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Old May 31, 2002 | 01:08 PM
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FYI tire manufacture

This thread is for information only.

There are 6 different tires manufacture that I can find to provide the size that we need for the original SE 17" wheels
Michelin Pilot A/S
Potenza RE92
Eagle RS-A
Pilot HXMXM4
Nitto NT-450 (only rate 3.15/5 on carreview.com)(cheapest too)
Falken Ziex S/TZ-01

But, I found this on dunlop website, www.dunlop.com
2000 - 2000 Nissan Maxima SE (opt)
Size: P 225/50R17 94V
Plus 0:
SP Sport 9000 DSST: 245/45ZR17 95W
-----------------------------------------------
2000 - 2000 Nissan Maxima SE (opt)
Size: P 225/50R17 94V
Plus 0:
SP Sport 5000: P245/45ZR17 95W
----------------------------------------------------------------------2000 - 2000 Nissan Maxima SE (opt)
Size: P 225/50R17 94V
Plus 0:
SP Sport 8000: P245/45ZR17
---------------------------------------------------------------------
2000 - 2000 Nissan Maxima SE (opt)
Size: P 225/50R17 94V
Plus 0:
SP Sport 9000: 245/45ZR17


any suggestion and I want to stick with the original size 225/50/17 only.
thank you

EU
Old May 31, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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Re: FYI tire manufacture

Originally posted by exunaja
There are only 6 different tires manufacture that I can find to provide the size that we need for the original SE 17" wheels
Michelin Pilot A/S
Potenza RE92
Eagle RS-A
Pilot HXMXM4
Nitto NT-450 (only rate 3.15/5 on carreview.com)(cheapest too)
Falken Ziex S/TZ-01

But, I found this on dunlop website, this thread is for information only.
2000 - 2000 Nissan Maxima SE (opt)
Size: P 225/50R17 94V
Plus 0:
SP Sport 9000 DSST: 245/45ZR17 95W
-----------------------------------------------
2000 - 2000 Nissan Maxima SE (opt)
Size: P 225/50R17 94V
Plus 0:
SP Sport 5000: P245/45ZR17 95W
----------------------------------------------------------------------2000 - 2000 Nissan Maxima SE (opt)
Size: P 225/50R17 94V
Plus 0:
SP Sport 8000: P245/45ZR17
---------------------------------------------------------------------
2000 - 2000 Nissan Maxima SE (opt)
Size: P 225/50R17 94V
Plus 0:
SP Sport 9000: 245/45ZR17


any suggestion and I want to stick with the original size 225/50/17 only.
thank you

EU


I think you should bold face the information only! y2kse should be here shortly asking where did you get this information. BTW I have heard some people say good things about the pilots!
Old May 31, 2002 | 01:51 PM
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I think you should bold face the information only! y2kse should be here shortly asking where did you get this information. BTW I have heard some people say good things about the pilots!
I know.. I will edit that .
I am waiting
Old May 31, 2002 | 01:53 PM
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hmmm....

I know the website provides this info, but it is interesting that when you look at the actual tire specs, 8.0" is the rim width shown...
Old May 31, 2002 | 02:47 PM
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Re: Re: FYI tire manufacture

Originally posted by CIRCO




I think you should bold face the information only! y2kse should be here shortly asking where did you get this information. BTW I have heard some people say good things about the pilots!
Is this for 225 50 17? I heard that that the manufacturer said you can substitiute a 245 45 17. My buddy has been running on his FOREVER with no problems!!!

KIDDING!!!
Old May 31, 2002 | 04:06 PM
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Re: hmmm....

Originally posted by jjs
I know the website provides this info, but it is interesting that when you look at the actual tire specs, 8.0" is the rim width shown...
Yup. You've got that right.

This is a wonderful find. It isn't the first time that information from a tire manufacturer was in error and it won't be the last. Both Nitto and Goodyear published specs at one time that indicated that the minimum rim width for some of their 235/45R17 tires was 7.0". It didn't take them long to correct their specifications once I brought the errors to their attention.

Now this would be really neat for somebody to take on besides me. After all, I don't want to have ALL the fun. Since you were the person to discover this, exunaja, why don't you call Dunlop next Monday. You can reach them toll-free at 1-800-548-4714. Tell them you want to discuss a safety issue regarding improper tire sizing on their Fitment Guide. That should escalate the issue to the correct department. Point out the information that you posted from the Fitment Guide for a 5th Gen Maxima, tell them that the OEM rims on a 5th Gen Maxima are only 7.0" wide, and then point them to their own tire specs. Finally, lean back and get ready to giggle . . . A LOT!

If you don't want to do it, let me know. I absolutely LOVE to make tire manufacturers squirm.

Old May 31, 2002 | 04:51 PM
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Re: Re: hmmm....

Originally posted by y2kse

Yup. You've got that right.

This is a wonderful find. It isn't the first time that information from a tire manufacturer was in error and it won't be the last. Both Nitto and Goodyear published specs at one time that indicated that the minimum rim width for some of their 235/45R17 tires was 7.0". It didn't take them long to correct their specifications once I brought the errors to their attention.

Now this would be really neat for somebody to take on besides me. After all, I don't want to have ALL the fun. Since you were the person to discover this, exunaja, why don't you call Dunlop next Monday. You can reach them toll-free at 1-800-548-4714. Tell them you want to discuss a safety issue regarding improper tire sizing on their Fitment Guide. That should escalate the issue to the correct department. Point out the information that you posted from the Fitment Guide for a 5th Gen Maxima, tell them that the OEM rims on a 5th Gen Maxima are only 7.0" wide, and then point them to their own tire specs. Finally, lean back and get ready to giggle . . . A LOT!

If you don't want to do it, let me know. I absolutely LOVE to make tire manufacturers squirm.

