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Old 06-01-2002 | 07:19 PM
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Auto Shifting Mod?

Does anyone know of a electronic chip module to change the shifting style of the Automatics (2K2). You can get these for Fords, Camaros, etc. but I haven't seen anything like it for the Max.
Basically it doesn't feather in the gear change. 1st to 2nd feels more like a shift kit - quicker speeds - more aggressive Rpm's right before falloff.
The cool thing about these is typically it's not an all of the time thing. You can plug the module in-line (at least with Mustang 5.0s) when you're at the track and take it out when you are driving to and from work. Anybody know about these? (I don't think they asre the same thing as the Power chips - they're more about fuel-air mixtures).

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Old 06-01-2002 | 07:38 PM
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Re: Auto Shifting Mod?

Originally posted by Shaydz
Does anyone know of a electronic chip module to change the shifting style of the Automatics (2K2). You can get these for Fords, Camaros, etc. but I haven't seen anything like it for the Max.
Basically it doesn't feather in the gear change. 1st to 2nd feels more like a shift kit - quicker speeds - more aggressive Rpm's right before falloff.
The cool thing about these is typically it's not an all of the time thing. You can plug the module in-line (at least with Mustang 5.0s) when you're at the track and take it out when you are driving to and from work. Anybody know about these? (I don't think they asre the same thing as the Power chips - they're more about fuel-air mixtures).

Thanks,

Shaydz

The closest thing I can think of would be a VB mod. Kevin (Y2Kevse) has had some pretty extensive work done on his auto, maybe he can shed some light on this.
Old 06-01-2002 | 07:38 PM
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Re: Auto Shifting Mod?

Originally posted by Shaydz
Does anyone know of a electronic chip module to change the shifting style of the Automatics (2K2). You can get these for Fords, Camaros, etc. but I haven't seen anything like it for the Max.
Basically it doesn't feather in the gear change. 1st to 2nd feels more like a shift kit - quicker speeds - more aggressive Rpm's right before falloff.
The cool thing about these is typically it's not an all of the time thing. You can plug the module in-line (at least with Mustang 5.0s) when you're at the track and take it out when you are driving to and from work. Anybody know about these? (I don't think they asre the same thing as the Power chips - they're more about fuel-air mixtures).

Thanks,

Shaydz
http://www.levelten.com that should help u out a bit, but it wont help out ut bank account...
Old 06-01-2002 | 07:40 PM
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just incase u cant find it, just click on online store and click on imports that will give u the prices
Old 06-01-2002 | 08:30 PM
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Old 06-01-2002 | 09:44 PM
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Re: Re: Auto Shifting Mod?

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http://www.levelten.com that should help u out a bit, but it wont help out ut bank account...
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Wow! I figured it would be expensive. Although 1K may not be bad if you want it bad enough. I miss the old days with shift kits.

You know the site doesn't specifically mention Nissan trannies or even Maxima by model. I can't believe these things are that generic.

Thanks for the due diligence. I appreciate it and thanks for everyone elses responses. I'm gonna dig a little. I'll let you know what I see.

Thanks again,

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Old 06-01-2002 | 10:02 PM
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Like Ive mentioned before, I blew 2 AOD trannies in a 5.0 with this kind of Valve Body Mod.... My personal opinion is stay away from it. It is a simple drilling of holes that increase flow , and if you ever have any kind of Tranny problems, Nissan will send you packing, when they inspect your valve body .
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Wow! I figured it would be expensive. Although 1K may not be bad if you want it bad enough. I miss the old days with shift kits.

You know the site doesn't specifically mention Nissan trannies or even Maxima by model. I can't believe these things are that generic.

Thanks for the due diligence. I appreciate it and thanks for everyone elses responses. I'm gonna dig a little. I'll let you know what I see.

