to go wrong. To buy a new kit will also give you peace of mind because you know nothing should missing.

Constructive postwhoring?
Too bad a lot of specific nuts and bolts along with relocation brackets were missing.
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Apr 27, 2002 | 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by Keh mon


Too bad a lot of specific nuts and bolts along with relocation brackets were missing.
Did you get all the missing pieces?
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Apr 27, 2002 | 06:18 PM
  #37  
100shot=
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Apr 27, 2002 | 09:40 PM
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Re: Re: 50 shot
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Originally posted by My 4DSC


for a 50 shot you don't need anything extra.
75 shot or above, get a fuel pump and a universal Paxton adjustable fuel pressure regulator...$125 + about $60+ in fittings...
oh yea, you'll need to get the fuel pressure reg. "off fitting" too.
Adam,

Can you detail how/where you installed the FPR? What fittings, etc.. you needed? A pic is worth a thousand words if you could please.

I found the NOS #5124 kit for $499, is that the best price you've seen?

I plan on getting the blanket, purge kit, remote bottle opener, NOS pressure guage, FP guage, AF/EGT monitors, RPM window switch(MSD?). I don't think I need the bottle warmer here in the Arizona desert, do they make a CHILLER?

Anything else I need for a 55-70 shot? Thanks for the info!
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Apr 28, 2002 | 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


Did you get all the missing pieces?
Not yet... I need to email Avalon again. They have a new kit coming in, and we're going to compare and see which pieces I don't have.
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Apr 28, 2002 | 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by Keh mon


Not yet... I need to email Avalon again. They have a new kit coming in, and we're going to compare and see which pieces I don't have.
If you take some pics, I might be able to help you sort out what's missing.
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