You are a sick individual. Hey do you like your Berk?
Old May 31, 2002 | 04:55 PM
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instead, why dont we call them and beg for the correct size? I mean, they are going to fix the page.. but at least while you have their attention, make our case.. there has to be almost a million maxs and i30/5s now that will use 225s.
Old May 31, 2002 | 04:59 PM
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Re: Re: Re: hmmm....

Originally posted by asu174


You are a sick individual. Hey do you like your Berk?
I LOVE my Berk. I just can't wait for it to destroy my MAF Sensor!

Old May 31, 2002 | 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by TimW
instead, why dont we call them and beg for the correct size? I mean, they are going to fix the page.. but at least while you have their attention, make our case.. there has to be almost a million maxs and i30/5s now that will use 225s.
I'll put in a plug for the 225s when I speak to Dunlop on Monday . . . unless, of course, exunaja decides he wants to call them instead.

Watcha say, exunaja. Do you want to call Dunlop or shall I?
Old May 31, 2002 | 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by y2kse

I'll put in a plug for the 225s when I speak to Dunlop on Monday . . . unless, of course, exunaja decides he wants to call them instead.

Watcha say, exunaja. Do you want to call Dunlop or shall I?
sorry for the delay...
I was out having fun .. well since you are the expert.. I'll let you handle the task and share the joy with all of us. I believe you have more fact and thought from past experience.
go ahead and make the call and I am eager to know.. and perhaps the rest of the forum member.

can't wait
Old May 31, 2002 | 09:41 PM
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Re: y2kse

Originally posted by TimW
instead, why dont we call them and beg for the correct size? I mean, they are going to fix the page.. but at least while you have their attention, make our case.. there has to be almost a million maxs and i30/5s now that will use 225s.
2nd that..
Old Jun 1, 2002 | 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by y2kse

I'll put in a plug for the 225s when I speak to Dunlop on Monday . . . unless, of course, exunaja decides he wants to call them instead.

Watcha say, exunaja. Do you want to call Dunlop or shall I?
so are you willing to do it?
Old Jun 1, 2002 | 08:15 PM
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Ok y2kse my turn!

Ask them if this info is INCORRECT that I had previous posted in another forum ( http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....5&pagenumber=2 ) that reads as follows.

Dealer Tire the supplier of BFGoodrich, Bridgestone, Continetal, Dunlop, Firestone, General Tire, Goodyear, Michelin, Pirelli, Toyo Tires, Uniroyal & Yokohama to Toyota dealers around the country and in process of setting up for Chevrolet and others I am sure!
1-800-933-2537 And I quote from page 27 of the Tire Guide "Approved rim contours for "p" type tires used on passenger cars and staion wagons" "17 nominal diameter - 45 series"
p205/45r17 - 7j, 7 1/2j, 8j
p225/45r17 - 7j, 7 1/2j, 8j, 8 1/2j
p235/45r17 - 7 1/2j, 8j, 8 1/2j, 9j
p245/45r17 - 7 1/2j, 8j, 8 1/2j, 9j
p255/45r17 - 8j, 8 1/2j, 9j, 9 1/2j
p305/45r17 - 9j, 10j, 11j
p315/45r17 - 10j, 11j, 12j

If you will notice Dunlop is one of the tire MANUFACTURES that is listed. You will also notice that this program is supported by Toyota Motor Corp USA and I will assure you that the lawyers made sure that everything in it is true and correct to avoid the possiblity of ANY lawsuits from faulty information.
BTW y2kse did you get the book yet?
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Old Jun 1, 2002 | 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by exunaja


so are you willing to do it?
Of course, exunaja. I'm always up for a good laugh.
Old Jun 1, 2002 | 09:48 PM
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Re: Ok y2kse my turn!

Originally posted by ssiperko
Ask them if this info is INCORRECT . . .
What you failed to mention, ssiperko, is that the Approved Rim Contours (AKA Rim Widths) you refer to come directly from Tire and Rim Association tables published in the 2002 Dealer Tire Guide. Obviously I received the guide . . . all 350 pages of it . . . and I sincerely want to thank you for sending it to me. The T&RA Charts are indispensible as is the graphic on how to measure rim width from the Rubber Manufacturers Association.

I scanned the charts and the graphic and e-mailed them to BigDogJonx. He said he'd host them on his web site and let me know once they were set up, but I haven't heard from him yet. If he hasn't responded by Monday, I'll send them to Kevin and ask him to host them. One way or the other, I'd like to see the information end up in the FAQs so that everyone has an opportunity to use the data when making tire/rim decisions.
Old Jun 2, 2002 | 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by y2kse

Of course, exunaja. I'm always up for a good laugh.
remember to share the "joy" and see wether they can give us couple sets of tires for free with 225/50/17 size!
Old Jun 2, 2002 | 07:17 AM
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exjuana.
Get the michiline.
Pricey, but when you first drive and corner with the new tires.
Old Jun 2, 2002 | 07:19 AM
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Originally posted by y2kse

What you failed to mention, ssiperko, is that the Approved Rim Contours (AKA Rim Widths) you refer to come directly from Tire and Rim Association tables .....
YESSSSSSSS you are correct sir!
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Old Jun 2, 2002 | 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by yongjun
exjuana.
Get the michiline.
Pricey, but when you first drive and corner with the new tires.
Point well taken. Even if we get more manufacturers to make tires in our OEM size of 225/50R17, I doubt we'll ever get a better performing tire than the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S. It's just too bad that the Michelins are so damned expensive.
Old Jun 2, 2002 | 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by yongjun
exjuana.
Get the michiline.
Pricey, but when you first drive and corner with the new tires.
point taken .. but I need some dough...
my budget is very limited.. how much do you pay for it and where do you get them tirerack or discounttire ?
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