Thanks again,

Shaydz
by the way they do make trannys just for the maxima, but its not a common order, if u decide to call talk to Pat, thats the owner. they will however build prototypes and they do work very well and could hold some serious power for an auto, im talkin about the 600hp neighborhood, but its all on u that shifttronic they got can be customized for the max, like i said just talk to pat they'll give u the info u need, good luck.
Old 06-01-2002 | 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by kloogy
Like Ive mentioned before, I blew 2 AOD trannies in a 5.0 with this kind of Valve Body Mod.... My personal opinion is stay away from it. It is a simple drilling of holes that increase flow , and if you ever have any kind of Tranny problems, Nissan will send you packing, when they inspect your valve body .
Dont know what they are talking about, but the valvebody Don In Texas does actually prolongs the life of our auto trannys.
Old 06-01-2002 | 10:13 PM
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Ouch!

Originally posted by kloogy
Like Ive mentioned before, I blew 2 AOD trannies in a 5.0 with this kind of Valve Body Mod.... My personal opinion is stay away from it. It is a simple drilling of holes that increase flow , and if you ever have any kind of Tranny problems, Nissan will send you packing, when they inspect your valve body .
Sorry about the 5.0's, kloogy. That had to hurt. Nothing like that 5.0 rush with a nice bark in 3rd. I've seen enough of your posts to see you're not a bull****er (somewhat caustic at times (with humor) - but not a bull***er). I'll take your advice to heart.
I've had 3 Maximas (90, 96, 2K2) and it's hard to separate the 4-door sedan from the beast it can be. It's a dual paradigm - and it's easy to get swept into the mod frenzy for speed and style. And yeah I've experienced Nissan's regard for the performance mod and it's affect on your "bumper-to-bumper" warranty.
I think I'll hold off and stay with the "safe" mods for a while (at least until I get hungry for 13's - NOS, etc. ).

Thanks again for the advice.

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Im hungry for NOS too, but I will wait till I hit the 36K and the warranty runs out. I just relate a first hand experience, that cost me alot of $$$.... Besides, as most ORG members that have it will tell you, the money that is costs, doesnt equal the performance gain you will get, if any. Im not out to just here my tires bark , in the 1-2 shift...
Old 06-01-2002 | 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by AznWontonboy
Dont know what they are talking about, but the valvebody Don In Texas does actually prolongs the life of our auto trannys.
im assuming this mod was done on his own car first?

how long ago was that?

how long til we consider the trannys life as "prolonged?"

Old 06-01-2002 | 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by kloogy
... Im not out to just here my tires bark , in the 1-2 shift...
Plus, noise is friction lost. It's gotta come from somewhere. Cool don't always get the low slips. Sorta OT, but I've got a buddy that's been working on a polished port, fuel injected, 5.0 in a '67 Stang - A h*ll of a lot of structure mods but he should have about 350+ at the wheels (before the NOS). He's auto with an in-line shift module.
Actually we're dropping the engine and tranny in in the morning (before church - Wife's gotta get the kids ready). I'm anxious to see how it does at Rockingham in a couple of weeks.

I'll steer clear of excessive perf mods for a while.
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Old 06-01-2002 | 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by AznWontonboy
Dont know what they are talking about, but the valvebody Don In Texas does actually prolongs the life of our auto trannys.
This is the biggest LOAD ive heard, how can you prove that it PROLONGS the life of it ? Thats like Steve saying that the Frankencar Prolongs the life of your MAF ! Guys, dont believe everything the aftermarket tells you. If its so good to the Auto, then I will buy it, if they will put in writing that they will cover my warranty to 36K , on the auto tranny, if i blow it !
Old 06-01-2002 | 10:40 PM
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The valvebody recalibration is the best thing you can do to the tranny (besides a complete rebuild with stronger parts).

If you're concerned about the warranty issue then this mod is not for you. However, most Nissan Techs will not know you had the vb recalibrated. I had my transmission control module replaced under warranty when the VB was on the car.
Old 06-01-2002 | 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by kloogy
This is the biggest LOAD ive heard, how can you prove that it PROLONGS the life of it ? ....
Kloogy,
he's probably referring to the premise that an Auto transmission while smoothing out the shift actually does more damage to your tranny by feathering than straight gear changing. This is true but I really don't think that this will "prolong" the life. More like it will cause excessive wear in other components not to mention the occaisional gear teeth you might can collect after a time (hmm...tooth fairy?).
Sorry..it's late. Anyway I don't think it's a good "prolonging mod".

just my 2/100s of a $1

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Old 06-01-2002 | 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
The valvebody recalibration is the best thing you can do to the tranny (besides a complete rebuild with stronger parts).

