Yesterday on RT 80 West in NJ I ran into a CL-S driving like a mad man, weaving in and out of traffic like he owned the road. He pulls up next to me glace over, smile and guns it. At this moment I say to the wife "he wants to play". So I started to catch up but he was still pulling a little bit, I was like WTF I know those things are not that fast. I decided to put the car in 3 from D to catch him. Once I got up to him I knew it was time to punch it, so I looked over, smile, waved bye-bye and like a bat outer hell the VQ was gone. He did try to catch me but every time he shorten the gap I would put like 3-4 car length on him. After about 2-2 1/2 mile of F**king with him I decide to let him off the hook and shut down to cruising speed.

Before I forget an Escalade tried to get piece of the action but it was way to heavy. I now those Caddies have power but it's size and weight is its downfall.

 

Nice I luv going after CL-Ss and TL-Ses. They are like the arch enemy of the Maxima.

And ain't SUV drivers a hoot? An expedition tried to keep up with me on the highway. I rolled down my window and told him" better be careful, don't want no rolling over or nuthin" then I was gone. He still tried and almost lost it round a corner, too.

DW

 

Thats yet another kill for the maxima

the acura boys are probably on their way here now

Nice kill. btw your wife sounds pretty cool! most wives would bite ur head off if you raced w/ her in the car. cool!

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nice95GLE
[B]Yesterday on RT 80 West in NJ I ran into a CL-S driving like a mad man, weaving in and out of traffic like he owned the road. He pulls up

i beat a tls with my 96 se 5spd( modded )beat him 3 times in a row. My next car 99 mustang gt. p.s. all accords are slow

 

My wife has a fit whenever I drive fast - let alone hammer it after someone. Can't hear enough about Acura kills.

 

i dusted a CL-S this morning on 280 from sf to sj
hahahaha

 

I pimp slapped a TL-S , when I was stock. But Ive never found a CL-S that wasnt driven by a GEEZER.... Im looking everyday though !...and yes... Accords lick Maxx BOOTIE !

 

nice kill!!































incoming

 

Same here!! (Funny thing is, she never seemed to have a problem with it when we were dating! )

 

The stories on this board are really funny....always make me have a good laugh

 

Funny , but so very true...

 

Yeah, they are funny cause you honda boys never want to admit to them.

VQ <--Fear This

 

no russ

 

Yea!
I'm surprised Russ hasn't jumped on this yet.

 

3 or 4 cars sounds a bit much for a Sock Auto 2K2 to put on a CL-S.
I'm sorry but that's not happening from any speed.

 

I asked Russ not to argue this again. He's being nice about it, please don't give him any reasons to start arguing again about this topic...

 

Well I just don't know about that. You know the CL-S driver might have forgotten to disable TCS and stability control. And then you have to use sport shift just to get that downshift but then put it back into gated mode so that you can hold the gear long enough. Or maybe they were already going too fast for the downshift in both SS and gated mode even though there was still 20 mph of 2nd gear left.



Acura's have too much idiot proofing to protect an all-to-fragile tranny

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You look at the average driver in this country today and you wonder why they put so much idiot proofing in the cars. They are all idiots....

 

 

Yep, and this is why I won't ever drive another auto tranny car again so long as my right arm and left foot are still working.

My Accord V6 simply would not go down to 2nd gear above 55 mph even if you manually downshifted despite the fact that redline in 2nd was 73 mph. I got beat up on by so many stupid slow SUV's and trucks because of this. It'd just sit there and bog in 3rd way out of the powerband meanwhile some psycho in a POS 4-cyl Toyota truck is pulling on me

Maybe something like this is what happened to the CL-S driver

 

You might have something here....

3-4 cars is reasonable IF and ONLY IF they were going at speeds >90 mph and the CL-S was stuck in its insanely tall 4th gear. A Civic could pull a CL-S in 4th gear... I am not kidding. I used to have a CL-S and I beat an auto 2k2 SE at the track by less than a tenth of a second. The two cars are VERY VERY closely matched. 3-4 cars at any other speeds is complete BS and just ain't gonna happen.

