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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 08:54 PM
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Hey does anyone know what kind of muffler will sound good on my max and will install really easily. I know I have to buy the B pipe from Stillen or somebody first. My friend has a lift at his house and so I want to save money and install it myself. Does anyone know of anything that is a direct bolt-on, without needing to cut any pipe or add hangers and hooks? I want it to go in easy and sound deep. I want a sound somewhere between a 4 cyl civic and a v8 mustang. I don't have a y pipe either. I'm on the GD for the GReddy EVO, but it seems that its on back order, so it'll be 2 months until they get in. I can't wait that long. By then, the summer will be just about over and I'll be back at school. I'm thinking bout calling them and cancelling my order.
Will the HKS with the b pipe added be a direct bolt on?

Thanks so much
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 10:27 PM
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I want a sound somewhere between a 4 cyl civic and a v8 mustang.
That's a pretty wide range there..... Y2KSE will be in here any minute talking about the MagnaFlow SS, which are pretty nice. I have a Focuz twin tip which is super deep and I love it.

As far as bolt ons go, I have no clue. I paid around $300 for the muffler, custom catback, and resonator installed.

Old Jun 7, 2002 | 10:30 PM
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That's a pretty wide range there..... Y2KSE will be in here any minute talking about the MagnaFlow SS, which are pretty nice. I have a Focuz twin tip which is super deep and I love it.

As far as bolt ons go, I have no clue. I paid around $300 for the muffler, custom catback, and resonator installed.

There are lots of excellent choices in aftermarket mufflers . . . Magnaflow, DynoMax, Flowmaster, Focuz, Powertech . . . the list goes on. Just don't get suckered into paying more than around $100.00 for a SS muffler.

On the other hand, if you want a prefabricated, bolt-on system and you're willing to spend $600.00 or so, there's always the Greddy Evo and the Cattman catback exhaust. But then you already know about the Greddy . . .
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 10:45 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Exhaust

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There are lots of excellent choices in aftermarket mufflers . . . Magnaflow, DynoMax, Flowmaster, Focuz, Powertech . . . the list goes on. Just don't get suckered into paying more than around $100.00 for a SS muffler.

On the other hand, if you want a prefabricated, bolt-on system and you're willing to spend $600.00 or so, there's always the Greddy Evo and the Cattman catback exhaust. But then you already know about the Greddy . . .
3 minutes from the time asu said you would soon show up, you actually did. Stop slacking, that is entirely way too long.
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 10:46 PM
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3 minutes from the time asu said you would soon show up, you actually did. Stop slacking, that is entirely way too long.
Oh, man, give me a break! I had to take a p!ss.
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 10:47 PM
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Re: Re: Exhaust

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That's a pretty wide range there..... Y2KSE will be in here any minute talking about the MagnaFlow SS, which are pretty nice. I have a Focuz twin tip which is super deep and I love it.

As far as bolt ons go, I have no clue. I paid around $300 for the muffler, custom catback, and resonator installed.

Was your's mandrel bent? If I had to get some muffler shop to put it on, it'd have to be like Midas or Tuffy, or something because we don't have any real import performance shops around here. And I'm pretty sure that Midas doesn't have mandrel bend capabilities. lol Everyone says mandrel is the way to go, so I want that. So, if I buy the muffler you got and a b pipe from Stillen, will those fit together?

Anyone know anyone on here with the HKS rear section and the b pipe??

Thanks your the input guys.
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 10:53 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Exhaust

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Was your's mandrel bent? If I had to get some muffler shop to put it on, it'd have to be like Midas or Tuffy, or something because we don't have any real import performance shops around here. And I'm pretty sure that Midas doesn't have mandrel bend capabilities. lol Everyone says mandrel is the way to go, so I want that. So, if I buy the muffler you got and a b pipe from Stillen, will those fit together?

Anyone know anyone on here with the HKS rear section and the b pipe??

Thanks your the input guys.
First, you don't need a mandrel bender to fabricate a mandrel-bent exhaust. All you need are mandrels. They can be cut to shape and welded together to form a complete catback system.

