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Old May 21, 2002 | 08:20 AM
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Time for a tranny cooler...but which one??

sup guys......I should be getting my VB Mod done soon from Mobiletek but first I want a tranny cooler. I'm probably getting the Hayden but I'm not sure of which model/part number to get. I know there is a specific model I should get if I'm getting Don's VB mod but I can't remember what it was.

Can anyone help me out with this?

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Old May 21, 2002 | 08:25 AM
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Old May 21, 2002 | 08:26 AM
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doesnt really matter, a tranny cooler is a tranny cooler, if it works it does the job just find, hayden is what most people use but whatever fits ur need just go 4 it, its gonna work just fine regardless what brand u go with. and just one thing kinda off the subject but there is something really weird about the auto trannys try this cruise at about 45mph, hit the overdrive off button, and ur rpm should climb to about 3k, slowly work up your speed around 3500 its rpms drops by about 300 and slowly start to climb again, but if u hit the o/d button again, it just jumps back up 300rpms and drives normal again, i test drove several 2K, and 2k1 maxs and they all did the same thing, just try it ull see, its weird????
Old May 21, 2002 | 08:27 AM
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hayden
do you read the entire post before replying to it?
I bet you're not too good with standardized testsare you?
Old May 21, 2002 | 08:36 AM
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Hayden 404 Tranny Cooler.
Old May 21, 2002 | 09:30 AM
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Re: Time for a tranny cooler...but which one??

Originally posted by acMAX
sup guys......I should be getting my VB Mod done soon from Mobiletek but first I want a tranny cooler. I'm probably getting the Hayden but I'm not sure of which model/part number to get. I know there is a specific model I should get if I'm getting Don's VB mod but I can't remember what it was.

Can anyone help me out with this?

Thanks!
Where are you located at? I'm trying to get a group deal going for the vd mob and uninstall\reinstall of the vb. I'm getting the Hayden tranny cooler from Mobiletek too, only $40. PM me if you're in the Houston area and want to get in on the deal.
Old May 21, 2002 | 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by Chimp Dj
Hayden 404 Tranny Cooler.
that's the reply i was looking for.....thank you chimpdj.

Hey Tanman...I live in NYC but would still like to get in on a group deal for the VB mod if you can succesfully set one up.

Please keep me posted! and thanks!
Old May 21, 2002 | 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by acMAX


that's the reply i was looking for.....thank you chimpdj.

Hey Tanman...I live in NYC but would still like to get in on a group deal for the VB mod if you can succesfully set one up.

Please keep me posted! and thanks!
Sorry, the deal is only for the mod and install. If you want to haggle the price of the mod alone, you can email them at the address on their website. Problem is, it's a business, so don't be surprised if they laugh at you
Old May 21, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by 2K1HoMax
doesnt really matter, a tranny cooler is a tranny cooler, if it works it does the job just find, hayden is what most people use but whatever fits ur need just go 4 it, its gonna work just fine regardless what brand u go with. and just one thing kinda off the subject but there is something really weird about the auto trannys try this cruise at about 45mph, hit the overdrive off button, and ur rpm should climb to about 3k, slowly work up your speed around 3500 its rpms drops by about 300 and slowly start to climb again, but if u hit the o/d button again, it just jumps back up 300rpms and drives normal again, i test drove several 2K, and 2k1 maxs and they all did the same thing, just try it ull see, its weird????
That could be the lock-up torque convertor unlocking woth O/D off in 3rd gear and relocking with O/D on.
Old May 21, 2002 | 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by acMAX


do you read the entire post before replying to it?
I bet you're not too good with standardized testsare you?


*smacks forhead*

my bad.

Old May 21, 2002 | 06:14 PM
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That could be the lock-up torque convertor unlocking woth O/D off in 3rd gear and relocking with O/D on.
dont know, ive never seen it happen on any auto car b4, this is the first time, i dont know why it would cause the rpms to drop like that but still it trips me out why it does that in the first place.
Old May 21, 2002 | 07:40 PM
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yup, 404 or 403
I have the 403 but haven't installed it yet
Old May 21, 2002 | 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by mattattax
yup, 404 or 403
I have the 403 but haven't installed it yet
Where did you get it from and how much? Don\Mobiletek doesn't carry them right now.
Old May 21, 2002 | 08:08 PM
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Different coolers available

I know most guys use the Hayden 403, but here's some other options to confuse you:

Bulkparts.com

I like the look of the stacked plate cooler #1677 Hayden Transaver Plus. Not a bad price too.
Old May 21, 2002 | 10:16 PM
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Whats the price on the Hayden Cooler... ? What website can I order it from ?
Old May 21, 2002 | 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Chimp Dj
Hayden 404 Tranny Cooler.
Is this a hard install? Is there any write up/ pictures for this??