 

There's a point where you can get stuck in 3rd gear in the CL-S as well even though there's still a good bit of room left in 2nd gear, so I think 3-4 cars could have happened from lower speeds too. There are plenty of gearing holes in the CL-S thanks to idiot proofing. My Accord V6 was no different:

Couldn't start a rolling race much above 55mph because you couldn't grab 2nd which goes up to 73. But if you started at 54 you could and would haul in 2nd up to 73.

Couldn't start a rolling race above 92 because you could no longer grab 3rd (if you weren't already in it) even though it would go up to 116 mph. If you started at 91 mph you could still grab it but otherwise you would be stuck in an extremely tall 4th OD gear.

Idiot proofing that prevents you from accidentally downshifting to 1st at 70 mph is good.

Idiot proofing that's so aggressive that it prevents you from operating your car within the ranges it can normally operate in without problems is just stupid.

It is seriously not cool when you can't get away from a road raging 4-cyl Toyota truck fool or some idiot in a V8 Mercury Mountaineer, or another moron in a 4-cyl Jeep Wrangler all because you can't grab 2nd gear at 55mph. That's just retarded. And yes, all of this did really happen to me.

 

Remember we live in a country where sudden acceleration almost put audi out of business. 5 years after, the government finally admitts it was stupid drivers.

DW

 

Not true...I raced a modded GS-T Eclipse last night on the highway and I walked away from him in 4th at about 125 and shut it down. He then does a ricer flyby. When racing I always use SS and never have problems...sure the tranny won't let you downshift to 3rd at 90, so I always choose to run from 80 where it will.

 

Sure ya did! You just keep on believing that, buddy! The CL-S is a complete dog in 4th gear. Sounds to me like you ran into a normally aspirated Eclipse with a GS-T badge. This is even more BS than the original post.

 

You can't win with this crowd can you? I post the truth and I get "you are talking BS". You know what?? I can give a rats a$$ in what a CL-S or a 2K2 Max can do, all I know is what happened on Sunday in NJ. If you acura kids can see by now you have a slow piece of s#*t car then I can't help ya. I try to keep things in an adult fashion but I'm called a lier "That really gets under my skin". But believe what you may I know what happened. If the CL-S was to kill me I would still post the truth because this is all in fun and it means nothing to win or lose as long as you play fair.

 

well as long as you're gonna be mature about it.....

No one said you lied. It is assumed in any race that both parties are pushing their cars as hard as they could. I'm simply stating that if you did pull 3-4 cars on a CL-S, then he either wasn't trying, was stuck in a bad gear or there's something wrong with his car. Your car is no faster than a CL-S, so I guess you have a slow piece of s#8t car too then, huh?

 

finally someone shows respect for a 4-cyl Toyota truck...

 

 

Golden please forgive me if misunderstood your reply.

but as for the CL-S I beat, you must remember this guy attacked me I did not go to him and say, "We must race". So if something was wrong with his car or he wasn't trying I don't really care, the fact is he loss.
And I believe I can make any statement about the Acuras that I want because my wife's cousin has a TL-S and a Legend and on many occasions I've beaten both cars. Also my next-door neighbor has a beautiful Blue TL-S, he has also fallen. My cousin rented a CL-S for the weekend a few week back and he quickly became a victim and finally before I got the Max I test-drove a TL-S and I found it slow. The TL-S and CL-S are beautiful cars but I don't believe they are faster than a Maxima. I am setting my statements on facts not by winning one race.

 

How could you find a TL-S slow if your Maxima pulls roughly the same 1/4 mile time with the acura at a higher trap speed?

 

just to clear it up for me your a 2k2 auot or 6sp and what mods do you have

 

I'm a fully stock auto right now.

Let me clear something up to. I don't have a supercar; I do get my a$$ handed to me also. Just last week I came across a modded out RX-7 that got me by 3 car and was still pulling. Also got shamed by a jet Black BMW 540i. I just haven't came across an Acura or Honda yet that was able to take me, but I'm sure my day will come.