If you're concerned about the warranty issue then this mod is not for you. However, most Nissan Techs will not know you had the vb recalibrated. I had my transmission control module replaced under warranty when the VB was on the car.
Don't you ever sleep, Kev?
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Originally posted by kloogy
This is the biggest LOAD ive heard, how can you prove that it PROLONGS the life of it ? Thats like Steve saying that the Frankencar Prolongs the life of your MAF ! Guys, dont believe everything the aftermarket tells you. If its so good to the Auto, then I will buy it, if they will put in writing that they will cover my warranty to 36K , on the auto tranny, if i blow it !
I know I can't change your mind, but quicker shifts reduce slippage when shifting. The auto tranny in high hp cars will slip if the shifts lag. The clutches will go bye bye if the car is abused.
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Originally posted by Shaydz


Don't you ever sleep, Kev?
Not really.
Old 06-01-2002 | 10:54 PM
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Well Kev, when you blow 2 AOD's like I did, specifically after doing this same mod its hard to endorse it. That is the exact explanation B&M said about the benefits of the AOD valve body recalibration kit ! It didnt work out that way, and 3 other Mustang owners that I know also smoked their tranny ! I would hate to see what the results of this MOD will be later on. I hope Im wrong, because a tranny is a terrible thing to waste !
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Originally posted by kloogy
Well Kev, when you blow 2 AOD's like I did, specifically after doing this same mod its hard to endorse it. That is the exact explanation B&M said about the benefits of the AOD valve body recalibration kit ! It didnt work out that way, and 3 other Mustang owners that I know also smoked their tranny ! I would hate to see what the results of this MOD will be later on. I hope Im wrong, because a tranny is a terrible thing to waste !
Out of all the Maxima owners, I only know (remember) of one person that blew his tranny with Don's valvebody... skimax (supercharged).

I've had the VB since 15K(?) and the cars's been SC'ed since 43K. I currenly have close to 60K on the car and it still runs perfectly. I'm sure others have had theirs on longer than me. Maybe you'll change your mind if you read up on the remarks of others: http://forums.maxima.org/search.php?...der=descending

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Most people who blow their tranny's with shift-kits probably had tranny's that were already going. It's the typical B occured after A therefore B must have been caused by A fallacy. Usually people will add a bunch of power adders, say "oh ****, my tranny can't hold this power.." install a shift-kit, and create a lot of heat in the system and accelerate the wear of an already dying transmission. This is what happened to skimax. When i talked to him he said his transmission had already been going before his vb mod as a consequence of his SC and his driving habits. A tranny that is going to go is going to go vb mod or not. Just because a VB mod was installed soon before a blown tranny does not mean it is at fault. Also, you want to make sure that the install is done by someone who ABSOLUTELY knows what their doing. One pebble or misplaced spring can mean boom for your transmission.

Although the VB mod does reduce clutch slippage and therefore prolongs the life of your clutch bands (your tranny internals can take the added stress). It is highly recommended that you get some kind of transmission cooler, and change your ATF regularly.
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Originally posted by kloogy
Im hungry for NOS too, but I will wait till I hit the 36K and the warranty runs out. I just relate a first hand experience, that cost me alot of $$$.... Besides, as most ORG members that have it will tell you, the money that is costs, doesnt equal the performance gain you will get, if any. Im not out to just here my tires bark , in the 1-2 shift...
ummm, kloogy if u check the warranty papers closley ull see that the warranty is actually covered up to 5yrs/60000miles. thats the powertrain warranty like ur engine, trans,ect.... the 3yr/36000 warranty is the bumper-bumper warranty which covers most anything that isnt wear and tear. so the engine and trans has a 5yr/60K warranty on it. just to let u know. looks like u gotta wait another 2yrs but N2o can be removed without any traces of ever being there, but only if installed by some1 who knows what they r doin. the only thing left to worry about is how ur gonna explain the engine probelm that happened out of nowere to the dealer. thats if its not installed correctly. so good luck.
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