For only around 30-40 dollars this seems like a really good idea.

thanks
Old May 21, 2002 | 10:28 PM
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Is this a hard install? Is there any write up/ pictures for this??

For only around 30-40 dollars this seems like a really good idea.

thanks
I found the write up.Thank you Will

https://maxima.org/shoptalk/sub_modi...er/index.shtml
Old May 22, 2002 | 12:41 AM
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Whats the price on the Hayden Cooler... ? What website can I order it from ?
they dont really cost much at all, u can find one for around 50 i belive, and were? u can get u from autozone (although i really dont recommend it, with all the low end stuff they carry) or u can just order 1 from online, of u can order it from summit which also has a site u can order from, they are located in Vegas if im not mistaken but they have very good customer service, never had any problems with them at all.
Old May 22, 2002 | 06:17 AM
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Originally posted by 2K1HoMax
doesnt really matter, a tranny cooler is a tranny cooler, if it works it does the job just find, hayden is what most people use but whatever fits ur need just go 4 it, its gonna work just fine regardless what brand u go with. and just one thing kinda off the subject but there is something really weird about the auto trannys try this cruise at about 45mph, hit the overdrive off button, and ur rpm should climb to about 3k, slowly work up your speed around 3500 its rpms drops by about 300 and slowly start to climb again, but if u hit the o/d button again, it just jumps back up 300rpms and drives normal again, i test drove several 2K, and 2k1 maxs and they all did the same thing, just try it ull see, its weird????
I'm seriously considering the B&M supercooler due to its temperature/viscosity based flow design. It keeps the fluid at the optimum temperature by bypassing it around the external cooler until the temp is sufficient to warrant cooling. Thus on cold days you won't be cooling already cold fluid. All others (I believe) do not feature this design unless you add an external thermometer or something.
Regarding your strange automagic stuff, that's typical torque converter lock up routines there. All of them do that so don't feel bad.... Feel bad because (LIKE ME) you have an autotragic and not a 5 or 6 speed!
Old May 22, 2002 | 06:02 PM
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I'm seriously considering the B&M supercooler due to its temperature/viscosity based flow design. It keeps the fluid at the optimum temperature by bypassing it around the external cooler until the temp is sufficient to warrant cooling. Thus on cold days you won't be cooling already cold fluid. All others (I believe) do not feature this design unless you add an external thermometer or something.
Regarding your strange automagic stuff, that's typical torque converter lock up routines there. All of them do that so don't feel bad.... Feel bad because (LIKE ME) you have an autotragic and not a 5 or 6 speed!
some of all just have, like u say the autotragic, but oh well. ill just have to get over it, i dont feel like doin a manual conv. anytime soon. just check out levelten.com they got some goodies to cure that damn auto nissan gave us. so does http://www.mobiletek.net/
but on the issue of cooling fluid on cold days, ya that can be a concern, but unlike most people i have the luxury of working at an auto shop so im gonna hookup a tranny cooler in a way that i can just disconnect it in the winter anf connect it after its over in a matter of minutes. just have to make the hose with ends that clip on and ill need to get a center piece for it to connect the two lines together. some mights say yea get the B&M, but im too ghetto i just like playing with cars so im just gonna do this thing my way, but if u live in a place thats gonna get really cold in the winter, yea just go for the B&M, like i said they all do the same job, its all on what u want...
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Originally posted by srbarnes4ever