Second, I wasn't aware that Stillen makes a B-pipe for the 5th Gen Maxima, but perhaps I'm wrong about that. Cattman, however, does make a B-pipe.

Third, I don't know if a Cattman B-pipe will fit together properly with an HKS rear section. But it should fit together properly with a Cattman rear section.
Old Jun 8, 2002 | 02:46 PM
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First, you don't need a mandrel bender to fabricate a mandrel-bent exhaust. All you need are mandrels. They can be cut to shape and welded together to form a complete catback system.

Second, I wasn't aware that Stillen makes a B-pipe for the 5th Gen Maxima, but perhaps I'm wrong about that. Cattman, however, does make a B-pipe.

Third, I don't know if a Cattman B-pipe will fit together properly with an HKS rear section. But it should fit together properly with a Cattman rear section.
Does anyone know if the Cattman cat back has a good sound to it? I'm looking at the Stillen catalog and I see that they have a Stillen rear section too. Is that any good? Part#508140
Old Jun 8, 2002 | 03:39 PM
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Does anyone know if the Cattman cat back has a good sound to it? I'm looking at the Stillen catalog and I see that they have a Stillen rear section too. Is that any good? Part#508140
A catback is a catback from my understanding (other than the bends). It's just pipe. I could be wrong on that though.

I still don't know what type of bends were done on mine. They just slid it through this machine and it bent the bar. It's probably the crappy bent one, but I got my money's worth either way. I don't see a $400 difference worthwhile for a different type of bend.

I still can't believe Y2KSE replied to me within three minutes. That's just wrong..........
Old Jun 8, 2002 | 04:34 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Exhaust

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A catback is a catback from my understanding (other than the bends). It's just pipe. I could be wrong on that though.

I still don't know what type of bends were done on mine. They just slid it through this machine and it bent the bar. It's probably the crappy bent one, but I got my money's worth either way. I don't see a $400 difference worthwhile for a different type of bend.

I still can't believe Y2KSE replied to me within three minutes. That's just wrong..........
Mandrel-bent exhausts on NA cars are overkill, asu174. A 2.5" crush-bent exhaust system will work just fine. And it's less expensive than a mandrel-bent exhaust system. So why do I have a mandrel-bent exhaust system, you may ask? Well if people can spend $300.00 more than they need to on an aftermarket exhaust system to buy a name-brand catback, I can spend a paltry $75.00 more than I need to to have mandrel bends. Plus this way I get to gloat over the fact that their $600.00 exhaust system will not outperform my $300.00 exhaust system.
Old Jun 8, 2002 | 08:24 PM
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Even the Greddy catback exhaust has been dyned at 5 frigging hp on this site. Worth $600? I think not. Our mufflers haved been developed to optimize exhaust performance. Now a Y-pipe on the other hand has been dynoed at a whopping twelve hp by org. members. The only bad thing is that the Y-pipe will not make a noticeable sound. Hope this helps. Please note that I'm not trying to flame on exhaust set-ups, just trying to inform from what I've learned here on the org.
Old Jun 8, 2002 | 08:57 PM
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Does anyone have any pics of a Cattman exhuast on a 2k-2k1? I've been prondering whether or not I should get one, but I want keep as close to a stock look as possible w/not too much noise.
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Even the Greddy catback exhaust has been dyned at 5 frigging hp on this site. Worth $600? I think not. Our mufflers haved been developed to optimize exhaust performance. Now a Y-pipe on the other hand has been dynoed at a whopping twelve hp by org. members. The only bad thing is that the Y-pipe will not make a noticeable sound. Hope this helps. Please note that I'm not trying to flame on exhaust set-ups, just trying to inform from what I've learned here on the org.
I agree with everything you said except one thing. My Y-pipe definitely makes a noticeable sound. But perhaps that's because the rest of my exhaust system isn't completely stock. If it were, the Y-pipe might be as silent as you suggest.

