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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 07:02 AM
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Overoiled Filters --->>>

Thought of a possible way to limit overoiling, for those of you who think it might be an issue with your set-up:

1. Oil the filter as usual (panel or cone, etc) per manufacturer's instructions.
2. Fire up leaf blower...put on idle setting (choke control) or just let run at lowest speed...(not sure but a good power hairdryer on 'no heat' might work too)
3. Place oiled filter over a cardboard box or on a rack of somekind to allow full airflow around the unit.
4. Use 2. above to mimic the airflow the filter would encounter in the car for a few minutes. Any overoiling should be noticeable as spray on the box or other surface.

Just a thought that occurred to me last night and I will be using this next time I clean my K&N drop in.
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 07:08 AM
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Better yet:

1)Oil filter.
2)Pad dry with paper towel (both sides).
3)Let sit for 2 - 3 hours so filter oil completely soaks in.
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 07:11 AM
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Better yet:

1)Oil filter.
2)Pad dry with paper towel (both sides).
3)Let sit for 2 - 3 hours so filter oil completely soaks in.
That will not necessarily allow for the removal of residual oil (pleat corners, the frame of the filter itself, etc.) Since most of the apparent issues have been with oil being 'blown' onto the MAF, why not get the 'blowing' done before it even gets back into the car?

Old Jun 7, 2002 | 07:27 AM
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OK, this may sound strange, but I wonder if air traveling at high velocity might damage the filter. Any foreign material in the air stream could punch microscopic holes in the filter.

I'd think you'd be better off hooking up a vacuum cleaner and sucking excess oil off the filter rather than blowing it off.

Just a thought.

PS: Double entendres referring to sucking and blowing are completely unintentional.
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 07:31 AM
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That is why...

Originally posted by y2kse
OK, this may sound strange, but I wonder if air traveling at high velocity might damage the filter. Any foreign material in the air stream could punch microscopic holes in the filter.

I'd think you'd be better off hooking up a vacuum cleaner and sucking excess oil off the filter rather than blowing it off.

Just a thought.

PS: Irrelevant allusions to sucking and blowing won't be necessary.
I said to keep the blower on idle speed...yes at fill tilt those can be wild and likely punch a hole through certain materials, but on partial choke it isn't even as much pressure as putting your hand outside the window on a highway, exactly the types of speeds the filter has to put up with on a daily basis anyway.

Hey, I said it was an idea, but for those out there not sure about how to properly oil a filter and not sure how to tell if there is excess, this is an option at least.
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That will not necessarily allow for the removal of residual oil (pleat corners, the frame of the filter itself, etc.) Since most of the apparent issues have been with oil being 'blown' onto the MAF, why not get the 'blowing' done before it even gets back into the car?
Sorry, I should have been more specific or **** as the case maybe. I take the paper towel and crease it [**** retentive chef](once then twice to be sure)[/**** retentive chef] into a point and run it along every pleat and all exposed pastic and metal. There is no standing oil when I am done. By using a blower, you may be blowing the standing oil into recessed corners.



OK, this may sound strange, but I wonder if air traveling at high velocity might damage the filter. Any foreign material in the air stream could punch microscopic holes in the filter.
That is what I would think too. Remember, you have oiled cotton gauze essentially hanging on to metal. My F150 had one for 40k and I noticed areas where the air suction had moved the guaze away from pleats.
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Originally posted by 2002 Maxima SE


That is what I would think too. Remember, you have oiled cotton gauze essentially hanging on to metal. My F150 had one for 40k and I noticed areas where the air suction had moved the guaze away from pleats.
Why run the risk of damaging the filter? After all, how much more difficult would it be to hook up a vacuum cleaner and suck than turn on a leaf blower and blow?

I'd suggest you suck rather than blow, jjs.
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Either way, you are putting undo stress on the filter. Remember, its not whether you suck or blow but getting the job done right. (had to add that)

I leave the sucking too...




























































my vacuum (perverts).
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 07:43 AM
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Ok, ok

so much for trying to present a perfectly viable idea. Not sure I realy want a shopvac or other vac of mine sucking up oil residue, coating the vac hose with that crap that will become dust magnets for future use, etc.