 

I have no doubt that you can beat both a TL-S and a CL-S, but you're original post made it sound like you were easily pulling 3-4 cars on them. I don't want to be a mag racer, but stats simply don't lie. These two cars couldn't be any closer in performance. I would also be careful about what you call a "fact". So, it was 3-4 cars? It's not possible to estimate something like that accurately. So you know the exact distance between you, huh? That's a pretty neat trick. One thing that is a fact is a timeslip though. Sorry, but my "one" race on a real track is more factual than any street race ever could be. Like I said, I'm not saying this didn't happen, I'm just saying there were most likely extenuating circumstances and that the performance of these cars is nearly identical.

 

The Acura's pull a higher trap and only manage to equal the 2k2 Max auto's 1/4 mile time because of better gearing. The Maxima still has more torque, much less weight, and better overall acceleration.

 

Where's our favorite CL-S owner??? I cant believe he has sat on the sidelines this long. Did Tim or Kev put a shock collar on him, so he resists the urge to post in this thread?

 

Sure he could. If the idiot-proofed to no end Acura tranny wouldn't let the guy grab the next lower gear when he should have been able to.



There is a difference between mag numbers and real world performance.

By definition, an "estimate" is the approximate calculation of a quantity. That's why he said 3-4 cars, he was estimating. It's not like he said he pulled 3.428353 cars on him. Maybe it was only 2 cars, or maybe it was 5. Who knows. But from his "estimate" you know he pulled at least a couple of cars on that Acura.

I pulled about 1-2 cars on a GS-R from 60-90.
I pulled about 3-4 cars on a modded Probe GT 5spd from 30-90.
I pulled about 4-5 cars on an LS V8 from 30 up to 80 when he had a jump on me.
I pulled about 6-7 cars on a Solara V6 from 80-120 in 5th gear.

So what the hell are all these? They are estimates, and that's all anybody can do when they're trying to determine how much they beat someone by. WTF do you want? A laser range finder, or a radio linked GPS system on both vehicles?

You think a timeslip is all that matters and that one car shouldn't be able to pull on another just because the 1/4 mile times in mags are about the same? I have some news for you, buddy...

My Accord V6 in mags: 15.8-15.9
Mercury Mountaineer V8: 16.3

So if mag times are everything and they're the only thing that matters in a race then please explain to me why the hell a Mountaineer V8 that's a good half second slower (4-5 car lengths) in the 1/4 mile than my Accord V6 (which was running properly) was able to pull on me hard from 50 mph and pass me even though I had mods and my foot was flat on the floor and I was trying.

Was it because that Mountaineer V8 really runs low-15's, or is it because mag times don't mean squat on the street and are only an estimation of a car's performance and that there are many other factors involved. Hmmm?

 

maximas for life! i love tearing up all tl and cl type s that come my way. i have no hesitation whatsoever to decimate them.

-steve

 

What I find funny is that the 2k2 Maxima is just as quick with an outdated 4 speed auto. The CL/TL-S has a 5 speed auto which allows the first 2 gears to be shorter allowing quicker acceleration. I havent looked at the spec's on the Acura tranny, but Im sure it helps shave a few tenth's off acceleration numbers.

 

Lets end this once and for all.

I was travelling at 104 mph

- Which breaks down to 1.7 miles per min
(104mph /60mins)
- 1.7 miles comes to about 8976 feet
- The lenght of a Maxima is 191.5 in
- 3 car lenghts (if the car is a Maxima)= 574.5 in
- 574.5 in = 48 feet

There is alot more that I broke down to get the time it would take me to go 50 feet at 104 mph but I don't have all day here.

So at 104 mph am only jumping around 48-50 feet ahead of this guy.

So to make it short it will take me about .5 -.6 sec to scoot ahead of him.

It takes the brain about .2 sec to react, then the engine another sec or so to react by this time i'm gone.