The bottom line is that people are going to buy what they want to buy. The best we can do is point out to them that they don't NEED to spend $600.00 to acquire a high-performance catback exhaust system the equivalent of any name-brand catback on the market. They can have a custom catback fabricated at a reputable muffler shop for about 1/2 that amount and get all the benefits of the name-brand system except bragging rights. That will persuade some to investigate the alternatives. But for those who are dedicated to purchasing a Greddy or an HKS or a Stillen or a Cattman exhaust system, no amount of common sense will prevail upon them to do otherwise.
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Originally posted by krazyd
Does anyone have any pics of a Cattman exhuast on a 2k-2k1? I've been prondering whether or not I should get one, but I want keep as close to a stock look as possible w/not too much noise.
There's pics of the Cattman exhaust on their website.
Old Jun 9, 2002 | 05:44 AM
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Originally posted by y2kse

I agree with everything you said except one thing. My Y-pipe definitely makes a noticeable sound. But perhaps that's because the rest of my exhaust system isn't completely stock. If it were, the Y-pipe might be as silent as you suggest.

The bottom line is that people are going to buy what they want to buy. The best we can do is point out to them that they don't NEED to spend $600.00 to acquire a high-performance catback exhaust system the equivalent of any name-brand catback on the market. They can have a custom catback fabricated at a reputable muffler shop for about 1/2 that amount and get all the benefits of the name-brand system except bragging rights. That will persuade some to investigate the alternatives. But for those who are dedicated to purchasing a Greddy or an HKS or a Stillen or a Cattman exhaust system, no amount of common sense will prevail upon them to do otherwise.
On a completely stock setup, the Y-Pipe makes a slight "vroom" at 3500+ RPMs. But it is very slight. With muffler, etc, it makes everything else louder.
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On a completely stock setup, the Y-Pipe makes a slight "vroom" at 3500+ RPMs. But it is very slight. With muffler, etc, it makes everything else louder.
"Louder" is the operative word, all right . . .
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Originally posted by y2kse

"Louder" is the operative word, all right . . .
It was really more of a "swoosh" than a "vroom". I was fairly disappointed with the noise level because I wanted something mean-sounding and the Y-Pipe didnt do it for me....
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It was really more of a "swoosh" than a "vroom". I was fairly disappointed with the noise level because I wanted something mean-sounding and the Y-Pipe didnt do it for me....
Yup. But you fixed that, didn't you?
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Yup. But you fixed that, didn't you?
Yeah, now it sounds like a Harley......and I'm still waiting for my Frankencar to get here!
Old Jun 9, 2002 | 07:34 AM
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Yeah, now it sounds like a Harley......and I'm still waiting for my Frankencar to get here!
OH YEAH, MAN! A HARLEY THAT SUCKS! BRING IT ON !!!
Old Jun 9, 2002 | 08:54 AM
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There's pics of the Cattman exhaust on their website.
I know that already d00d, but they only have one pic of the exhaust not on the car, and one pic of the exhaust from underneath a Maxima. There are no pics of how the exhuast looks from different angles, therefore i'm asking whether or not anyone has other pictures on their own Maxima so I can see how far the tips stick out and how wide they are and so on...
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Originally posted by y2kse

OH YEAH, MAN! A HARLEY THAT SUCKS! BRING IT ON !!!
Huh?
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The only bad thing is that the Y-pipe will not make a noticeable sound. Hope this helps. Please note that I'm not trying to flame on exhaust set-ups, just trying to inform from what I've learned here on the org.
haha...first of all, i dont' know why making more hp and not adding noise is a bad thing.. it's a good thing...sleeper! hehe...

and second..y-pipe alone isn't loud..but y-pipe and catback exhaust combo..that's loud!
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Huh?
j/k. I'm talking about the sound that the Frankencar intake makes at WOT. You know, that monster sucking sound? . . .
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Originally posted by y2kse

j/k. I'm talking about the sound that the Frankencar intake makes at WOT. You know, that monster sucking sound? . . .
Dude, that took me like 3 hours to figure out what you meant. I thought you were trying to either say that my car sucks or that Harley's suck.

I'm with ya now......hahah
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Dude, that took me like 3 hours to figure out what you meant. I thought you were trying to either say that my car sucks or that Harley's suck.

I'm with ya now......hahah
Sorry, man. I didn't mean to throw you a curve ball!
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