The whole point is to have people try possible remedies to remove the oil before it has a run-in with the MAF.

Suck, blow, pat....whatever....bottom line is people should be trying SOMETHING to identify/cure overoiling.
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Re: Ok, ok

Originally posted by jjs


Suck, blow, pat....whatever....bottom line is people should be trying SOMETHING to identify/cure overoiling.
I agree, jjs. That's one of the reasons I intend to replace my filter when it gets dirty, not just clean it.
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I've reoiled two cars after 20k with my method and have never had a problem with oil on the MAF.

I brought up before that the oil DOES NOT destroy your MAF. It is mearly a sensor. Should you get a CE light, you DO NOT need a new MAF. Simply use Brake/Choke cleaner and a Q-tip and you're done. This info has been going around the Ford boards for years. Do a search at:

www.explorerforum.com
www.f150online.com

You'll find the same info.
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I too had the idea with the leaf blower but what I am going to do is put my filter on the inlet side of the leaf blower so that air is drawn in through it instead of blown. I used the leaf blower to clean out my MAF when I over oiled a filter the first time. The oil screwed up the readings and the leaf blower physically damaged the MAF. Good thing Nissan replaced the unit under warrranty.
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 08:08 AM
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When and where....

Originally posted by 2002 Maxima SE
I've reoiled two cars after 20k with my method and have never had a problem with oil on the MAF.

I brought up before that the oil DOES NOT destroy your MAF. It is mearly a sensor. Should you get a CE light, you DO NOT need a new MAF. Simply use Brake/Choke cleaner and a Q-tip and you're done. This info has been going around the Ford boards for years. Do a search at:

www.explorerforum.com
www.f150online.com

You'll find the same info.
did anyone but YOU say 'destroy' and 'replace'??

I consider it much more straightforward to remove as much excess as possible, and at this point don't give a damn how it is done, than have to go through a MAF cleaning procedure that need not occur to start with.

Also, as for damaging filter elements with a blower, one bit of advice...learn to use the friggin thing!
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did anyone but YOU say 'destroy' and 'replace'??
Not in this thread, but I do here that quite a bit on this board. Many people seem to think that when the dealer says MAF is bad/destroyed and must be replaced they are out a few hundred bucks...but thats not the case. Ford does the same.

Didn't mean to pee-pee on your idea. I thought it was a good idea to work the oil into the filter quicker, but quick is not the best solution when it comes to this problem.
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 08:33 AM
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truce?

Originally posted by 2002 Maxima SE


Not in this thread, but I do here that quite a bit on this board. Many people seem to think that when the dealer says MAF is bad/destroyed and must be replaced they are out a few hundred bucks...but thats not the case. Ford does the same.

Didn't mean to pee-pee on your idea. I thought it was a good idea to work the oil into the filter quicker, but quick is not the best solution when it comes to this problem.
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Never surrender!

No problems here man, thats what discussion boards are for. Sharing and improving on ideas.
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Re: When and where....

Originally posted by jjs



Also, as for damaging filter elements with a blower, one bit of advice...learn to use the friggin thing!

What the hell kinda comment is that? Are you under some type of dilusional idea that I took the leaf blower and whipped the crap out of the MAF like some red headed step child? Catch a clue man.
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 09:48 AM
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Re: Re: When and where....

Originally posted by SR20DEN



What the hell kinda comment is that? Are you under some type of dilusional idea that I took the leaf blower and whipped the crap out of the MAF like some red headed step child? Catch a clue man.
Learn how to read a thread and to whom a specific comment is directed!!!!!!

Catch a clue on how to read!
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Re: Re: Re: When and where....

Originally posted by jjs


Learn how to read a thread and to whom a specific comment is directed!!!!!!

Catch a clue on how to read!
Am I going to have to whip your *** in this
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