I'm seriously considering the B&M supercooler due to its temperature/viscosity based flow design. It keeps the fluid at the optimum temperature by bypassing it around the external cooler until the temp is sufficient to warrant cooling. Thus on cold days you won't be cooling already cold fluid. All others (I believe) do not feature this design unless you add an external thermometer or something.
Regarding your strange automagic stuff, that's typical torque converter lock up routines there. All of them do that so don't feel bad.... Feel bad because (LIKE ME) you have an autotragic and not a 5 or 6 speed!
which GVW cooler are you looking for?

the cheapest b&m 19,000 gvw ive found is $44.95; do you know of cheaper?
Old May 23, 2002 | 05:44 AM
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Originally posted by lcf
which GVW cooler are you looking for?

the cheapest b&m 19,000 gvw ive found is $44.95; do you know of cheaper?
I bought my B&M tranny cooler from Jegs:

B&M transmission coolers at Jegs

45.99 for 19000 GVW
42.99 for 16000 GVW
Old May 23, 2002 | 06:46 AM
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I wouldn't say that all trans coolers are the same. Cheap ones will break/burst/leak at the seams/welds. Make sure you get one of the popular name brands(i.e. permacool/hayden/b&m/flexalite/tru-cool...).
The haydens look the same as the b&ms which look the same as imperials(dayco)which look the same as the flexalites which look the same as the generic ones that jcwhitney, summitracing and uhaul sell. Makes me wonder if they all role of the same assembly line and end up in different boxes(contradicts first sentence).
Fluid and fan thermostats are available and should be used if you are afraid of excessively high or low temp. The viscosity controlled b&m and trucool are interesting. They are cheaper than using fluid/fan thermostats. And should prevent excessively cold fluid in the winter. Cold fluid prevents moisture evaporation which could cause corrosion.
Autozone and Pepboys around here sell Hayden from $30-90.
Uhaul has a decent one for $46.
I use a dayco(not available anymore)stacked plate one. It is ~7x11x.75 inches. It looks identical to the hayden rapidcool/trucool(dana corp)/.... And, I like the way it looks(not that I can see it). Tube/fin are bland but are a little cheaper. Stacked plate ones are supposedly more efficient per cubic inch.
As for my recommendation, use any name brand one that you like.
For normal driving, any one with a GVW of 12000-15000 pounds is good.
For aggressive driving, any cooler with a GVW rating of 15000-20000lbs is plenty. The haydenauto and flex-a-lite websites have application guides if you want part numbers.
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i also noticed there are slightly different variations of the size of these coolers.

which is too big?

will this one be okay?

BNM70268
B&M SuperCooler
19,000 GVW
(11" x 7-1/2" x. 3/4")
$44.95

?????
Old May 23, 2002 | 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by lcf
i also noticed there are slightly different variations of the size of these coolers.

which is too big?

will this one be okay?

BNM70268
B&M SuperCooler
19,000 GVW
(11" x 7-1/2" x. 3/4")
$44.95

?????
I'm sure the 16K GVW will work ok too. Your car is only 3500 lbs (laden), plus whatever you and your passengers weigh (200X5), and even with a full trunk, I doubt you'll ever get near 16000 lbs. The bigger cooler looks nicer, but is probably overkill. Ounces count when you're drag racing... seriously.
Old May 23, 2002 | 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by Tanmann9
I'm sure the 16K GVW will work ok too. Your car is only 3500 lbs (laden), plus whatever you and your passengers weigh (200X5), and even with a full trunk, I doubt you'll ever get near 16000 lbs. The bigger cooler looks nicer, but is probably overkill. Ounces count when you're drag racing... seriously.
The GVW is just a pseudo way of comparing coolers. BTU/heat rejection is more important. This is one situation where bigger is better. Acceleration produces more heat than can be compared by using GVW. So does having more horsepower. Plus, the BMracing one that was listed(70268) is advertised with low pressure drop and temperature control(viscositythermostatthingy), and is a little smaller(easier to install) than the Hayden404 mentioned in the FAQ. Also, being painted black will hide it for those off us who prefer not to see it.
Transmission coolers should be sized by engine HP, fluid capacity, vehicle ATF cooling already present, driver abuse, and not just GVW.
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Originally posted by deadrx7conv
Plus, the BMracing one that was listed(70268) is advertised with low pressure drop and temperature control(viscositythermostatthingy), and is a little smaller(easier to install) than the Hayden404 mentioned in the FAQ.
thanks for your help!
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